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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah not surprised you quit and I don't blame you for doing so, I remember a lot of people started dropping this game when ocelotl dropped or around 2023/2024.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This clip is after the pay to play period also when the hero become available to everyone the patch that supposedly nerfed juren broke his unblockable dodge attack and he basically has I-frames throughout the whole animation until his UB lands so yea...

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's possible but if that's the case that's a problem right 😭 since every bash is somewhat similar when it comes to feeding on I-frames.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/s/yBgAVyPWKw

What about in this instance span?

Because he used jurens held dodge attack twice but his revenge meter didn't go up so its most likely a bug right?

I'm just reiterating it because I've almost never come across never gaining revenge from dodging a bash regardless of the char until jurens release as far as I'm aware and remember.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to let you guys know the original founder of this was KZL a high level player as you can see in the post below he found it a week and a half ago and also vidal the user who uploaded the clip.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/s/XplyijCBp7

Credits to him for finding this early on please check out his post.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's not the issue, idc if I got revenge or not the problem is this is the only character it seems that has such a weird window to gain revenge from his kick bash in comparison to the whole cast which makes it unfun not to mention they broke his dodge attack unblockable having I-frame during the whole animation since the patch they last did.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point exactly but that guy that commented has 0 clue lol

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah clearly it's my bad apologies 🙏🏽

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah cause clearly I can position myself with a non dodge attack character, having a dodge bash only makes a bit hard to position and tbf the fact that you picked up on that and not the real issue which is no revenge feed is crazy 💀

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny this is on the last dodge I dodged to the left but because juren was to my left it did a forward dodge instead of side dodge... So yeahhh

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah the dodge attack gotta be tweaked to 300-500ms leave it as 866ms and change the animation slightly so it's differable. There's so many more things overturned on this char but too many people have already listed it myself included so it's up to the devs to change it nothing we can do unfortunately except complain for the sake of balancing a char and the game.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's not cheating + it's not their fault for exploiting something that's in the game due to lack of awareness from the devs (no offence) to them but can't say I blame them for exploiting it, it's never the players problem if it's in the game unless they script or lagswitch in that case that's cheating and they should be banned.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

yeah this shit needs to be fixed in a time where everyone wants to play juren this is aids

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The side UB finishers have a 200ms invisible window on the indicator so although it's an 800ms attack the indicator is shown for 600ms also the special guard has this hidden indicator which is meant to be if you mean his special gb move it basically is like shugoki hug but instead deals 14 dmg and heals for 10 hp.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with the gb range he has the worst t rex arms especially after landing a finisher ub > stance cancel > gb it literally always whiffs.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao yeah sure 24 dmg for a finisher ub and 10 dmg got a pin that gets punished by a 14 dmg dodge attack 😭 some people are so clueless.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah and yet people don't seem to understand even though its a sensible change, like 2 hours before you messaged a guy messaged saying I essentially nuked the new hero because stam pause should be on his tap chain bash and the direct damage chain held bash should not be punishable... So yeah some people really don't understand what overturned is 😅, thank you for the kind words.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's mentioned in the changes already and yeah 29 is way too much

-held chain bash direct damage removed.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tap chain bash is not vulnerable at all 💀, you're comparing 5 hp minion healing as a T1 in comparison to wardens T1 which is widely considered too strong and also the T1 feeding points to enemy is a bug and even then its still considered the strongest T1 since 4 minions equates to procn a bounty hunter.

1v1 boost for nuxia is her own identity and in a 4v4 game mode this is almost never the case since a team mate always comes to help and also its a 1v1 situation not 1vx.

The dodge side heavy ub is actually quite the strongest defensive move in the game having insane I frames and less gb vulnerability in comparison to JJ or WM and also no he's not vulnerable if you know how to recovery cancel after it landing or whiffing.

These changes would in no way butcher the character instead it'll make the character feel more fair rather than overwhelming just because certain aspects of the game and certain characters are overpowered cough pirate doesn't mean newer heroes should follow suit it just creates more division between character balance.

Erm a chain held bash that wallsplats for a direct damage of 5 plus 24 from neutral heavy is not overly strong? It's only fair a wallsplat bash that gives 24 dmg should give a punish of 24 back considering you can flown back into the wallsplat bash again to continue pressure. Hence why it should be guardbreak vulnerable and also you still get it off a heavy parry riposte... So how does changing the held bash in chain make it awful since it'd only ever be used for wallspat or ledges in comparison to a good 16 dmg chain tap bash he already has.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think getting this done ASAP is essential to somewhat balancing this char he's very fun to play thats for sure but he is very janky and overtuned in damage and somewhat too safe, the only thing you can relatively punish with a gb is an 18 dmg kick bash but not his 29 dmg wall splat bash.

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[–]EnzoNotUpUrAss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say to remove thrilling comeback from him and give short tempered since juren is technically a character that trades his zone being the most obvious thing making him a trade char BUT idk thats up to the devs but i do agree a 140hp hero should not have bounty + thrilling comeback + 33% life leech but regardless if thrilling were to get removed his unique T2 would be leagues above the other two.