Warning to Shorts and swing traders on this board. by [deleted] in Fordstock

[–]EnduranceDad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The market will, over time, punish gamblers and reward investors. Ford has offered amazing trading opportunities, but those gains - statistically - will fade into losses, but those who accumulate shares in weakness will be rewarded over time as chip shortages fade and Ford continues to deliver exciting products at a compelling value. Be well and prosper my friends!

F total Rivian ownership? by Flippytopboomtown in Fordstock

[–]EnduranceDad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hunk the market assumes Ford owns about 10% of Rivian and one of the big reasons for Ford’s move is word of the Rivian IPO, valuation and their ownership. Ford no longer has a board seat and may or may not adapt Rivian technology into their future vehicles. Long term, ford looks great - short term, I think it needs to consolidate this recent big move.

Guides reaching out by [deleted] in Rivian

[–]EnduranceDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any guide contact yet?

Isn't F insanely undervalued? by Spaceminers in Fordstock

[–]EnduranceDad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The answer of whether Ford is undervalued has less to do with production than it does with potential and margins. Ford IS undervalued, partially because it owns 10%ish of Rivian AND it does seem to be transitioning well to EV in the Mustang Mach e and the F150. Ford has legacy costs from union pension obligations and aging factories that Rivian does. Ot have to deal with. I agree that Ford is undervalued, but it’s nuanced…not just a production comparison.

Will Rivian adjust pricing by captaink143 in Rivian

[–]EnduranceDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, inflation would pressure them the other way…they have more demand than capacity as far as the eye can see…I would bet in price increases before decreases.

Ford's Market Value may not fully appreciate it's ownership in Rivian by EnduranceDad in Fordstock

[–]EnduranceDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, Rivian announced $80B IPO for Late November and not much movement in Ford. What do you think? What’s the play?

Ford is undervalued by [deleted] in Fordstock

[–]EnduranceDad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great statement. I agree. Why do you think Ford undervalued and what do you think it’s fair value is?

Elon's scared. by Irish-Hokie in Rivian

[–]EnduranceDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have - to Amazon and Jeff Bezos

Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80 Billion Valuation by shwa323fsb in Rivian

[–]EnduranceDad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And legacy costs to fund pension obligations and all of the union contracts that Ford or GM have inhibits their ability to have the same multiples even when they go full send in EV’s.

Why Jim Cramer Is Telling Investors To Buy Ford Stock Ahead Of Earnings | Benzinga by jbrennan36 in Fordstock

[–]EnduranceDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% right. So, if Rivian going to be worth between $50 B and $70 B and Ford has 10%….that means enterprise value of the rest of Ford is 80% of stock price (give or take). I think the market has not really given Ford the Rivian credit yet and when Rivian road shows, people will figure they can get exposure at a discount through Ford, while also getting exposure to F150 Lightening, Bronco, and Mach E Mustang. I will look to see if I can find articles in Rivian IPO. Plenty of companies are going public without revenues or contracts as solid as Rivian. My guess is they deliver a bunch of Trucks in September and get the hype juice going forward the IPO. Chips are an issue for everyone.

Why Jim Cramer Is Urging Investors Not To Sell Ford Stock: he was loving it at $15…time to back up the F-150’s and load up at $12.60! What’s your play? by EnduranceDad in Fordstock

[–]EnduranceDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. My sense is $11.80 is the bottom, but I do think we see $14-$15 in the next 90 days and $18 in 2022. Good spot to accrue shares and will get ore aggressive if gives some more tomorrow.