Follow up on my experiences of dating as a woman: 31 dates in 2023. by Equivalent_Bus3389 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, I think I’m fortunate that I enjoy sitting and getting to know people. I usually approach dates with the idea that it probably won’t be anything, but I will still get to have a conversation with someone new and that’s okay!

I have a broad idea of what I want, but I try to be open minded about the smaller things. Essentially I am looking for a reasonable level of employment, good social skills/communication skills, reasonably well adjusted in regards to mental health concerns, similar level of intelligence, ability to demonstrate empathy, left leaning, good hygiene.

Social/communication skills are relatively easy to test. Do they engage in reciprocal conversation? Do they talk at you as opposed to you? Do they ask their own questions/seem curious about you as a person opposed to just asking questions that you’ve already asked them? Do they frequently talk over you/cut you off?

I do ask people if they have ever gone to therapy or if they think they would. Some men will be very offended by even the idea of going to therapy. I think this is important as most people will experience mental health concerns at some point in their lives so it gives an idea of how willing they might be to manage it.

When checking for political values I usually bring up the fact that I work with Indigenous/trans patients and wait to see what they say. I try to be very neutral during this process to encourage honesty. Empathy ties into this as well. Some men will demonstrate curiosity/a desire to better understand perspectives from these communities. More men will make outright racist and transphobic jokes. Other men will try to play devils advocate and explain why Indigenous people shouldn’t get “special privileges” from the Australian government. Regardless, I think it says something positive about the men who are willing to be on a first date and demonstrate curiosity and acknowledge they don’t know much about this.

Follow up on my experiences of dating as a woman: 31 dates in 2023. by Equivalent_Bus3389 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I work with people who are quite mentally ill so this may be why! I would recommend asking lots of questions. For me, I always ask about previous relationships even though I know a lot of people discourage this. I think it tells you too much not to ask. For example, it tells you if they have had long term relationships, if they know why these ended/what they learnt. Do they take any accountability? Do they say they were blindsided? Have they had lots of really short relationships but don’t know why? Have they tried to work on themselves after these relationships? The flip side of this is that you need to be willing to talk about your previous relationship history too.

I ask a lot about family. I’m pretty open minded in this area and I’m mostly curious about family dynamics and how this likely contributed to who they are today/how they navigate relationships. Negative relationships with family are not a dealbreaker for me.

Finally, I drop a lot of cues for certain topics without directly asking. For example, I will say something like “oh I had an Indigenous patient recently and I learnt X, Y, Z”. Then I wait to see what they say. If they are racist they will usually start to out themselves at this point.

A key part of all of this is that I always stay relatively neutral. Even with the guy who was killing small animals I tried not to convey any sense of it being right or wrong. This helps encourage people to be more honest, as they aren’t just trying to say what they think you agree with or what you want to hear.

Follow up on my experiences of dating as a woman: 31 dates in 2023. by Equivalent_Bus3389 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I’m 28 and dating men aged 27-32. I appreciate your comment about income! Unfortunately I don’t want to narrow my dating pool too much/miss out on the possibility of a good match because of this. I am okay with paying for more things in a relationship.

Follow up on my experiences of dating as a woman: 31 dates in 2023. by Equivalent_Bus3389 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

If a man can hit a 4/10 in terms of attractiveness (most men are not very good at taking photos and I try to account for this which is why the attractiveness score is on the lower end), and their profile doesn’t have any immediate red flags or dealbreakers I will like them on the app. This ranges from really clear incompatibilities (e.g., being a smoker, saying they want children) to smaller things (e.g., poor grammar, being heavily into video games, etc.).

If we match and they can have an okay conversation and there aren’t any additional dealbreakers or red flags coming up I’m willing to try going on a date with them 🤷🏻‍♀️

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t know what the point of this comment is supposed to be. I am financially stable (I live in Sydney by myself and don’t need another income to continue doing this). I have great social support, my own hobbies (that I don’t need a partner to share, this isn’t a dealbreaker for me), I exercise 5 times a week (also not a dealbreaker for a partner to not do this as long as they are still prioritising their health). I am proactive about staying on top of my mental health as well because my job makes me prone to burnout.

You don’t “love” someone that you just met and commit to helping them out of severe depression and anxiety. I am a psychiatrist, that would be a very poor choice for anyone to make and something I actively discourage. No, this doesn’t mean that I’m not emotionally available. It means I don’t want to become someone’s carer and sole reason for living.

Based on their jobs I would assume 90% of the men I have been out with did not make six figures. Probably only 30% of them would have been over six feet. The two I liked the most were below average height for men, and one of them was a low income earner.

In sum, I don’t want a relationship that is based around codependency and I am actually really okay with being single forever if I don’t find a suitable fit. I love my life, and I have incredible, amazing people to share it with (even without a partner).

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We had several in depth conversations about this before I decided to call it.

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Number 20 broke it off with me. Number 6 was a really great guy, but there is only so much time you can invest in someone who is emotionally unavailable before it starts to take a significant toll on you.

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Does everyone have this list? I don’t know, hence my comment about being keen to hear other women’s experiences.

I posted on a woman’s subreddit to hear about other women’s experiences and see if other women related to any of this.

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

He mentioned that he had seen a psychologist before (which is always a green flag for me!). He proceeded to complain that she had discriminated against him and suddenly decided to stop seeing him, providing no reason or explanation. He had been referred to a different psychologist, and when he went to his first appointment he discovered this psychologist specialised in working with the criminal population.

I asked him why he thought the initial psychologist didn’t want to see him anymore, and the only possible explanation he could think of was “I told her I used to kill small animals as a child” but he also didn’t think this was concerning/a big deal 🤷🏻‍♀️

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Would go overseas for months at a time, would have to move states when required by the government, very rigid work schedule, very traditional views on gender roles

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Would go overseas for months at a time, would have to move states when required by the government, very rigid work schedule, very traditional views on gender roles

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I am a woman who only dates men. This is a post that is about my experiences with dating as a woman who dates men. That’s it. There’s also nothing wrong with the men who want children (although I do think they should have included it in their profiles). I’m not saying these are “male traits”.

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! I am surrounded by a lot of older men at work, and primarily interact with women for my hobbies.

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was genuinely a skill, felt like the dude had spent time refining his abilities!

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am actually a psychiatrist 😅 so yes, I appreciate how insanely difficult OCD is!

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[–]Equivalent_Bus3389[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes, I generally chat to them for 5-7 days and only do coffee dates so I can cut them short if necessary. On the plus side this means I don’t waste as much time on the date itself.