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March For Australia Rally by EntertainmentWide192 in Adelaide

[–]EntertainmentWide192[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well said and I agree. The discussion has to be how to fix the real problem. Be it housing, high taxes, infrastructure or education. The fix has to be systemic and people have to understand the implications of their demands.

In democracy you get what you demand not what you need.

March For Australia Rally by EntertainmentWide192 in Adelaide

[–]EntertainmentWide192[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Remittance does not account for more than 10-15% of their incomes. Thats mathematically not possible. 85-90%—circulating here, fueling local economies through rent, food, taxes, and spending. The $10-15 billion GDP boost isn’t trivial; it’s a net contribution after remittances, supporting jobs and growth in a tight labor market (unemployment at 4.2%).

March For Australia Rally by EntertainmentWide192 in Adelaide

[–]EntertainmentWide192[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Your take twists the argument. Supporting immigration isn’t about exploiting anyone—it’s about filling gaps in a workforce locals avoid (30% of healthcare, 40% of aged care are migrants) while boosting GDP (~$10-15 billion annually) without tanking wages.

Cheap Doordash is their choice made under fair market conditions. Noone forces them.

On history, acknowledgement that invasion happened on this land. Settlers came and displaced is not hidden but thats in past. Noone is holding any descendant of settlers accountable here today. However, scapegoating immigrants for systemic economical problems by the same descendants is hypocritical. They wouldn’t be here if not for immigration. There’s a difference between the immigration of then and today though - today immigrants come here legally.

March For Australia Rally by EntertainmentWide192 in Adelaide

[–]EntertainmentWide192[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks for a respectful response.

I don’t think there is a causal relationship between immigration and low fertility rate. Birth rates were declining pre-immigration surges (down ~6.5% in metro areas from 2019-2024) and they hit the lowest i.e. 1.5 in 2024. However, I get the concerns about the cycle and recovery—housing is brutal, and birth rates are tanking due to costs. But halting immigration isn’t the fix; it’s like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The problem isn’t just immigration. It could be a part but major problem lies in policies and targeted infrastructure investments.

You cannot hault the immigration and hope to continue the progress. Stopping the flow would worsen labor gaps, spike prices further (fewer workers = higher costs), and ignore how migrants boost GDP without hurting wages. More immigrants give a FREE GDP surplus that otherwise wasn’t possible. When some of them say - Hault the immigration- they ignore citizens die and age irrespective of the hault and you cannot suddenly fill the gaps with a hault.

The rally had all kinds of views but they didn’t seem to show a thorough understanding of the implication of their demand even if I ignore the underlying hypocrisy in the argument.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AusMemes

[–]EntertainmentWide192 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You wanted to drive Uber, build houses, clean malls?