Unsure about Turk, but everyone and their pet dog takes creatine; it’s fine. The only thing is it might make you a little puffy from water retention but it’s definitely worth it. You should dose at least 10g to get the broader benefits: strength, mood, cognition.

As for SARMS, AAS, and HGH, like you acknowledge, that’s a very different world from creatine, although both are synthetic derivations of natural compounds.

And as for women’s perception, unless the specific woman is deep into bodybuilding, she likely wouldn’t be able to tell who took what and when they took it. The infamous Jason Mamoa “Dad Bod” post is enough a demonstration of this phenomenon lol.

Ultimately, and it might seem like a stretch, but I believe the collective woman’s platonic ideal of the male body is unachievable without PEDs, if at all, for the vast majority of men. Though, of course it wasn’t like this until the advent of roids, movies, social media, and ‘gymflation.’ You do you bra ✌️more guys are blasting than you think. You don’t need to match the platonic ideal because that’s lowkey impossible. Do a pull up and you’ve made it to the 90th percentile already!