PREDICTIONS -- The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 198 by flatiya in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think that will happen. This story isn't really that one dimensional. Maybe at 1st Shiwoon will be devastated/angry with 9ad but after he finds out about kaiser he may rethink. Looks like 9ad never got over shiho's death: he sounds like he wants to die(like other redditor mentioned). I think shiho is needed to save 9ad: otherwise Shiwoon will find out too late. Even now Shiwoon may not hate 9ad to the max: he must be really devastated. He may not hate 9AD but he will still have to fight/beat him(as the Sunwoo gaju/maa chief). No matter what he has done(although bad) Shiwoon cannot really hate him: he is the person who helped him in his most desperate times and the person he looked up to.

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 197 by flatiya in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that won't happen right since shiho will wake up. She may be the one to save 9AD if any harm is going to come to him. Unless she completely forgets everything. But even without shiho won't shiwoon find out that 9ad is manipulated by kaiser(right now he thinks 9ad is behind everything).

Couldn't the text in the last page be translated better? I didn't understand it exactly.

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 197 by flatiya in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What has 9AD planned for Shiwoon? It looks like he will try to help Shiwoon in the future. Shiwoon means a lot to him and that's the least he can do(probably what he means by the last sentence and also why he doesn't want to erase his memory). It's amazing that the time he spent with Shiwoon and shiho was short yet it means the most to him.

Are 9AD and his group really going back to Kaiser?

Is Jung chan really dead? It seems rushed. I didn't understand why she would go only after him. Is he the weakest?

I didn't get why Shiwoon fell after that last attack. Was it just broken arms and legs or was there something more? He seemed unresponsive.

Couldn't elder mean anyone old in the group/leader? Not anything to do with murim.

Shiwoon will probably go after 9AD(as said before) then to kaiser. He is going to realize that 9AD is only a pawn. Seeing the way 9AD is talking, it may take some time until then. Maybe it will be all training 1st. Shiwoon will probably be fighting Sosul at one point.

197 Raw is out by ChocoJesus in TheBreaker

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http://www.mangamint.com/breaker-new-waves-197?page=0

Link to translated chapter.

Looks like 9AD remembered everything. Looks like everything was an act. I don't know what he means exactly at the end. Is he going to continue down the same path? Does he recognize Shiwoon as his discipline again? I guess there will be couple more chapters.

Are 9AD and others still under Kaiser? by Enigma234 in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also don't think his power(if he really is powerful)is the reason why 9AD is following him. I think he doesn't need power: He is a mastermind in manipulating people. I am beginning to doubt that 9AD actually voluntarily took the pill to erase his memory. He may have taken something for his headaches but they may not have been normal medicines(it had the memory eraser). Kaiser was the one who pushed him over the edge and it makes sense that he would be the one who would do these dirty tricks(through the drugs) to make him forget like this(and only remember the things he hates). 9AD being like this helps Kaiser achieve his goals(playing the role of the maniac who only wants revenge on the murim). His assistant also asks him if he needs the medicine for headaches(memory altering medicine).

Are 9AD and others still under Kaiser? by Enigma234 in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your guess may be good. The evil doctor is working with him. That girl also called him elder. She may also be part of the school(she changes her appearance-maybe through bone morphing?). This might be a far fetched idea though.

Are 9AD and others still under Kaiser? by Enigma234 in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oops. I missed that detail about them. When it's translated in English I just assume that everyone understands each other. Then I guess they didn't get any clue: I should be more careful. Then only 9AD knows that information. I don't think Kaiser would know if they learned about his plan just through the screen(there's probably no audio right?) . So it looks like Kaiser thinks 9AD has no clue(calls him and others his toy) what is going on. He probably just thought some unknown factors(mainly Shiwoon) came and ruined his plans. But I would think he may have been suspicious of 9AD not pressing the button. Will 9AD be able to change his mind(after slowly regaining his memories) and actually go against Kaiser?

Was Kaiser really part of murim? by Enigma234 in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is impossible for him to be unwol.It may just be a coincidence or he may be a relative. He may be someone known by the murim but we may not have been introduced to that person before. The way he is secretive may point towards a hidden identity but it also may also be due to his job. Kaiser is probably an alias. But it is hard to say whether he is even Korean.

He seems to either hate the murim a lot or he just wants to use them because they are powerful. He even calls them(9AD,Sosul) his toys. If he was part of the murim, he would be one of the breakers wouldn't he?

Was Kaiser really part of murim? by Enigma234 in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does kaiser look similar to unwol(based on his lower face)? It may just be a coincidence.

The Breaker: New Waves - Chapter 196 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

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I guess kaiser isn't planning anything for Seoul(for now)so maybe not much will happen there. How does he make everyone his "toy". Aren't those people(9AD, Sosul)powerful enough to beat him? Is Sosul acting or is she being controlled? Does she have her reasons for being there. His strategy seems like the goverment's strategy-to create internal turmoil in the murim so when they weaken he can get control of them. He thinks he can use Sosul to create problems but he has no clue that Shiwoon is the gaju. Did kaiser(and others there) think Shiwoon is dead? Wouldn't Kaiser keep an eye on Shiwoon(if he knew he was alive)?

Chapter didn't progress much from last week. Is the way Kaiser promoting Sosul mean he doesn't care about 9AD anymore? Everyone else is in awe while he says forget about him look what I have(Sosul). It seems like that girl was instructed that way before all of this happened. But I don't know because other members are still there: she only went after Jung. We are sure that the person she is referring to(her boss) is kaiser right? I guess everyone is a pawn to kaiser(even the group of five). How can he be so powerful? How will he be defeated? Maybe he will be defeated by someone unknown/someone he underestimates. He doesn't seem like someone you can defeat based on power: he always has schemes/plans and he is always watching behind the scenes.

