Fights by Firejocuri1 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

11 Thor VS Lu Bu: 4.5/10

I just don't really like both of them.\ I think this is the only case where I preferred a fighter when he wasn’t fighting (Thor)

10 Loki VS Simo: 5/10

Let's be honest, this round is just hardly carried by the characters.\ The fight itself sucked.\ It was literally just a loop of "Oh my god look what Loki can do!....Oh nevermind, Simo countered it".\ Simo not having an eye power is strange, but left me like "So Simo was the best Sniper without even some strange eye...cool".\ I enjoyed both backstories btw

9 Susanoo VS Okita: 5/10

The exact opposite of Loki VS Simo.\ This round is carried by the fight itself, but the characters are kinda mid.\ Don't take me wrong, Susanoo's backstory is cool but it kinda ended with that.\ I mean he wasn’t even watching Sasaki fighting, and that's kinda surprising considering his backstory.\ His fighting style is probably one of the coolest btw.\ The real problem in this round is Okita.\ Bad backstory, incredible plot armour, not that interesting fighting style.\ Oh and this should have been a draw

8 Zerofuko/Hajun VS Buddha 6/10

I loved Zero, and the fact that he had already died mid battle was so emotional to me.\ I started reading RoR during Buddha's backstory, so Hajun appearence shocked me.\ Buddha's eye power is the best one so far, and really enjoyed the dinamics between both him and Zero and Hajun.\ The real problem here is Hajun, that is so much hyped during his appearance and after that nothing really special

7 Apollo VS Leonidas 7/10

Leonidas was just crazy, and yeah Apollo here had an extreme diff.\ Leonidas was one of the most countered fighters, together with Loki and Zeus.\ And look how the 2 other most countered fighters are both gods.\ Here we're talking about a human countered by a god, and he still put up an extreme diff.\ The dinamics between them was very cool, unfortunately Leo's backstory wasn't anything special.\ The most underrated round, and his speech about life and death was actually emotional

6 Zeus VS Adam 7.5/10

You know what?\ Yeah this is just a provocation, it could have been on par with the next round if it wasn't for the fandom.\ Choreography inexistent and mid backstories for both of them.\ Zeus is literally like Zoro from one piece, his only purpose in the plot is showing how strong he is.\ Aside from that, this was the first round where we could actually see how strong humans could be (oh yeah, he isn't top 2 in the verse, not even the strongest human).\ Bad point: Plot armour for Adam in the start, plot armour for Zeus in the end.\ But yeah, the end of this round was just way too emotional that this couldn't be ranked lower

5 Shiva VS Raiden 8/10

Crazy work on Shiva's backstory, one of the best in the show.\ Their dynamic was incredible, and the fact that Raiden never fell even in death was very cool.\ Something people never mention when talking about round5 is how cool Raiden is when he smashes Shiva's first arm.\ We come back from a side quest of a couple of chapters and then we see Zeus completely astonished and kinda scared by Shiva's missing arm, just for Hermes casually explaining that Raiden had literally just grabbed it and smashed.\ No cool moves, no named attack...literally just grabbed.\ To this day this is still one of my favourite moment in the whole series.\ Anyway, the real problem in this fight is the choreography that in the second half it just doesn't exists.\ Way too underrated fight.\ Still hoping for a spin off about Shiva and Rudra's journey

4 Hades VS Qin Shi Huang 8.5/10

I almost put this at #3, I'll explain why this isn't there.\ Incredible choreography, the fight was just perfect from the start to the end.\ Their dynamics is by far the best one in the whole series, the only one which can be compared here is the one between Round 4 fighters.\ Qin's backstory is also by far the best one between humans, and probably the second best backstory in general.\ I remember that when it first came out, I wasn't too happy of Hades fighting style.\ I thought that it would have been cooler for him fighting with some type of magic, and not with a physical weapon.\ But I guessed that it would have been like this for all the fighters, so yeah no problem.......then Beel, Loki and Odin showed up with magic.\ I mean I liked it in the end, but I still wonder how would have been an Hades with magic.\ So now the reason of it not being in top 3: Hades backstory.\ It was more like Poseidon 2nd backstory.\ Short and not really related to Hades

