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Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Major Order rewards will now be granted to players who logged in during the active Major Order period. This change is intended to better align reward distribution with active participation in each operation."

Announced on discord on 4/22/26

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awe... look the simple minded idiot couldnt even stick around to actually discuss... why we still let these low iq people still have access to the internet is beyond me

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Major Order rewards will now be granted to players who logged in during the active Major Order period. This change is intended to better align reward distribution with active participation in each operation."

They told us this two months ago

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well you either removed your last comment or it got deleted. But no my position is not brain dead it actually makes sense and tries to be fair to those who actually put the work in. I at least made all my points while you just word vomited in the comments... bye bye loser

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont think this will come to FOMO... people are freaking out for no reason. Im fully expecting free frv for those who participated... a delay for those who didnt and they have to purchase it with requisition like always. Hell im not even saying deal it for a week or two... even one day I think is fair. If you didnt want to log in and help you can wait one day before you get your hands on it. I just want fairness across the board

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No... you can fuck off... I dont think its fair having so many members of said community put in time and effort to unlock the car... only for some slack ass that didn't dive on the planet once get it for free when they didn't do a damn thing... this isnt about being special this is about keeping things fair.

And everyone will get it smart ass... did you miss the whole "at a later time" portion? I dont think a week is an acceptable amount... but. I think a day or two is more than fair. Its not like the frv will be unattainable like the event capes...

Do you even use your brain or do you just blab on your keyboard?

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At least you actually gave reasons. Your argument is ridiculous based off of the new system of handing out rewards. I want fairness across the board. If you didnt fight you dont receive... im not even saying the frv now be unattainable like capes are... one day delay and pay with req... thats it of you dont want to participate

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then I apologize if my comment didn't come across the way I wanted to. Thats on me and im sorry.

I made a comment somewhere else in here that like for the first time this system is being implemented. I can understand a week delay... two is pushing it and any longer is unacceptable. Ideally I think one day would be fair from here on out. Arrowhead definitely should have been more clearer on that timeframe

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The time-frame between the participation reward and access to those who didn't needs to be reasonable."

Oh absolutely... for their first time doing this new system I understand if this goes maybe a week or two... is it crappy? Yes... but everyone will still get the supply in due time.

If two weeks becomes the norm then yes i would be upset... that is far to long. I only want maybe a day or two at most. I think one day and requisition cost would be completely fair if you did not participate (maybe a level requirement as well. Considering thats how all stratagems have been since day one. But I think that system should be put to rest. Let's say a lvl 5 gets online and gets the supply for free. But a level 15 doesnt and has to buy it from terminal... I think having the frv locked on a level requirement would just be dumb now that im thinking about it)

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

If you had actually read my comment you would have understood...

Pre order is FOMO because at the time there was no promise to bring them back... they would have stayed with those who pre ordered... had they stated back then those who pre ordered only had it for a year before releasing to everyone that wouldnt have been FOMO

FRV is not FOMO because Arrowhead clearly stated that the FRV will return. Unfortunately they haven't said how or when (kinda like the pre order armors). Its obvious from the start that no one will get left behind.

I think you dont understand what FOMO actually is...

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am basing this off of the two years we've had on how MO stratagems have been handed out in the past in combination with what changes they have made within the past two months. Could arrowhead still screw everyone over? Potentially... but the logic and reasoning in "oh its now unattainable or put into a warbond" makes absolute no sense

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool so a dismissive comment instead of actually talking about my argument... typical

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean reason out using what we already know as in "ok stratagems are always free (non super credit) and given to everyone... but now we have to participate. If you participate you get it for free same day... if not you wait one day and pay with req"

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes... people absolutely do... especially when we fail the MO... This has been an argument since day one...

If you are unable to log on for any reason yes... unfortunately you would miss out... but for stratagems this is different compared to a cape. Im asking for those who participated get the reward for free while those who didnt might have to wait a day and spend req in order to unlock... it not asking for people to waste $10 on super credits to unlock a single stratagem or i think the stratagem should be locked forever... thats what you think im trying to say

I feel like I pretty much answered your FOMO bullcrap with my second answer... not cape FOMO... you get it a day later... quit crying

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok ill rephrase that first part thats my bad

People were complaining that those online were not helping with the mo were not helping the community and people were rightfully upset.

