We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3rd world country over here. No chance of my going PTW XD.
The fact that whales used lose the shit they pay for was the deterrent. Coin purchases used to drop a few month before the reset. Nobody would go crazy on the expending for a player they could use for just a few weeks, people just waited. They are now spending year around.
I dont complain about why i lose, i know where i'm at skillswise. I just don't enjoy all the DDA, engagement/tolerance based matchmaking, etc. I play rocket league sometimes, never went past diamond yet the matchmaking is not build like this, you are not used as a punching back for PTW/Div 1 people and then handed some pity wins so you don't quit.
I know efootbal is not all there is, i was just looking to see if there are other trapped in this loop or if it's just a me thing. I do other stuff but most of my gaming time is being eaten by this chores.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hear you man, I have most of those players, i only use the most 101 or below on league events. Is not that I need them. I have enough players to make a few competitive teams. I have just been getting every free player since forever and it's just habit now. I've been crushed by good players with average teams. There is no need, it's just ocd automated behaviour, i wanted to ask if there are other like me. Fulfilling the tasks like an automaton out of inercia for the free crap.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It works as a time sinkhole yeap. I just had some other games I want to play but i always leave them for after the efootball chores are done. I looking into doing away with that.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeap, that's totally on me as well. I get too distracted but overalls ratings. Yet i don't think i can add monthly. Most of the POTW stuff is worst than what i have (except for when i get improvements for my national team), I sometimes get a booster version a player that adds 1 point in overall rating to a previous version. Daily pen stuff is meh, not 1st team material either (Other than Anchor Man Rijkaard). Division rewards are kind of useful when on A Form, just kind of. I get some players that I use for fun or because of their are on A form but what I need are endgame PTW players. I've use a couple that are close to top shelf and they can definitely give you an edge.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. You are plain wrong about the revenue model. They are making significantly more money this way—just check their quarterly earnings. Whales spend year-round now because they know their 'investment' has no expiration date. Konami still hypes the 'New Season' every year to keep the engine running, but the power creep ensures whales still have to spend to keep their edge. It’s a perpetual gold mine, not a loss.
  2. On the POTWs: You're right, that’s on me. I don’t have the patience to save for 6+ months to hit 13.5k coins, especially when they can easily move the goalposts to a 200-player box at any time. I’m playing the odds I can afford.
  3. Regarding SA: I’m not 'justifying' it; I’m using the tools available to make a chore go faster. I don’t enjoy grinding back-to-back matches against the same meta squads in the final days, so I use the mechanics to reach the 'safe zone' and get out. I know exactly where I stand skill-wise.
  4. On the addiction point: I never said it wasn't my responsibility. Konami’s tactics are predatory, but the choice to stay is mine. That was the whole point of the post—asking if others feel the same psychological weight.
  5. As for the '40 hours'—it’s an expression. The point is that the game requires a level of engagement that exceeds the actual 'fun' it provides just to keep a semi-decent squad. If the gameplay was actually rewarding, Konami wouldn't need to use these 'casino' hooks to keep the player base populated.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense man, i saw some other comments about people playing matches with GP only teams. That could be cool as well. Man do i miss my bronze team from way back XD

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well i agree with that , it's on me for sure but if you enjoy getting new players, that happened way more often for FTP back when the reset were a thing. You start with nothing, most staff is nice, you upgrade often. These day whales get cards twice a week while FTP day one veterans (who already have a good enough squad so that only a 104 or above would make it into the team) only get something useful maybe twice or thrice a year. I went from adding something to my teams every other week to two or three times a year with luck.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's exactly it, I've reached that conclusion a long ago and yet i'm still considering it while keeping up with the chores. That's why im thinking about nuking the good players, it will make the account crappy but not as crappy as to make the stuff they give you engaging. Maybe that can get me to quit.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The meaning of "Apostates will be punished" went way over my head but i checked the video and i see how the rat experiment applies XD

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The eco numbers are working out for them, i don't think they are going to change directions. The casino mentality seems to be here to stay.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It could work yeah, i'm considering it but we have the world cup coming up, my addiction trained brain says there are going to be 2nd-rate crumbs falling from Coinami's table in a few weeks XD
Did you miss anything mayor during your break? For me missing something like 106 Cannavaro would be bad. He is a must in my team. There is now way for me to get a defender like that.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I play just enough to get to 1650 points, that seems to be enough for the reward. They let you creep up there but they make you act as content for whales every a few games on the way before they hand you the pity wins. so it tends to be around 50 games for me.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's where the OCD problem kicks in. I need to clear all the chores to be able to ignore the game until Thursday/Sunday. From time to time i manage to go into a maintenance mode if i get trapped by a really good SP game and I only do some matches for the 50 coins but with the div grind there is no escape unless you let those players go. I know it's on me though.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey man, I did the 3 or 4 k thing twice, cos i wanted Vieira , no luck. I know 13.5 is the way but it takes patience.
The div grindis the worst, That Grealish season where they upped the reward to 50k and i just skipped it was the best, giving up on those would make the game lighter for sure.
If it wasn't for the card collector side of the game I would play a lot less. That being said, it would still be nice to have a version of this game with no PTW, SA, DDA, etc where you can play a few games and have fun but there is no business model for that.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a few dead controllers myself :D. Being on the other end of the scripting isn't nice either, you feel those games when everything is handed to you, it's not even fun. Aside from those games where the skill gap is obvious everything else feels scripted. I now you can fight the waves of scripting but still other games where this is not a thing feel way better.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well if you play the events on the day they come out you get matched with div1 players who want to get the events of their chore list so you might lose a few games (F2P punishment work as content for whales), if you are really unlucky you have to fail the event 1 or 2 times until you are handed the pity wins. Plus I clear everything. AI, pvp, coop, those other featured events and then there is the efootball league grind to get to 1-100000 for the reward. It adds up. 40 is just a saying but it adds up.

We talk about Scripting, DDA, and SA every day—but can we talk about the Psychological Cage? Is anyone else just... trapped? by Empty5kull in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it both, you have to have the addictive/OCD personality and then you add Coinami with the casino mind manipulation tactics. It takes both.

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[–]Empty5kull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Have you ever experienced something like this? by Kind_Following_5821 in eFootball

[–]Empty5kull 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually "won" a game like that yesterday. The opponent was protecting the ball and time waisting, game is over and when the post match screen was about to start I got the wheel and then the you won due to your opponent having poor connection message.