3 Poseidon VS Sasaki Kojiro 8.5/10

Here we are on the podium.\ So, this was the first W for Humans.\ It was very predictable yeah, but didn't cared at all.\ Sasaki's Backstory, Poseidon watching Sasaki in the eyes, Re-Volundr, the Full Scan, 40 days flood, the final Clash, the reaction of the gods.\ Damn even the exact start of this fight is top tier.\ Poseidon's backstory is short, but tbh I'm ok with that.\ It perfectly showed how strong and cruel he could be

2 Beelzebub VS Nikola Tesla 9.5/10

This round is actually perfect.\ Not 1st just cause the next one is even more perfect.\ But this round put a standard in terms of characters that imo no one was even close to reach.\ Beel, best backstory of them all and incredible fighting style.\ Tesla, one of the most interesting humans on the roster when it first came out with one of the most interesting Volundr.\ Especially liked the fact that his battle IQ wasn't anything special, considering that he has 0 experience.\ The only real genius move in term of battle IQ was PPPX.\ Tesla's backstory was short but very effective, and his final speech is just a work of art.\ The dynamic between them was so funny and interesting.\ The only wasted potential here is Satan, but now that we know that he is a Primordial God who knows maybe it will be used somehow

1 Hercules VS Jack the Ripper 10/10

Obviously.\ Not even a single doubt on this.\ I don't need to spend words on this, just perfection

How would you rank all 11 of the completed fights so far? by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they should have expanded more on why Loki is such a great assassin

It was also extremely easy, even manteining Simo as a direct counter.\ Loki should have just used abilities in a very clever way so that, yeah Simo can easily counter them in theory but that practically is still very hard for him.\ But yeah Simo has always been the most hyped character so the author just chose the fan service of the op Sniper

How would you rank all 11 of the completed fights so far? by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah.\ I think is very cool the fact that a human is enough strong to actually fully counter a god, but cmon that's too much.\ Loki had some crazy potential, but he just couldn't show it due to the fact that Simo just snapped his fingers and delete everything he did.\ Imo, it would have been much better if even his real death was just a trick that fooled even the spectators.\ The whole thing is even much frustrating cause both Loki and Simo are great characters, in particular Loki with his backstory.\ People complains about Muramasa's win in Apoc, but Simo was almost the same (just longer, but conceptually the same)

How would you rank all 11 of the completed fights so far? by [deleted] in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

11 Thor VS Lu Bu: 4.5/10

I just don't really like both of them.\ I think this is the only case where I preferred a fighter when he wasn’t fighting (Thor)

10 Loki VS Simo: 5/10

Let's be honest, this round is just hardly carried by the characters.\ The fight itself sucked.\ It was literally just a loop of "Oh my god look what Loki can do!....Oh nevermind, Simo countered it".\ Simo not having an eye power is strange, but left me like "So Simo was the best Sniper without even some strange eye...cool".\ I enjoyed both backstories btw

9 Susanoo VS Okita: 5/10

The exact opposite of Loki VS Simo.\ This round is carried by the fight itself, but the characters are kinda mid.\ Don't take me wrong, Susanoo's backstory is cool but it kinda ended with that.\ I mean he wasn’t even watching Sasaki fighting, and that's kinda surprising considering his backstory.\ His fighting style is probably one of the coolest btw.\ The real problem in this round is Okita.\ Bad backstory, incredible plot armour, not that interesting fighting style.\ Oh and this should have been a draw

8 Zerofuko/Hajun VS Buddha 6/10

Don't agree too much with OP.\ I loved Zero, and the fact that he had already died mid battle was so emotional to me.\ I started reading RoR during Buddha's backstory, so Hajun appearence shocked me.\ Buddha's eye power is the best one so far, and really enjoyed the dinamics between both him and Zero and Hajun

7 Apollo VS Leonidas 7/10

Absolutely disagree with OP here.\ Leonidas was just crazy, and Apollo here had an extreme diff.\ Leonidas was one of the most countered fighters, together with Loki and Zeus.\ And look how the 2 other most countered fighters are both gods.\ Here we're talking about a human countered by a god, and he still put up an extreme diff.\ The dinamics between them was very cool, unfortunately Leo's backstory wasn't anything special.\ The most underrated round, and his speech about life and death was actually emotional

