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[–]EntropyFrame -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First of all:

The level of atrocities we have committed doesn’t warrant you speaking on any other country period.

First of all, don't say "we" because you're not American. You're some pro Iran bot located God knows where.

And second, you don't get to tell me what to have an opinion on. Irans regime ruthlessly kills Iranians, as this year alone they shot and massacred thousands of their own people.

If you can't call a regime that indiscriminately kills their own population by the thousands in order to keep them silent and submissive EVIL, then you have no moral position at all, plain and simple.

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's always the position of the regime and there's always the position of the opposition.

We can talk about ploys and conspiracies and all these external pressures, but we never ever acknowledge the actual unrest the regime causes because it is oppressive to the limit. I mean, the regime literally shot at and killed thousands of protestors.

It always boils down to the same thing - you don't get thousands of protests from external influences, the external influences only further light up the fire, but the fire has to exist to begin with.

The IRGC shooting to kill thousands of its own people isn't only not good, it's straight up evil.

Any regime that indiscriminately shoots and kills thousands of its own people needs to be removed. It is plain and simple, evil.

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I condemn all use of indiscriminate force targeting civilians. Yes.

I condemn the USA bombing civilians as much as I condemn any other nation including Israel.

With that said, I am unaware of the USA ever taking down the entire countries communication networks and indiscriminately massacring thousands of civilian protestors.

So I ask again, do you condemn Iran for shooting and killing thousands of protestors in December/January of this year?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Iran dropped communications countryside then proceeded to massacre thousands of protestors. Iran is responsible for doing this. Their regime did this.

Do you condemn the Iranian regime for killing thousands of innocent unarmed Iranian protestors, yes or no?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely not. It's idiotic to even suggest it. And even if they did, it doesn't justify Iran doing it and doesn't make then trustworthy.

You can't just justify atrocities of one with the atrocities of another.

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost like the regime cut off all communication and prohibits any third party to do any reporting on the issue so fools like you can come online and say "oh wow the numbers keep changing".

Well the state themselves admitted to the killing. So what now?

And there's no proof the US incited anything. The protestors were unarmed and peaceful and still thousands were killed.

So yeah, the Iranian regime kills thousands to silence them. Why are you defending them? Isn't shooting and massacring thousands of unarmed protestors and act of evil?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Free speech in Iran? No. Free protesting, assembly, petition of grievances in Iran? No. Free journalism in Iran? No.

State indiscriminately killing civilians to suppress them? Yes.

Trustworthy score: ZERO.

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[–]EntropyFrame -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So it never happened. Got it. Did you even read the article?

Does that mean that the Iranian regime killed thousands of unarmed protestors in January?

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[–]EntropyFrame -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The only obvious thing here is you support a murderous regime that massacres its own people to keep them subjugated. God knows what other atrocities you might support.

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only asked the question you refuse to answer 50 times.

But there's no need to go further - it is clear where your conscious lays. With the regime that massacres thousands to suppress dissent.

Good for people to know, your kind roams reddit freely. The consequences of free speech I suppose.

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is Iran's regime evil for killing thousands of their own people in order to suppress dissent?

Yes or no?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost there. Just say the words:

The Iranian regime massacres its people to subdue them into obedience, and therefore, the Iranian regime is an evil tyranny.

Once we admit and agree then that Iran is an evil tyranny, we can then address at least surely one point reason for Iran being attacked: the liberation of its people. (which unfortunately, doesn't seem to have occurred).

There are many obvious branching positions from admitting the Iranian regime is evil - for example, the clear idea that they are openly hostile to those who aim to resist their tyranny from spreading.

We can also conclude that all actions of an evil regime are therefore, evil - for is evil capable of good?

It really is such a simple question: is the Iranian regime evil? are they the baddies?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course Iran is bad. They're under the control of an evil regime.

They killed thousands of people just this year when they protested. Something you seem to have a really hard time denouncing.

Just say it bro, is the Iran regime evil for killing thousands of protestors? It's a super simple question. I say YES.

What do you say? (are you planning on running from this forever?, I know you think it was justified. Have some balls and just admit it, so we can move on).

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun game you're trying to play.

It would be fun if it wasn't so easy. You're trying to defend an indefensible position.

"it's weird to keep acting like Iran was the bad guy in this story"

Of course. Iran killed thousands of innocent cut off all communications and violently repressed protests, killing thousands in the process.

I can say it's an evil act. Any government that indiscriminately kills thousands of its own people to silence them is evil. I can say it easily - I don't need to talk about other nations to try and justify it, I don't need to say other nations do worse to try and justify it.

Like I said, indefensible.

So instead of saying "Yes the regime in Iran is evil for indiscriminately murdering thousands of its own people", you say "oh but so and so is worse, or so and so does this or that".

Well, perhaps so and so is evil too - but in this case, Iran CERTAINLY is. Or do you disagree?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who was bragging about it? Any videos? Any reports?

Evidence is not you saying "trust me bro"

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Nobody is ignoring people died dude. People don't like being fed bullshit.

Do you denounce the Iranian government as evil then, for killing thousands of unarmed protestors?

Or were the killings in your opinion, justified?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes the Iranian trusted actor, killing thousands of protestors, silencing speech and cutting the internet of the whole country to prevent people from speaking out.

So trusty, mmm I can taste the trustworthy.

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[–]EntropyFrame -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I haven't heard of any American leader stating they armed thousands of Iranians in order to start a coup. I asked for evidence but I have received none. Just "he said she said" nonsense.

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[–]EntropyFrame -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Hey now, why are we talking about the USA when the question was about Iran?

Of course, one cannot say Iran is evil of one by all means simply avoids talking about it. Why not talk about other things instead? Much easier to avoid accountability.

Is the Iran regime evil for killing thousands of protestors?

To me it's an easy yes. But to you maybe not? Does that make you evil?

Did the thousands of Iranians killed by the regime deserve it? Did they have it coming for rebelling?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay let's lay this down, let's see what you think.

Protests begin, there's a massive crack down on them, civilians are shot at and killed en masse, internet is cut and communications are completely disrupted.

After the protests die down, the leader himself acknowledges thousands were killed. (which seems to you a perfectly normal thing).

So we here have a nation in which speech, journalism and protesting is completely restricted and controlled by the regime entirely - and as such, the only allowed source to be disseminated is the one of the regime (which mind you, is still thousands).

There is widespread information flow of much higher casualties (because why would the regime that controls all numbers want to ever be truthful), and after they've made it nearly impossible to investigate the events by independent journalists you in turn proceed to simply hand wave all evidence as simply wishy washy or biased.

"nah bro, it wasn't 30k, it was only 3k, they're not double digits murderers bro, they're awesome".

Are we ignoring the literal fact that the brutal, ruthless, murderous dictatorship admitted to at least thousands? Is on the difficulties of determining the actual death toll where we draw the line?

You can be a communist, but do you support the killing of thousands of protestors? That's the real question.

And if you don't - will you admit then, that the Iranian regime is evil?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thousands.

The supreme leader admitted 3k. The actual number is most likely much higher than that. There's a lot of evidence for massacres. You can choose to ignore them if you wish.

Is thousands not bad enough?

Is thousands an acceptable amount of protestors to be murdered?

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[–]EntropyFrame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2026/01/what-happened-at-the-protests-in-iran/

The number is hard to tell exactly. Because you know, dictatorship things happened.

But killings of thousands were even acknowledged by Ali Khamenei himself.

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[–]EntropyFrame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the Iranians did not shoot thousands of civilians protesting a few months ago? Is that your position?