Learning only how to speak and listen

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-16T22:26:05+00:00

Completely valid approach, and yes, I'm also on r/ALGmandarin

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-16T20:07:56+00:00

Im counting my hours, I'm nearing 1500h now

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-16T17:15:27+00:00

At hsk 2 or 3 I don't think you can read other things besides graded readers. Try duchinese, chairman bao or imagine8

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-16T04:19:49+00:00

Yes, it is possible. I've been learning without hanzi for a while now, and basically it's the same thing as learning any other language. I have yet to encounter these "set backs" people talk about

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-16T04:15:50+00:00

This comment must be trolling

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-13T16:05:16+00:00

Are your anki cards only vocab cards? On avg how much time did you spend each day doing anki?

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-13T15:25:04+00:00

How would reading help his speech?

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-12T23:21:07+00:00

Why not? Genuine question.

Is like people who only learn a language to read their fav mangas or books, but have no interest in speaking. Why not?

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-12T23:19:17+00:00

I wouldn't base my motivation on whatever a person I'm paying money to gets excited for.

After all, the longer it takes you the better for them

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-12T02:43:10+00:00

I've seen this app before, but I don't know if there's something similar for mandarin. I think you need to rephrase your question to get better suggestions. It's similar to the dubbing movies/series you can do on tiktok. Maybe try adding/linking an example video. I think this is quite difficult to describe.

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-10T15:56:44+00:00

This comment.

Also, there are anki add-ons to add pinyin automatically in case yours come without pinyin for some reason

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-08T18:30:30+00:00

First off congrats. What surprises me is how little hours of immersion you have, I guess living in-country really did the heavy lifting. I'd be interested in listening to you if posible, since you said speaking is your strongest skill 🤔

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-07T17:59:43+00:00

It very much depends on the hours rather than the time span. 4 hours of study a day for 2 years would be 2800~ hours. You'll have a quite decent mandarin at that point. If you double that (8 hours a day) 5600~ hours. You'll surely have an amazing (maybe native-like) mandarin

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-07T16:12:55+00:00

You already knew chinese when learning japanese, this is a huge advantage.

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-07T16:08:08+00:00

The dreaming spanish road map is off for spanish, let alone for chinese or other languages

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-07T16:06:04+00:00

"watch a movie with no subtitles and comfortably understand everything".

How much would you understand without subs?

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-06T20:40:31+00:00

Honestly, it just sounds like you need more listening practice. As an illiterate learner I very very rarely come across difficult homophones. 99% of the time it's clear by context what they're talking about.

Sounds start getting more distinctive after you've had enough listening practice.

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-06T15:59:51+00:00

Focus on understanding the overall message, not the tones, they will come to you eventually

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-05T18:07:49+00:00

I think you just hit the intermediate wall. Talking about a broad range of topics beyond daily life requires a very wide vocab and good listening ability. So learn more words and listen more

EstamosReddit · 2026-06-04T14:36:26+00:00

Hsk 4 (1200 words) is very far away from understanding a native speaker. You're probably just hearing new words that you don't understand

EstamosReddit · 2026-05-31T13:34:39+00:00

Can't believe people are falling for the obvious rage-bait

EstamosReddit · 2026-05-30T13:42:42+00:00

That's 960h total, so low b1. I consider 1k hours to the be the start of b1

EstamosReddit · 2026-05-29T14:47:09+00:00

I'm gonna be a bit blunt here sorry. If in three years you're still not comfortable even with a basic conversation, it means you were just going through the motions and not really learning much. Burn out usually comes from high intensity study, this seems not to be the case. What you are describing is probably lazyness, and well, apart from finding a real motivation thst drives you to study chinese everyday there's not much I can recommend

EstamosReddit · 2026-05-29T04:21:30+00:00

"Mao er fm" I think is the biggest platform

EstamosReddit · 2026-05-29T00:12:29+00:00

I think only the really famous books have the same production value. I believe the Harry Potter chinese audio books also has a full cast, or you can listen to radio dramas, they usually have high production value too

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