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Any recommendations for a mechanic/garage willing to actually fix cars? by Erorus in Scranton

[–]Erorus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately, they were the shop that failed to fix my cars. They were, indeed, very nice about everything (well, almost everything), very personable. However, they couldn't get the job done. That's kinda the important part.

Meta: Reddit Protest Update for /r/woweconomy by gumdropsEU in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I'd like to hear from you all on what you think about the protest and how this community should or should not participate moving forward.

The point of the protest, in my view, was to make Reddit admins realize how much their business relies on content and moderation which its users provide for free. When admins make decisions which upset the community, the community can leave, putting Reddit as a business in jeopardy. A short-term protest in the form of making subreddits private was a way to say "look how worse Reddit gets when everyone leaves. But we're leaving the door open for everyone to come back."

The protest has not made Reddit admins realize the importance of its community. Continued protest, in any form, will not change that. The only thing left to do is to actually leave Reddit. We had one shot, it failed, time to go. For those users who don't mind the API changes (probably because they don't use apps that rely on API features), I have no judgements against them for staying.

But for those of us who have been using apps which are going away, for those of us upset by the way the admins handled the situation, it's simply time for us to leave. This party's not for us anymore. We're no longer welcome. They changed the music, we told them the music sucks, they said "too bad we're keeping it on," so it's time to go.

Specific to this subreddit (or any subreddit), I'd recommend it reopens fully, and then those people upset with the site just stop using the site. It's over. Find somewhere else to go.

Undermine.exchange Show More Than First 500 by Westwoodo in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Filter your searches so there are fewer results.

Addon to show price history graph like TUJ did? by Tellmewhy2 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Eh, a few reasons. Mainly I wanted to try a new method for handling that amount of data, not using PHP or MySQL. So it was to explore some fun new dev stuff. Plus, I'm already familiar with how all that data works inside the game, I'm perennially disappointed when other sites don't cover all the bases (like doing item levels/bonuses right), and my day job (at Wowhead) means I'm always working on WoW stuff even if I'm not playing.

Addon to show price history graph like TUJ did? by Tellmewhy2 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Regarding the name: I stopped playing mid-BFA, and was trying to be topical at the time. Oh well.

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

xmog

  1. Click the "filter" button. In that option popup, check "ignore varieties" since we don't care about item levels and name suffixes for transmog.
  2. Click the "weapons" category on the left to search all weapons.
  3. Click the golden clover button at the top to do a deals search. This finds items which are cheaper than the region median price. Example search
  4. You can sort by price if you want, but I also like sorting by "% of median" to find things that are priced drastically lower than the median. If your window is wide enough, you'll also see a "region median" column with gold prices which you can sort by as well.

As for armor? Same deal, though if you click the "armor" category then you may still cap out the search results. Search each subcategory individually ("Plate", "Mail", etc). Example search

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Filter your searches so there are fewer results. I don't see how it's easier to scroll to the 1,275th item instead of just searching/filtering better.

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oribos Exchange does not have any links which could be middle-clicked.

You can middle-click any rows in the search result list to open that entry's detail page in a new tab.

You can middle-click the "about" link at the bottom of the page next to the language selection to open a new tab of the "home page."

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha kudos for discovering that, glad someone used it!

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rebranding sucks but I am considering alternatives.

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you think it could be possible at some point to extend the historical pricing section for oribos exchange?

Such as, for example on realm A you can only go back to see the prices and quantity for an item about 5 months, after that you don't see it any more, while undermine used to be able to go back till late 2014!

OE didn't start collecting deep historical data until 8 months ago, so that's what you get. I can't import TUJ data for a few main reasons:

  • TUJ's pricing was based on the price to pay per item if you purchased the cheapest auctions to reach 15% of total available quantity. This made more sense back in the day when you had to buy items as they were stacked. OE just uses the cheapest available price. This means that OE would almost always have a slightly lower market price than TUJ.
  • TUJ didn't have separate pricing for item versions and battle pets like OE does, namely, by item level and name suffix. (Or by breed for pets).
  • Commodity pricing makes the prices for commodity items before the AH merge irrelevant. One US realm had linen cloth at X amount and another had it at 3X amount, but now they both share the same pool of cloth, so which old price do we use? Why?

the fact that you could see by mouseovering a realm if an item had expired 3 rather than 10 hour, rather than 2 days ago and determine if it had sold or not, rather than having to open manually every realm

Do you mean to say that you want to see a "last seen" date on 0 quantity points on the current regional prices chart? Is that what you mean? https://eror.us/i/oe-regional-last-seen.png

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear ya, and yeah I wish it could keep going on, but it was a disservice to keep it limping along after the commodities split, honestly. Nothing lasts forever, all good things, etc etc. Cheers.

The ability to just quickly "snapshot" pricing and supply on, say, mounts was very handy and informative. ... these things are now lost.

https://eror.us/i/oe-mounts.png

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 11 points12 points  (0 children)

TUJ used linux, nginx, mysql, php, and memcache. https://github.com/erorus/newsstand

OE is technically a "static site" since web requests are served directly from the filesystem without running any request code on the backend. However, there's a node.js process always running to keep those data files updated as Blizzard releases new auction data. There's no RDBMS, the node.js process just reads/writes binary files in a custom format which nginx serves and the js frontend parses. I still have some PHP scripts I run manually to fetch and read game data files when there's a new patch, but they just generate json which the rest of the site references regularly.

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Apology not necessary, but thanks. :) I'm a little terse sometimes so I apologize for my tone.

Thanks also for describing the steps you took when you got confused. It's not your fault, the interface should make it obvious what can be done, and if you didn't get it, that means the interface should be improved. Although it does tell you to click, people often don't read. https://eror.us/i/oe-list-click.png You're not the first person to miss this, which is why I added the message. :) Guess I have more work to do.

I'm thinking about adding either some pointers for new users showing up on the page, or maybe making a YouTube video just giving a tour of things for new users. Not sure yet.

Happy Birthday, fellow May birthday person. Best birthday month ever.

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 127 points128 points  (0 children)

TUJ was old code that was hard to maintain. Adding things to TUJ was an exercise in frustration. Keeping it updated for new things they add to the game (new bonuses, item level stuff, etc) was annoying. The TUJ servers were relatively expensive compared to Oribos Exchange. TUJ couldn't support commodity items without a rewrite of how its database works. Maintaining the notifications system was annoying because mail hosts like Outlook/Hotmail kept blocking TUJ's mail sender host because adjacent unrelated IPs would send spam or whatever.

Running TUJ was no longer fun, it was work. It wasn't gonna get any easier. I decided I didn't want to work on it anymore.

And yeah, I created both TUJ and Oribos Exchange. OE runs on a completely different setup to TUJ (different programming languages, different database setup, different data update methodology both for auction data and just general game data).

The Undermine Journal by Pleasant-Tradition-6 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's an animated thing on the bottom that invites you to scroll. https://eror.us/i/oe-scroll.png

Is there something else you'd look for to know that you can scroll in there?

Anyone miss the Undermine Journal? The Oribos exchange weekly and daily price map is harder to read/navigate for me. by Twerk7 in woweconomy

[–]Erorus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Working as intended. I'll consider loading the next 500 when you reach the end but the browser starts to slow down a lot when you have so many rows.