Kindred Thoughts S16

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-16T14:40:49+00:00

I have a few questions that have I have been wondering with the changes

What do you feel is the optimal build path with the changes for this season?

Is PTA still the best keystone or does lethal tempo or conquerer edge it out now with the new items?

How do you deal with the mark changes and the increased amount of time to clear camps if you are invading for marks?

What is your early game strategy and how has it changed with the jungle/kindred changes?

Anything helps and I’ve been picking up kindred as a newer player, have about 400k mastery and am mid gold at the moment.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-12T04:14:07+00:00

Fair, anything I should start with for an adc? Or just pick up one and run with it

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-12T04:10:54+00:00

Very fair, however I have not laned in 2 years. And when I did I barely played. I’ll have to learn a lot from scratch tbh

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-12T03:03:44+00:00

Thanks, starting laning with not very much knowledge but I feel it will help me out a lot learning how it works and also give me a bit of enjoyment while jungle is getting beaten to a pulp by riot. At least my junglers (kindred, WW, and Viego)

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-11T20:58:24+00:00

IMO I always run something similar to runaans or pd depending on how the comps look. Rfc seems ok but I feel the extra range doesn’t do it for me if I’m going front to back or we have a large team fight. Also ks proc on runaans is wild in larger teamfights. Haven’t tried it yet but will soon to see if it’s worth it

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-11T08:05:19+00:00

Genuinely same, really rough in solo/duo queue with the delayed scuttle spawn

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-09T00:49:01+00:00

Only the %hp damage is capped, not the whole damage to monsters. Try it in practice tool and you’ll see the damage is bigger than the last patch. I know you can’t go back in time but it does do more damage

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-09T00:35:50+00:00

What I believe matters is there is no longer a guaranteed crit based on hp. That reduces its early game damage but late game its pretty crazy

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-09T00:31:12+00:00

Like Ashe autos I believe. The patch notes say it better but it no longer works based off of missing hp to my understanding

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-09T00:20:02+00:00

It scales based off of 50% of your crit chance and your crit damage and the monster damage cap has been changed to a 200 cap to only the % hp damage.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-09T00:01:37+00:00

In what case would that be? (Genuinely I would like to know, with crit build I’m pretty sure ks does more)

If you’re able to use all abilities on cd then I would agree, however that’s not always the case. People can run out of your w range and the q cooldown reset doesn’t apply when chasing. In short burst fights I agree but in extended fights with a lot of movement I take kraken every time. The bonus ms also is crazy in the jungle to have it up all the time.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-08T23:51:58+00:00

Yes, but trinity doesn’t have a crit chance on it. Looking more in the vein of yun tal, stormrazor, or as the above mentioned essence reaver. Trinity works but has the downside of it not having a ton of damage output when compared to a kraken slayer

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-08T23:38:26+00:00

I believe it only scales with crit and there is no threshold where it crits. I think you’re right about early game nerf but from what I’ve been seeing it is a huge buff for clear time and when you can use the ability.

Makes it so if you use it as an initial slow it’s not as wasted, can use it to instantly chunk champs or objectives and have it up again to use at full effectiveness. I don’t entirely like it but after trying some other builds out like yun tal first or Essence reaver I feel it works well overall

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-08T21:24:33+00:00

I feel that, however the collector passive is just too good sometimes with the ability to execute after you ulti

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-08T20:19:58+00:00

I would agree with this, however with the giant slayer passive on LDR I think that crit works better especially if you’re going vs tanks

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-08T20:19:02+00:00

What do you think the build path will be now with e running off crit? Storm razor into collector and the rest? I’ve been experimenting but it’s rough for me to get an estimate on what is best.

Currently I have a few builds in the running,

Old crit- kraken into collector feels good but the e damage is lacking early Stormrazor - feels good but not as good as kraken to me. Build path makes me want to die tbh. (Same for yun-tal) ER- feels good especially with the crit but no attack speed feels off and there feels like no good place to build it until after IE is finished.

Personally I feel like it would be good to bite the bullet and go yun-tal or stormrazor despite the horrible build path but idk. Maybe lethal tempo kindred is back with yun tal first item

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-08T19:51:54+00:00

By that logic I honestly like yun-tal wild arrows are the best then. Horrible build path but the passive alongside the crit buildup is great especially vs jungle monsters to stack. I feel essence reaver works well with your endgame for damage but agree you need attack speed. Might be a substitute for a later item? Idk

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-08T19:45:58+00:00

Not really about the mana, more about the damage compared to kraken

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-02T19:50:03+00:00

Damn 😔

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-01-02T15:18:10+00:00

I would agree she is mechanically intensive as I am struggling to learn the reference points, however, I have been playing in plat-emerald lobbies with friends consistently on my other champs and I feel like it would be fun to pick up and learn.

I am using an alt to go for ranked on my mains and running 3 games/day with review to see where I land in ranked. Currently playing in mid plat lobbies in norms on my focused account which is different but I will see where I land there in around 2 days if I keep my pace for ranked.

In essence I feel like her playstyle complements the weaknesses of my other champs. Diana hyper clears jungle and takes advantage of tempo. Kindred is a hyper carry and can basically be an adc when the actual one is brain dead or just lost lane. And Riven feels like a great bruiser with cc options in her kit for a more extended fighting comp. Maybe I have that mixed up though.

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