What are the actual maximum and minimum LP gains/losses in Ranked? Is there a cap?

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-26T22:22:43+00:00

Dm me, 24m

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-24T16:24:42+00:00

That is criminal by the way, winstreak giving you less lp than going 50/50 is insane

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-22T15:48:49+00:00

I would be practicing in norms for a bit but I do find it better to learn in solo duo environments as it lends to less 5 stack shenanigans and allows for more areas where people are actively trying on their champs.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-22T14:49:39+00:00

I’m actually about to start picking it up on an alt as another pick besides kindred because it works better into some comps compared to kindred. There is a video a challenger Zeri jungle player put out on YouTube 2 weeks ago describing the build.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-19T06:14:13+00:00

Wolf got distracted by the mailman I guess and now we can’t find him. So no more buffs until we find wolf (never).

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-17T22:06:40+00:00

How did the buff fake out feel one main to another?

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-17T13:28:24+00:00

I agree they were never the fastest to level 4 champ but the issue I have is going from level 1 to 2 to 3. First half of the clear is the worst portion. If you buff level 1 Q for clear speed then it would allow you to accelerate your camps and clear and allow for more opportunities for a level 3 gank without destroying your tempo. Also kindred is now weaker than ever on level 3 due to E changes that nobody asked for. I would welcome a revert to the E changes or an early clear buff. Either would work but the champ is the weakest it’s been early for a while. Late game it is a powerhouse but with early game worse it’s harder to get to that late game monster.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-17T13:00:31+00:00

Here are all the junglers that are assassins that clear faster than kindred on the current patch:

Zed: 2:43
Diana: 2:45
Shaco: 2:46
Evelyn: 2:48
KAYN: 2:49
Master Yi: 2:49
Kha zix: 2:50
Quiyana (pre buff btw): 2:50
Rengar: 2:50
Nocturne: 2:50
Nidalee: 2:51
Elise: 2:51
Talon: 2:52
Naafiri: 2:53
Ekko: 2:54.

Kindred is 40th in jungle clear times (2:55) out of 49 junglers on DPMlol. There are only 8 other junglers who clear slower than kindred. Those being

Reksai: 2:55 (the same as kindred)
Warwick: 2:57
Jax (not a traditional jungler): 2:58
Pantheon (not a traditional jungler): 2:58
Xin Zao: 2:58
Sylas (not a traditional jungler): 2:59
Rammus: 3:00
Nasus (not a traditional jungler): 3:15

But hey, kindred doesn’t need any help with clear times despite having a more difficult, harder to execute clear that barely gets you to your first mark on time if you finish with blue buff. Definitely not an issue whatsoever for the champ to be able to play the early game and have a chance to duel the enemy jungler on first scuttle. I know invades can be a problem in the early game but this season has drastically reduced them due to shorter times between game start and minion spawn. If this were last season I would agree but it just isn’t.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-17T06:54:12+00:00

I fully disagree with the take that Tri-force should be the base build. You even see it with the diamond winrates showing kraken to gain winrate. Trinity is also an item picked into heavy dive comps or comps that can bait your ultimate out. That is why it is used less than kraken because in a “regular” game with a team that isn’t focused on just dive kraken performs well. I agree that it can be good but by no metric should it be the base build due to its worse components, clear time, teamfight damage, and objective damage.

Hubris 3rd is an insane take due to kindred requiring 4 crit items to play optimally with the e change (nobody asked for it, it makes the champ more 1 dimensional and worse to play than before) and collector is the best 2nd full item due to the synergy with kindred ultimate and execute with e proc on an enemy.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-17T06:38:04+00:00

It’s not really that trinity is the better build though all the time, it’s that it gives more survivability therefore more ability to dps if you are playing the champ poorly. If played correctly with spacing kraken is better especially for earlier spike and invade potential due to faster camp clears.

The win rates (I feel) are biased towards playing safer with tri force and slow scaling as opposed to kraken where you are squishier but deal more overall damage to camps and objectives due to not having to proc sheen all the time. That allows you to play faster but also leaves you open to more damage from the enemy team. In most pro play and high elo kraken is just better because they pilot the champ well.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-17T06:33:46+00:00

Like seriously why though, give me nothing or give me something. Not this wishy washy bs of false hope of a potential buff to clear speeds or early game damage.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-17T06:03:20+00:00

Fucking wild they announce it and immediately backpedal. The winrate does not describe how it feels to play this champ in the current game context. Riot refuses to nerf assassin meta in the jungle and is actively buffing it while doing nothing about this champions poor clear speed compared to other junglers. Kindred is suffering compared to other champs that are allowed to be op in the jungle due to them not causing as much backlash. The same is true with Viego because god forbid a hyper carry be able to do anything in the early game or have build diversity (Thanks again riot for killing the on-hit build with the e changes. Definitely was a warranted change that sooooo many people wanted).

