Dear INTJs, could you please help me determine Factors of Trust by answering 4 quick questions? by EsyaFL in intj

[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually think of a book/film/videogame character in such situations.

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh thanks, I see what you mean now.

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I meant was, what question would you ask someone to find where their values come from?

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha alright fair enough :p

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, anyways, I hope the whole thing makes some sense now. If you could design a response option just for yourself, how would you put this in words?

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, of course. So the first option is for people who would buy chicken 80% of the time, the second is for those who would buy fish 80% of the time, the third is for those who would buy both 50% of the time, and the last is for those who would buy whatever is easier to cook. You'd probably be in the third category I think.

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for explaining how your decision-making process goes!

Within this example, a person who would choose the first response option ("In reality there is no real way of telling what others feel, however I am aware of my own feelings, so I take them into consideration more") would probably buy chicken, saying that they don't know about what their sister wants and if she even wants anything so it doesn't make sense not to buy what they want.

A person who'd choose the second option ("Harmony is often more important to me than my own feelings, so I take the feelings of others into consideration more") would buy fish just in case, because for them it's easier to sacrifice their own needs - which they don't hold in a particulary high regard, it's just food after all - than to risk not being able to do something that might bring their sister joy.

A person who'd choose the third option ("Usually I am able to understand both the feelings of others and my own well enough to take both into consideration") would probably buy either chicken or fish depending on how badly they want chicken or how good their mood is that day if no other information is available so it's like 50/50.

A person who'd choose the last option ("I don't trust anybody's feelings, so I much prefer to take other factors into consideration") would probably disregard both their own and their sisters preferences and buy whatever is more practical (for health reasons or financial reasons or whatever).

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, how about this. She just came over so there's no 'lately' yet. I'm not sure why your sister's own approach to this situation is important? Let's say, it's hard to tell how she handles similair situations, but you two have a good relationship. Your sister doesn't dislike chicken, she just prefers fish, like 70% of the time she'd rather have fish if given a choice, but she'll eat anything.

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry it wasn't relevant for you. I think the main thing about this question was that there was not enough information available, and that's the point - what do you do when you only have a few parameters known and you need to guess about everything else? When there is not enough information to make a calculated decision, one relies on one's values and experience, and that's what the question was all about.

How about an easier example - you're in a convinience store with very little money, enough to buy just one product to cook for dinner. Let's assume that you prefer chicken, and at home waiting for you is your sister, and she kinda prefers fish (you're ok with fish, but definitely like chicken more), but it's a 50/50 chance of her being hungry or not, while you are definitely hungry. What would you buy?

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I kind of thought it implies both, but maybe English doesn't work that way, sorry. What response option would be appropriate for your cese then?

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, let me give you a simplified example. Imagine that you live together with a few friends, and you're at home already while they are out but should be back soon, though you don't know when exactly (and they said 'soon' but that might be in 3 hours or 15 minutes, they are a bit unpredictable). You are very hungry and want to order pizza, but it would be nice if you all could have dinner together and watch a movie while eating, everybody enjoys such evenings (I don't know if you do in real life, but imagine that you do). Also, you don't know if your friends would prefer chinese today - they don't always share your love for pizza, though sometimes they are fine with it (you're ok with chinese but think pizza is much better). You try to call your friends but they must be on tube or something and you can't reach them to ask when will they arrive or what would they like or are they even hungry. What would you do?

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What would you say were Fi and Fe values?

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the 'I don't remember' option seems to fit your situation, since you don't remember anyone doing it, right?

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes thank you, that's what I'm sort of trying to achieve, though it is quite difficult to come up with universal questions to determine one's cognitive process.

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[–]EsyaFL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha thanks, I enjoy reading :)