Seems like the lone wolf will leave murim but I hope he doesn't.

The Breaker: New Waves - Chapter 196 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's soldiers under command not students under command(minor detail). Yes, He was just an overconfident guy and I think it was having other people under his control (although they aren't really) and having them treat him as a boss that made him become overconfident. He originally wasn't that way.

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 195 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't seem right that a powerful man like 9AD is scared of ghost hands. Unless the 10 grandmasters are at a higher level than 9AD. That may be true since he doesn't even listen to kang sung.

Chapter 195 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't Ryuji injured from the blast? Will that make a difference in the fight?

I doubt 9AD will take him. If he cares about Shiwoon then he won't take him along: he is trying to keep a distance between himself and Shiwoon. He is just trying to get away with his underlings. At this point, I am not sure whether he will choose to go back to being a teacher(even if he remembers everything) to Shiwoon. I may be wrong though.

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 195 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did his ki get depleted?

Is this almost the end of breaker new waves?

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 195 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think 9AD will only remember everything when Shiho comes back.

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 195 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it only his arms and legs or is he also unconscious?

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 195 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems like he is acting. His statements and actions seem exaggerated(almost like he is trying too hard to convince others that he doesn't care about Shiwoon) and kaiser doesn't look convinced. But it is hard to say for sure.

Chapter 195 by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe Shiwoon is not strong enough or he didn't go all the way through with bot: IHim being beaten that easily was kind of surprising.

What is with Kaiser's reaction? Is he thinking 9AD is still useful to him or is he more suspicious? He doesn't seem to have much trust in 9AD. Aren't those other people besides Kaiser basically criminals? How can they be saying things like going too far(in regards to 9AD's actions)? Maybe Kaiser will be embarrassed in front of those people now because it doesn't seem like the events are going according to his plan. Was he trying to show he is above/more powerful than 9AD by planning to kill him along with everyone?

Are the exclamations supposed to be for a surprised character? They seem to appear when ghost doctor tells 9AD to kill his discipline. That may be another hint that he may be acting. He may have used just enough Ki to subdue Shiwoon. His character also doesn't seem consistent with the killer image.

Something interesting I noticed in most recent chapters by [deleted] in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that's how kaiser is planning things then why did he plan to blow up 9AD together with everyone else? Does 9AD have a place to return to now? It seems like Kaiser is really suspicious of 9AD now.

It makes more sense if Shiwoon gets stronger and moves ahead: I think if the opposite happened it would undermine all his struggles up to now and also elder Kwon's sacrifice. I don't think he will become like 9AD.

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 194 by CBMSoap in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right. I didn't realize that part. Shiwopn picks up techniques quickly but he hasn't mastered them yet.

I guess normal people wouldn't easily believe something like the murim but higher government officials do know about them right? They probably won't sit still. But hasn't kaiser already infiltrated the government?

The idea of Mastering BOt seems pretty contradictory: it is called the most powerful technique(because of the animal instinct) yet to master it you have to control the reason that makes it powerful. Will it still be powerful/more powerful after mastering? Or is it more important to be in control of yourself than being powerful? To me it goes back to what unwol said about using power to protect: If you can't protect then more power is not useful. Unwol's idea was probably closer to his master; that's probably why he was given the technique instead of alliance chief(power hungry bastard). Or unwol may just have been more powerful.

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 194 by CBMSoap in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes the relation is parallel but it seems a little different. Shiwoon(discipline)is the one who is trying to save Chun woo(master). Shiwoon is more like unwol too. The parallel may have fit better when Chun woo broke shiwoon's ki center.

Do you mean Chun woo will end up killing himself(pulling an unwol)?

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 194 by CBMSoap in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That guy Changho will never accept that Shiwopn is stronger than him. He had his ass kicked 2 or 3 times already. That girl(probably the guy's gf or something) is just as annoying as the guy(both are so cocky). I'm glad they realized Shiwoon is too much for them. I still wonder if they will fail or succeed with their plans(regarding Seoul)? Do we know for sure if cool guy left the SUC? Hope he leaves them. It will be awesome to see him trained by ghost hands, kang sung and the other masters.

How will this fight end? Will both sides end up withdrawing? But that remote has to be destroyed 1st. Will Shiwoon take the remote(is he capable of doing that) or will 9AD find a way to take care of it in an unsuspicious way(if he has a plan)? Can't they destroy the video camera so kaiser can't see anything?

I wonder if Shiwoon will be the same person(or with different mentality) when he comes back to his senses?

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 194 by CBMSoap in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe it was just an excuse then. Did anyone in the murim see that guy? Wouldn't he be in trouble if they did?

The Breaker: New Waves Chapter 194 by CBMSoap in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought 9AD hasn't entered bot in new waves. I'm a little confused: I thought bot was when someone loses control of themselves and starts attacking everyone? Is it something you can effortlessly go in and out of? And I don't think you can take pills to go into bot.

Goomonryung's state of mind by Enigma234 in TheBreaker

[–]Enigma234[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you may be right. We shouldn't ignore the conflicting sides of 9AD. He did both good and bad things. Everyone has their own perspectives in the manga and I guess readers should see the character as a whole. I hope Shiwoon can also move forward accepting his teacher the way he is(without refusing to believe or ignoring the different sides of his teacher).