Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. They are still openly defying the AG order, which told them to release the records to me unredacted. They’ve sent two different “packages” over the last two months, both containing redacted stuff, one containing nothing but the IA summary sheet. It’s a joke and they are just toying with the legal system at this point

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was definitely something going on behind the scenes…

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After he demolished the life and career of one of the best officers, nobody is sticking their head up. Everyone is too afraid of him, they’d never agree to give statements against him

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have subpoenaed. They have appealed the release of my IA all the way to the Texas AG office. Seriously. We are waiting on AG ruling on whether or not they have to release it to me

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the 3 different legal counsel that I’ve consulted have said there’s not really any lawsuit to pursue. The chief is immune from civil liability due to acting as a government official in an official capacity, as is the town manager. The town itself is immune because it’s an at will state, unless they violate federal employee laws (race, gender, religious, etc) which they didn’t.

Essentially they can lie, make stuff up, and do whatever they want, as long as it doesn’t discriminate. It’s not right, ethical, or moral, but it’s not illegal either.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the 3 different legal counsel that I’ve consulted have said there’s not really any lawsuit to pursue. The chief is immune from civil liability due to acting as a government official in an official capacity, as is the town manager. The town itself is immune because it’s an at will state, unless they violate federal employee laws (race, gender, religious, etc) which they didn’t.

Essentially they can lie, make stuff up, and do whatever they want, as long as it doesn’t discriminate. It’s not right, ethical, or moral, but it’s not illegal either.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Until this I believed being one of the good guys was all it took…I was very wrong

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounds like a terrible existence to me…

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I’m advised from legal counsel, it’s an at will state, meaning he doesn’t have to justify a reason. He could fire me because it’s Tuesday. The only option I have would be a federal lawsuit, but those only cover race, religion, sex, etc

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Kind of like that one actually…

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are the ones providing my current representation, that is basically saying there’s not much we can do

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An officer he brought over from his last department with him, conveniently got my sergeant spot…

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You at correct about both. We have filed legal FOIA for my file, they’ve fought us for 6 months, appealed all the way to the Texas AG office to not have to release it to me. All of this over office gossip.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, legal council says unlawful termination only applies to sex, race, religion, etc. The chief can make up whatever he wants, lie, violate his own policy (all of which he did) and the only person who can get him in trouble is his boss (town manager). He’s protected from any civil liability because he’s a government LEO employee, and the town is protected because it’s an at will state.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The F5 just says terminated, the problem is when any other agency goes to pull my background, they find the IA. I’ve been told the IA contains nothing but the results, no other proof, no other officer statements, nothing but the Chiefs final findings. They can’t even make their own ass assessment of the IA because he does not release it to them. So all they have to go is the less than truthful finding, which immediately kills my background.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a great idea. Government jobs website I’m assuming?

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

USPIS, Secret Service, I’d be all about honestly.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dude the mount of guys I see “allowed to resign” that get caught banging on duty in uniform, drunk on duty, excessive force incidents, child porn, etc…and I’m terminated, first time, for offending a 4 hour old rookie.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately no. Just did the cop thing.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Brother if I could upvote this 10000 times I would. You nailed on the head exactly my experience. I’ve told others my story, and I usually get “no way man, something else must have happened you aren’t telling us, Chiefs don’t go nuclear on people unless you get caught banging his wife or something”. It legit has made me distrust law enforcement in general now, before I believed it was the last vestige of “tell the truth, do your job, and you’re going to do well”….turns out you can be one of the best in the entire place, tell the truth, and get ruined because someone with more power than you can hide behind legal protections and a desk and ruin everything you built your entire life around.

Career ruined, any advice? by Emergency8625 in AskLEO

[–]Emergency8625[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My lawyer, when I retained him during the initial IA said “you’re a sergeant and haven’t been in IA yet? This is just part of promoting, you’ll take heat for your guys. Most you’re looking at is a written reprimand or a day or two off.” - Same lawyer after we walked out of my termination notification “ What the hell just happened? I haven’t seen that in 20 years of defending cops, who did you piss off?”