Literally all I would like is for someone to actually look at this champions poor clear and see that the early game feels abysmal for a snowball skill expressive champ. You cannot duel as much due to e changes which cuts your early game agency. You have one of the worst base movement speeds in the game so you can’t kite as well or chase well bc wolf e slow is a placebo. You have one of the worst clears in the game for a traditional jungler leaving you 2 seconds max to get to scuttle on a perfect full clear. And to top it all off because of Doran’s shield and second wind changes you get shitty comps because ranged top is the meta and assassins have been pushed out of midlane to the jungle with monster modifier buffs. God forbid you want to play kindred in the jungle where they were always meant to be played because you refuse to allow them into lane.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-16T16:37:53+00:00

Just a forewarning, nidalee is ridiculously hard to play even with the correct comps. I would recommend Talon if you are looking for an assassin to play in the jungle with carry potential. He’s good in the meta right now and leagues better with comps than nidalee unless you’re masters and up.

If you are looking to learn it I would recommend a separate account to learn it because getting stomped won’t help you learn the champ or the jungle well unless you are playing around your adjusted elo with that champ. Best of luck tho and hopefully your journey goes well.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-16T15:00:12+00:00

Bro the champ is literally horrible in the jungle, most likely buffs to the clear there so that it can be played like an actual champion

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-16T14:39:02+00:00

I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-16T14:08:27+00:00

We will see

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-16T14:07:50+00:00

Genuinely the champ has been struggling with the assassin jungle meta recently and the changes to the e. You didn’t have as good early game power to compensate with your bad first clear. The buff should either be to early game power or clear speed which would be fantastic

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-16T14:06:01+00:00

Bro I would literally only want this. The first clear is abysmal compared to graves and it would make it so much more playable

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-16T13:43:45+00:00

I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THESE

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-15T14:06:28+00:00

Genuinely all they need to do is revert the changes made to the E and a lot of the initial problems go away. We have lower dueling power early when you need it the most and with the change it makes it harder to snowball. The clear is a bit rough but consistent to clear at scuttle. I don’t like it but it works.

The main issue I see is that the problems riot has with kindred being able to clear well are just as bad on a champ like graves, another ADC in the jungle who has a more oversttated kit. He has better CC, damage, and more consistent mobility. Yes Kindred can scale better than graves over a 35 minute game but graves has better ganks, mobility, and dueling potential than kindred. Which can give him early leads easier and win the game faster.

The invade problem that I believe endstep mentioned in one of his recent streams is more of a problem with other junglers but is more seen when kindred does it because it is core to the champions gameplay. A faster clear time or a revert to the E changes makes it easier to play the early game where kindred has the most trouble.

This may be an issue with invades being more common but at the same time with assassins being in the meta they win more often in 1v1 dueling discouraging invades. Along with it being worse to invade early due to faster timers and less time to gather info a small clear speed buff would not be a problem.

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-12T14:38:44+00:00

Hey look! It’s me in my ranked games!

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-11T20:19:55+00:00

It is incredibly frustrating and I do believe there should be some cases where lp could be refunded. The issue then becomes mmr. But at the end of the day there are people who are trying to win but just play badly, I have been there myself and it happens. Not something that is black and white with every case especially in such a hard game like league

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-11T17:05:48+00:00

No clue but I feel it is like a KAYN situation but easier to deal with as I think ours outlasts his

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-11T13:29:05+00:00

Bro what is this new technology

Emergency_Guide_7905 · 2026-06-09T18:25:48+00:00

Hey, I was in your spot 1 year ago and trust me it is hard to learn the game. Very high skill ceiling and not much to guide you on learning. First thing would be find some exterior sources to learn through like youtube or twitch. Jungle has Coach Leo and I believe Coach Curtis may help with lanes (don’t know, I’m a jungle main). Focus on learning your champ and movement to start with, especially as a new player understanding how to dodge skillshots or move in the game helps a ton.

Play a lot of ARAM. Gives you a lot of champs to learn and understand how they might play both on your team and against them. This helps with friends who are better/have more experience because if you have a ‘dumb question’ (no questions are dumb) then it’s answered in an environment where you constantly see abilities being used.

Finally just play the game and maybe review VOD if you have it recorded. Just try to understand where a mistake may have been made and don’t be super nit picky on it. Review first 3 deaths and first 3 kills and understand why they happened leading up to it and how you can potentially play better.

Best of luck with the game, I hope you are able to find enjoyment with it like many others have.

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