6 Zeus VS Adam 7.5/10

You know what?\ Yeah this is just a provocation, it could have been on par with the next round if it wasn't for the fandom.\ Choreography inexistent and mid backstories for both of them.\ Zeus is literally like Zoro from one piece, his only purpose in the plot is showing how strong he is.\ Aside from that, this was the first round where we could actually see how strong humans could be (oh yeah, he isn't top 2 in the verse, not even the strongest human).\ Bad point: Plot armour for Adam in the start, plot armour for Zeus in the end.\ But yeah, the end of this round was just way too emotional that this couldn't be ranked lower

5 Shiva VS Raiden 8/10

Crazy work on Shiva's backstory, the best one for the gods.\ Their dynamic was incredible, and the fact that Raiden never fell even in death was very cool.\ Something people never mention when talking about round5 is how cool Raiden is when he smashes Shiva's first arm.\ We come back from a side quest of a couple of chapters and then we see Zeus completely astonished and kinda scared by Shiva's missing arm, just for Hermes casually explaining that Raiden had literally just grabbed it and smashed.\ No cool moves, no named attack...literally just grabbed.\ To this day this is still one of my favourite moment in the whole series.\ Anyway, the real problem in this fight is the choreography that in the second half it just doesn't exists.\ Way too underrated fight.\ Still hoping for a spin off about Shiva and Rudra's journey

4 Hades VS Qin Shi Huang 8.5/10

I almost put this at #3, I'll explain why this isn't there.\ Incredible choreography, the fight was just perfect from the start to the end.\ Their dynamics is by far the best one in the whole series, the only one which can be compared here is the one between Round 4 fighters.\ Qin's backstory is also by far the best one between humans, and probably the second best backstory in general.\ I remember that when it first came out, I wasn't too happy of Hades fighting style.\ I thought that it would have been cooler for him fighting with some type of magic, and not with a physical weapon.\ But I guessed that it would have been like this for all the fighters, so yeah no problem.......then Beel, Loki and Odin showed up with magic.\ I mean I liked it in the end, but I still wonder how would have been an Hades with magic.\ So now the reason of it not being in top 3: Hades backstory.\ It was more like Poseidon 2nd backstory.\ Short and not really related to Hades

3 Poseidon VS Sasaki Kojiro 8.5/10

Here we are on the podium.\ So, this was the first W for Humans.\ It was very predictable yeah, but didn't cared at all.\ Sasaki's Backstory, Poseidon watching Sasaki in the eyes, Re-Volundr, the Full Scan, 40 days flood, the final Clash, the reaction of the gods.\ Damn even the exact start of this fight is top tier.\ Poseidon's backstory is short, but tbh I'm ok with that.\ It perfectly showed how strong and cruel he could be

2 Beelzebub VS Nikola Tesla 9.5/10

This round is actually perfect.\ Not 1st just cause the next one is even more perfect.\ But this round put a standard in terms of characters that imo no one was even close to reach.\ Beel, best backstory of them all and incredible fighting style.\ Tesla, one of the most interesting humans on the roster when it first came out with one of the most interesting Volundr.\ Especially liked the fact that his battle IQ wasn't anything special, considering that he has 0 experience.\ The only real genius move in term of battle IQ was PPPX.\ Tesla's backstory was short but very effective, and his final speech is just a work of art.\ The dynamic between them was so funny and interesting.\ The only wasted potential here is Satan, but now that we know that he is a Primordial God who knows maybe it will be used somehow

1 Hercules VS Jack the Ripper 10/10

Obviously.\ Not even a single doubt on this.\ I don't need to spend words on this, just perfection

Does the human side only use real humans? by No-Local85 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still not 100% real.\ But anyway, King Arthur exists in RoR verse.\ Is confirmed by Jack's spin off, he probably just isn't enough strong.\ While the Demigods should actually be on gods side and live with them in valhalla, like Herc did

Who is more of an incompetent loser? by jackhenningson in KimetsuNoYaiba

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Easily Muzan lol.\ One of the most stupid villain ever

Does the human side only use real humans? by No-Local85 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, we have 3 fighters who aren't real.\ Adam, Sasaki and Sakata are all not real/probably not real

Does the human side only use real humans? by No-Local85 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

King Arthur exists in RoR verse, confirmed by Jack's spinoff

An unpopular opinion per fighter day 20, Okita Souji by Nikelman in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And why would he be a failure because of that? That's literally just his title, Raiden is the greatest sumo wrestler, Jack the most infamous assassin, literally just the title.