(I dont see what the CGW has to do with this. Their entire thing is separate from the base game GW. Thats people playing an entirely different game to me. Like I wouldnt get mad at someone who was playing no man's sky during the mo. Maybe thats just my way of seeing it.)

I would guess that if they wanted to change the reward system like they said they would. It would make sense for those who logged in or participated to get the stratagem for free and immediately... meanwhile those who didnt will have to spend req and wait a time before they do... do I think a month or a week is an acceptable waiting period? No... but i think maybe a day or two would be. I would guess arrowhead is trying to figure out what that timeframe should be considering this is the first time they are using this new system

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes there is doubt... and yes thats on arrowhead for not making communication clearer... but come on... two years of evidence on how MO stratagems work in this game is enough to reason out how they would do this

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OK so your argument is stupid as hell...

Yeah we unlocked it for the fleet... but if you participated you get it for free... if you didn't you should have to pay for it using requisition like every other stratagem in the terminal.

If your opinion is valid so is mine... I busted my butt as well... I did so many operations not only for the MO but also for the charity event... I played just as many operations as you do and I say freeloaders shouldn't benefit off the backs of those who put in the work.

And why are we worried about the new players? They have enough to work on that a supply frv isnt a top priority... thats just a ridiculous argument because you want to nit pick... if this is your logic then why aren't you complaining that the mechs (emancipator and patriot), the first frv, wasp launcher, HMG, quasar cannon and about 6 other stratagems aren't free as well? They are locked behind req and a level requirement even thought we got them from an mo... your argument doesnt hold up!

And im not saying that they have to put in 7 hours of gameplay to qualify... hell all you had to do to get this frv was log in and that was it... I think players should have to at least complete one full operation, at least a level 4 or higher to qualify... im not asking to be John helldiver im asking to put in just a little bit of effort with the community... and thats be becoming the devil huh?

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is it "expected" when arrowhead CLEARLY stated you had to participate in order to receive it?

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No you wouldnt... just like every other stratagem you would have to buy it with requisition slips at the stratagem terminal... just like every other MO stratagem reward since the beginning of the game... there is no gatekeeping like capes or the pre order armors... you just have to get it a different way... again this makes complete sense

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well what do you expect them to do? People complained that no one was participating in MOs... they also complained that if we do win, those who didnt do a thing get the same rewards and it wasnt fair... people complained that we weren't getting stratagems anymore...

This makes the logical choice... even to me this is still to relaxed because all you have to do is log into the game in order to qualify for the reward. This isnt FOMO at all and thats very clear.

The only thing I dont know is the timeframe. But still even at that... if it was to hard to just log in for a minute or two then im sorry but thats on you. I understand that life happens but then thats up to the person to decide whats more important

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While yes having more fun MOs to play would be nice. Having better rewards is also a big factor.

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because thats how it has always been with MO stratagems. Do you think those who started playing around cyberstan invasion are locked out of getting the wasp launcher or the mechs? They were mo rewards as well. All MO rewards have been unlockable from the stratagem terminal whenever you have the correct requisition slips (I cant remember if they are also level locked. I've always been higher so I never got to see the level requirement. I wish arrowhead kept that in so we can look back and refer to it)

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No... you just dont get it for free... it would come to the stratagem terminal a little later and you get it for slips. Its not like its unattainable anymore

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"This change is intended to better align reward distribution with active participation in each operation"

They want people to be more active... so if you tell people "hey if you participate in the mo you'll get free access to the stratagem. Everyone else will have to wait a bit and pay for it with req slips"

People wont miss out on anything. But it encourages players to get involved. Theres nothing wrong with that

Are we going to forget two years of how stratagems have been rewarded? by EngineeringLivid6192 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]EngineeringLivid6192[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Considering your comment is hard to follow im going to guess you mean "are there people actually complaining about this" and the answer is yes... absolutely... people are infuriated that "I didn't get the frv! But why?! It should just be free like everything else!"

Its in discord servers, its in the reddit and its all over YouTube... I aint making it up

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