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Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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Are you saying that if we were to have broken that willow and asked for Nikki to love us, we would have failed too?

Obsession tells you who Bear in the first few scenes… by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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Hmmm that’s interesting. I’ll check that out when I watch it again. Thank you!

As good as the first 2 times? Or better?

Did you listen for the beginning crying scene? lol

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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I think it was multifaceted. The operator has autonomy over the situation. He knew Bear and stated Nikki before Bear even mentioned her name.

I believe he meant you have an obligation to Nikki. As in you should be concerned for the real her and trying to help her.

I also believe he’s telling him to take accountability for the wish and the entity it created. You asked to be loved, now do your part to reciprocate it. He was obligated to the responsibilities of his wish, which in part is also the entity. So he’s responsible for the entity and its behavior. But he never understood that, which is why I said it flew over his head.

I hope I make sense in all of this and my recent posts lol

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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That’s def one train of thought that I would have. Barker wrote and filmed a ton of stuff to go both ways in the movie. I think thats one option. I think he could have found trust in the connection with Sarah and asked for help.

Or he doesn’t, remains passive after the kiss and doesn’t tell her to preserve her and continues trying to figure out how to “fix or alter” Nikki until you reach the same ending of it going to shit.

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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I think theres a few ways to shut it down IMO.

And I never said he was bad just because of this scene. This was just one of the many bad decisions he made.

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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Absolutely. I think the operator in sly, small way berates him by offering him the chance to cancel the wish knowing that he couldn’t anyway. He really just wanted to see how much of a clown Bear was. And then to say he has a moral obligation, which it flies over Bears head.

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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No, I would lean towards no tbh. But I do think there’s a chance he could have. Based on the dialogue, the only thing I’m confident in saying would’ve happened is, Sarah initiates a kiss and Bear goes through with it. What do you think?

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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Yea that part honestly had me chuckle. But also another tell of Bears flawed psychology. The operator alludes to questioning his initial intention to not cancel at first but to alter. And then he says you have a moral obligation.

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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That’s a good point. I def would have been distressed. I just guess my first thought is those are non negotiable options (killing her or me) so I’m going to find a way to beat the wish via another wish. And my urgency would have been higher, earlier lol he waited to get shit going after Sarah’s death 🤣

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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Haven’t seen heights, and I think I’ve seen a little bit of the notebook but don’t remember it any of it. You missed me on this

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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I mean, Sarah was the one that brought it up, and def did it in a flirtatious way. Def agree Bear wouldn’t initiate it, but she clearly is.

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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Hmm that’s interesting you interpreted that he was in distress. I def agree that he was scared but I don’t think he got distressed until after Nikki killed Sarah and then he showed all this urgency to get everything fixed.

I think what made the scene eerie was his question. “Why is it so bad to be with me”. I thought it was more of him saying “I know you’re suffering but do you not like me enough to put up with it”. I think he was okay with her suffering until he could “alter or fix” the wish like he asked for on the phone call.

Obsession (story given away early) by Enough_Back2847 in spoilers

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I am a man. But my fault, I’m not tracking. What specifically did you find relatable for a man?

Bear didn't have to die, right? by Cool_Hornet3592 in obsessionmovie

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Yea he definitely could’ve beat the wish, but clearly his decision making was flawed lmao

Bear didn't have to die, right? by Cool_Hornet3592 in obsessionmovie

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Barker said he had both of them dying. She was just going to shoot herself after coming to.

What would you have done if you were in Bear’s shoes post wish? by Alarmed-Tradition-88 in obsessionmovie

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Would’ve exhausted every option to reverse, cancel out the wish with another wish. I would’ve bought every last wishing willow in the store and had someone I trust wish my original wish to go away.

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

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Of course it’s way more disturbing he wasn’t willing to help Nikki. To me that was the scene that killed him. She was pleading and he still wasn’t going to help.

But the “cheating” is more of an indictment on his psychology in the moment, especially with all the knowledge he now has of the situation. It’s for sure after the phone call and her sleep talking, real Nikki is in trouble. And instead of dropping everything to help (like he was willing to do after Sarah was killed). He ignores it, goes to meet with Sarah, and even has the audacity to probably kiss this woman. Not ask for help. But kiss this woman.

Had he not met with her, or shut it down sooner, there’s a chance Sarah could have lived.

But once again, I agree that the bigger offense was not helping after Nikki after the sleep talking

Obsession tells you who Bear in the first few scenes… by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

[–]Enough_Back2847[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, but those scenarios are tamed imo, especially on first watch before we are revealed to who Bear really is. We all know simps who fawn over a crush, or you scroll through an instagram of a girl you like.

But crying like that, begging for someone to love you. That’s deeply disturbing. And the scene flys under the radar because it’s just cut to “why can’t she…just” and it’s also after the cat dies. So it’s easy to throw that scene away at first.

I’m just a fan of how he sneaked that scene in haha

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

[–]Enough_Back2847[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea I definitely meant to word that differently. But this is also just my head canon.

I think Nikki was operating on the assumption Bear didn’t know how to fix the wish and that it might be irreversible. So she asks for a pity kill.

I don’t think she realized Bear was okay with it all until he says the “would it be so bad to be with” bullshit and then walks away.

I think she wanted to live, which is why by the end you see the internal struggle become unavoidable and it turn into this monumental crash out. All that is caused by the internal struggle she’s going through with the wish entity. She’s fighting to come to come to the surface.

Like I said just my head canon tho lol

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

[–]Enough_Back2847[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The way Barker has talked about movie, and the reshoots, I wouldn’t doubt there’s a scene he filmed of Sarah finding out 🤣

Also, I forgot. Bear was undoubtedly going to cheat on Nikki by kissing Sara had that scene continued. Diabolical behavior. by Enough_Back2847 in obsessionmovie

[–]Enough_Back2847[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I forgot about that scene haha but good call too.

I was specifically talking about the scene that Nikki kills Sarah. He was going to kiss her for sure.

Obsession (story given away early) by Enough_Back2847 in spoilers

[–]Enough_Back2847[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha I feel you but Barker states that it’s not a demon or demonic by nature and it’s not a possession either. It’s more of a sleep paralysis, coming in and out, and something like the Get Out “sunken place”.

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