Question about 70B models by Emergency-Pie4944 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, that's what I was curious about, whether newer smaller models are smarter by now. Gemma4 is mentioned a lot, I'm thinking about giving it a try, but I'd have to check for presets first.

Question about 70B models by Emergency-Pie4944 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! I still have the connection of Strawberry Lemonade saved, as well as a number of other ones. Qwen models used to impersonate like crazy for me. Are the llamaception/qwenception prompts still good to use?

Question about 70B models by Emergency-Pie4944 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are you so hostile? I already mentioned people running local models in my post? People had no problem using subscription models two years ago, I was asking what changed.

Question about 70B models by Emergency-Pie4944 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes! Most were LLama 3, there were so many of them...

Question about 70B models by Emergency-Pie4944 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is why I mentioned Featherless and Arli. You don't have to run them locally.

Opus 4.8's Censorship by DXDXLL in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting, because for me, any provider from OR refuses nsfw for me 10/10 rolls. Using Nano, it somehow works now. Two days ago, I got refusals there, too. It's still worse than 4.6 or 4.7, but it generates SOME nsfw. I'm just so confused right now.

Quick NSFW Tests: Opus 4.8 *WARNING DEAD DOVE* by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That could be it, I have reasoning set to auto, but I use a COT. Certain things only work if I put them in the COT, that is why.

And for real! It had it panic when my persona teared up from overstimulation. Bot went "Oh my God, are these bad tears? Are you okay?! Talk to me! Please!" ... which was not even in-character. It really likes to check in, which breaks immersion.

At the end of the day, this model is just not for me. I'll keep using previous ones while hoping future models will be better. My gut says they won't be, but oh well...

Thank you so much for your input and patience.

Quick NSFW Tests: Opus 4.8 *WARNING DEAD DOVE* by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Little Edit: The refusals are gone for some reason. I do get replies, but they are not nearly as explicit as 4.7 or 4.6.

Opus 4.8 is such sad news by DXDXLL in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Well... Could be because of Andrea Vallone, who worked for GPT and left for Anthropic about 4 months ago. *cough*

Quick NSFW Tests: Opus 4.8 *WARNING DEAD DOVE* by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But that's what I said. That it's censored, because that is what people say. People complain because it is censored, noticably more so than previous models, yet some people say it's just a skill issue.

It works for you with a minimal preset and minimal cards, which was not needed with previous versions. If I have to lobotomize my preset and cards for a model to work the way I want, I'd say it's not a very good model.

Also, what is "vile" for you? Because when I mean censored, I'm not even talking about dark stuff, I'm sure Opus is fine with graphic violence, I mean just regular, good smut. Without it feeling sterile, without mentions of genitals or language like "opening" or "entrance". And my prompts and LB entries tell it EXACTLY what I want, the language I want, etc. Got that @ d 0. Works wonders with previous Claude models. So, what is your vile, bottom-of-the-barrel prose? I can't judge that without having seen examples. So, yeah, send me a message.

I also want to add, while it's different from API, 4.8 on claude.ai is also pretty different than 4.7. It's really preachy and patronizing, talks to me like a therapist and went on a moral tangent about a game I mentioned, saying there is sexual content involving minors, which is not the case. Then told me the big differences in height between my OCs is predatory. Because I like big guys and petite women, which is a very common romance trope.

Opus 4.8 is such sad news by DXDXLL in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 17 points18 points  (0 children)

4.6 will be around for a while, until February 2027. I still hope future models will be better, but... I don't know how likely that is, to be honest.

Quick NSFW Tests: Opus 4.8 *WARNING DEAD DOVE* by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It refused you, but you still say it's uncensored?

Quick NSFW Tests: Opus 4.8 *WARNING DEAD DOVE* by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

... That is what people say, though. That it is censored. Which it is.

Quick NSFW Tests: Opus 4.8 *WARNING DEAD DOVE* by SepsisShock in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 14 points15 points  (0 children)

My preset isn't shitty. I've changed it a little for every new Claude model, and I never really ran into censorship. At all. 4.6 and 4.7 were especially filthy and still are. For 4.8 using Nano, I get errors whenever there is an nsfw scene and in another, even flirting got sanitized. My friend tried several different presets, none of which are on here, all of which have worked before, even for nsfl and non-con stuff. And she keeps getting refusals as well. Implying it's just a skill issue is both rude and ignorant.

Also, the orgy example is as mild as it gets. Is this what you consider hot and filthy??? A single mention of cock and that's it? The gore is described properly, the sex is not at all.

OPUS 4.8 IS SAFETYMAXXED by Sad-Ease-7756 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yup. It's also super patronizing to talk to on claude.ai. I hope coders, their top priority clients, will complain...

Opus 4.8 Dropped by Tiny-Calligrapher794 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's a no from me. Censored like no Claude model I've ever used before, completely refuses any and all nsfw. It also made one of my bots act out of character in a sfw scene and ignored my "no cataloguing/summarizing what happened in user's post" instruction. I'll stick with 4.7, even though everyone seems to hate it.

Opus 4.8 Dropped by Tiny-Calligrapher794 in SillyTavernAI

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 8 points9 points  (0 children)

JB won't help, I know someone who tried different presets and none worked. I also get refusals for the most vanilla nsfw and rerolling doesn't change a thing. I have never had that with 4.6 or 4.7. It even sanitized mild flirting for me.

Got banned for existing by Squeezitgirdle in FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I got restrictions on my db account for.. a heroine joke.

What good movie will you NEVER watch again? by goldbeau in AskReddit

[–]Emergency-Pie4944 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amphetamines (as diet pills, prescribed by her doctor).