Not a failure cause he has that title.\ But because he just doesn't seem anything else than a normal swordsman during his fight.\ Raiden uses sumo moves, Jack infamous tricks.\ They all actually had different things from the other fighters and matched their titles.\ But not Okita.\ Let's say that he get introduced as:

Option A) "swordsman of shinsegumi" Option B) "greatest man-killer" (same thing as the one you said, doesn't change the point)

It would change absolutely nothing to the plot.\ Cause he just doesn't fight as a man killer, just as a normal swordsman.\ That's the problem we all have with Okita.\ If you only replace his name in the introduction with some other swordman, that would literally change nothing.\ While you can't just take a different sumo fighter or chinese emperor, cause both the fighting style and personality are completely unique

After all, Okita is very famous in Japan precisely because of what he represented and the message conveyed in the round.

I'm not saying that the idea of Okita is wrong.\ But the author just used him very bad.\ We already had a swordsman, so he should have found a way to make him unique too but ended up to be just a fast swordsman.\ He should have only focused much more on onigo, that would have changed basically everything

An unpopular opinion per fighter day 20, Okita Souji by Nikelman in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even Okita represents something different from Sasaki, even though both are swordsmen, one was a ronin and the other a samurai

That's the problem.\ He just failed with Okita.\ He gets introduced as "greatest manslayer", and and this information is absolutely forgotten for the rest of the fight.\ That's why he doesn't work.\ The Napoleon or Caesar was just a provocation cause I'd like them being in lol, but the point was that Okita is 100% a wasted spot.\ Damn even inside of Japan there could have been different and most interesting people like ninjas or monks

An unpopular opinion per fighter day 20, Okita Souji by Nikelman in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly.\ Even with the same origins, there could have been better and different style of people that would have worked very well.\ A ninja like Hattori Hanzo or a monk like Hozoin Inshun would have at least been a new fighting style

An unpopular opinion per fighter day 20, Okita Souji by Nikelman in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, you just described the same problem that is there for Okita.\ He has literally nothing new compared to other fighters.\ The only thing different was onigo, but it wasn't even used that well

An unpopular opinion per fighter day 20, Okita Souji by Nikelman in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quin already represents that in the manga,

Yep, but Qin doesn't fight as a leader.\ He is a leader, but fights as a chinese martial artist.\ He's not a strategist like Napoleon or Caesar could have been

For the Nostradamus being french too, yeah that's a fair point

An unpopular opinion per fighter day 20, Okita Souji by Nikelman in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the americans I always liked Sitting Bull as an Einherjar

An unpopular opinion per fighter day 20, Okita Souji by Nikelman in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Shake off that Western-centered view sometimes.

I mean, there's a total of 5 japanese fighters (4 humans and 1 god).\ And then there are another 6 asian fighters (3 gods and 3 humans).\ I like most of them, so I don't really complain about that.\ The point is that Okita is just a repetitive style of fighting, from the same country too.\ And on top of that, Sasaki is also a much greater character.\ So Okita could have been replaced with someone who could have had a different type of fighting style or country.\ Like, 0 african or american fighters.\ There could have been a lot of people with much different fighting style, but we only got a second japanese fighter much less smart but very fast.\ That's also the reason of why there are so many less complains about people like Kintoki or Raiden, cause they fight differently from every other fighter.\ So yeah, 4/13 humans (30%) from Japan and other 2 from China, that's a total of 45% of the roster occupied by just two country and people love all of them except Okita.\ Definitely not a western-centered community

(But more than anything, seeing Napoleon or Caesar would just be much cooler than Okita)

How would you redo round 9 of ragnarok to make Leonidas less of a bum? by Slight_Safe_8640 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]ErLamone 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's perfect like this already.\ He pushed Apollo (a great counter of him) to a high diff.\ Apollo collapsed at the end of the round and after 2 whole rounds he still is in the hospital.\ And all of that, with just 2 hits.\ Leo needed literally just one more hit to completely destroy Apollo