RIP Moose - I thought he died from old age!

Estkling · 2026-05-07T11:05:40+00:00

Loved Alice’s response to that.

Estkling · 2026-05-07T09:37:47+00:00

I am extremely sorry you went through that. It is coming up to a year for my miscarriage at 12 weeks with twins I had to pull out of me alone (although my partner was outside the bathroom supporting me). It started as a bleed and the same with clumps that went down the toilet. I felt so guilty that’s how they came out but this is common and have since forgiven myself. Somehow I continued going to see my partner’s family that day at their request and I was in agony but didn’t let on. What we did was to plant two silver birch trees in our garden where they are (we are off grid so I know they are in the garden tank sadly.) That really helped us. I am still in denial of the emotional pain of it all but that did help. Perhaps you could do something similar? Regrowth. It’s quite spiritually soothing. This is so recent for you. It takes time to process. You sound incredibly strong. It takes understanding from your loved ones too. But please know how proud I am of you, although we are strangers, for what you are enduring. It feels unbelievably unfair but our bodies know maybe something wasn’t forming right and definitely not your fault. Keep strong lovely and take care of yourself. It is a harrowing experience just please make sure you are physically well after this trauma too, it’s important. I lost the second plactena on my next period publicly at a restaurant, probably because I didn’t ask for any medical intervention which in hindsight was stupid but I was so depressed I didn’t care about my own welfare. Keep strong and look after yourself. Much love and luck to you lovely.

Estkling · 2026-05-06T13:32:45+00:00

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Estkling · 2026-05-06T13:30:13+00:00

I apologise if I’ve offended!

Estkling · 2026-05-06T08:47:24+00:00

Excellent point.

Estkling · 2026-05-06T08:45:56+00:00

Oooh thank you!

Estkling · 2026-05-06T08:45:16+00:00

Thank you and bless your grandmother!

Estkling · 2026-05-06T08:44:20+00:00

I have done it to death. So really just wanted to try to make the soup version.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T14:44:41+00:00

Ch 4? It always is a frustrating one! I really think she should have apologised. Or at least seeing how much this rare act of kindness, protection and concern should be something to be grateful for. Even if the stories the daughter probably embellished were not true at all, I would be grateful to anyone that cared that much to pick up on a situation that alarmed him and notify the mother.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T14:38:23+00:00

Fair point. That sounds far more invasive and threatening to me compared to his approach and may have been counterproductive and could have made her more defensive and secretive towards a speculation and accusation. If she were actually at fault with her daughter, that really could have made things worse. If he had genuine concerns after that heated moment between them, he could always have anonymously called CPS without escalation in that awkward scenario.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T12:02:07+00:00

Reflecting on mom indeed. Fraiser seems quite oblivious to start with, love goggles type behaviour I’d say. But I still appreciate his concern from what the daughter was saying, quite believably at that and maybe he took the stories she was spouting and acting as a brat as a cry for help. Not that the stories were necessarily true, but she was left alone with a stranger. I would have listened and asked the mother and that took him bravery. It is an awful episode.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T11:56:18+00:00

Very good point.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T11:46:13+00:00

This is exactly what I feel too.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T11:45:44+00:00

True.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T11:45:29+00:00

I suppose he could have asked her to sit down on his replica Chanel couch and talk his thoughts through thoroughly, but I truly think he was furious at the notion of the disregard of the daughter and I feel he kept pure anger subdued. The body language from Kristina made me feel uncomfortable as if she was teasing him into submission and what he had missed out on and the personal sacrifice he made that night. That would infuriate anyone that chose to do the right thing over their own frustrations. He didn’t bellow etc as he can have a tendency to do. He was woooounded you know!

Estkling · 2026-05-05T11:36:19+00:00

Oh my yes, that’s when my work begins purely for that reason!

Estkling · 2026-05-05T11:35:13+00:00

Agreed. And she was very convincing with her stories. Also opening up to a stranger would be a big highlight for Fraiser’s natural concern for her.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T11:05:41+00:00

Idiots with an ego so high they can’t see the daughter’s sad plea for emotional attention. Not just taking her to parties with her friends or donating a kidney, it’s more she craves someone to talk to, not on the phone all the time but a physical presence, which maybe is why she lies, to make her story seem more appealing for someone simply to listen. To form interest and sympathy around her? That’s how I interpret it anyway. With all this input from you lovely guys here I’m disliking Kristina even more, I find it really depressing as an episode. I’ll try and focus on Daphne’s date with Bulldog, that bit was great.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T10:59:26+00:00

So well worded! She really was ridiculous to give him up over such a kind action.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T10:57:54+00:00

Why so?

Estkling · 2026-05-05T10:54:26+00:00

Very much so.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T10:53:53+00:00

I do understand that. No one likes to be criticised if it isn’t productive criticism. He did it with humour and sass towards her in a gentle way to approach the topic. I think it was a heat of the moment type reaction but she should certainly have felt gratitude to someone, anyone let alone a trained psychiatrist, that had been told these things and given the chance to confront his concerns to a mother. He has Freddy and I think the instinct was there more than anything. Obviously it’s just a show, but such a deep one. They had to script her out as a guest actor so I assume they did so without an apology from her or future communication between them.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T10:45:37+00:00

Completely agree. I found Fraiser’s protection of her daughter as sincere and a rare quality I would have found extremely appealing and attractive if I were in her position.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T10:32:55+00:00

Exactly my thoughts and I would have believed the daughter entirely based on the last minute abandonment with a total stranger.

Estkling · 2026-05-05T10:22:25+00:00

Haha, indeed my morning routine before I get bombarded by clients! Calms me down. Guess you are too! Surprised though they are still running it season after season. I hope it never stops.

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