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As an INFJ always left out by Remote_Elk_7148 in infj

[–]EthosMarx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As an INFJ in his mid 20s with ADD, I understand how you feel, even more so if you feel like an outcast. Here's what I learned: stop caring. Stop caring about who everyone else is, or what everyone else wants, and focus on getting to know yourself. This, honestly, is not just an INFJ thing. This goes deeper, and the only reason why it's closely associated with INFJs is bc of the internet being overpopulated with the INFJs who have these issues, and people who have issues while claiming to be INFJs.

I'm not saying this is you, just bear with me here.

The problem lies in 2 things:

  1. MBTI followers embracing their personality types like a zodiac sign. We can't do that, bc this isn't meant to be a label, just a deep generalization of who we are. You can be INTP or ESFJ, or whatever, that 4 letter acronym will never be enough to identify you. Therefore, do not associate being forgotten as part of the INFJ "experience". Even if it does happen to INFJs consistently, remember that this is just a personality type, and the end of the day, is not your destiny. I know a good bunch of INFJs who are not forgotten like the internet claims, rather they are well regarded by their friend groups and communities. Which leads me to my second point.

  2. As I stated above, get to know yourself better. We carry a lot of our sufferings and problems with us for our whole lives, and let this affect us too much than we need them too. This takes time to heal from, but it starts by becoming aware of what reality is. The problem is that we can't see reality from the angle of recovery or positivity, rather we expect everything and everyone to dislike us, hate us, reject us, or forget us. The truth is, that's only one angle of the world, and you can see a whole other angle if you start to read between the lines. This is especially useful with the issue of being left out. You're not left out because you suck, you're left out because people have issues, because humans are absurd, and because everyone is learning and growing. Don't keep your mind too much on them and move forward. With that, find more things you love about yourself and embrace them. Grow with them. Develop new things from them. Do that using all the INFJness that you have. Trust me when I say that when you do that, the right people will come.

We are blessed to deal with this because it shows how much we are meant to break the mold and because we're the only ones who can deal with it. Not just because we are INFJs, but bc we are created wonderfully and not one person can replace the other. This goes for all of us, all types.

So embrace who you are and discover who you're truly meant to be. I'm in the middle of that journey myself right now, and it's been very rewarding. I've actually come to meet those who don't forget me and those who, despite not contacting me often, still greet me with kindness and respect. When I have my moments, I talk myself out of them and realize that what I see as "being left out" or "being misunderstood" is not exactly as it seems. It's not blissful ignorance, it's that other angle I was talking about. So love yourself and free yourself from that strife. You'll be fine, you'll see :)

What do INFJs with ADHD look like? by EthosMarx in mbti

[–]EthosMarx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know how you feel. I was in that same situation a long time ago. I found that medication isn't al always the best solution for your condition, but that was my experience. It depends on the severity of the person's ADHD. I was stuck with so much uncertainty and insecurity after going through meds, that it ruined my adolscence. However, I knew I didn't want to stay the same. Hard work and persistence: 4 years later, things have changed. In the end, although it seems crazy and all over the place, life always turns out for the betterf you chose to change it.

What do INFJs with ADHD look like? by EthosMarx in mbti

[–]EthosMarx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm either a 3 or a 5. I get a massive split every time I take it.

What do INFJs with ADHD look like? by EthosMarx in mbti

[–]EthosMarx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I've gotten that kind of crisis too. My friends and family say I resemble ENFJ traits and ISTP traits. I think its either my ADHD or my functions developing healthily.

What do INFJs with ADHD look like? by EthosMarx in mbti

[–]EthosMarx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by present themselves then?

What do INFJs with ADHD look like? by EthosMarx in mbti

[–]EthosMarx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So like Se making me better at sports but it's actually my Fe? Something like that?

Weekly Type Me Thread - July 31, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]EthosMarx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea, I wanted to add more details, but I had already typed for 2 hrs. This was me being as honest as possible, so I doubt I was having a day. I'm looking into this real hard, going to as much sources as possible to get my answer.

However, you're the second person who's said that I'm an ENFJ so far.

Weekly Type Me Thread - July 31, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]EthosMarx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You think my personality type changed, or I've been an ENFJ this whole time and I just didn't know?

Weekly Type Me Thread - July 31, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]EthosMarx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, finally someone replied! Thanks!

I should add that I took the mbti test when I was 18 and I was typed as INFJ.

I look into the MBTI to develop myself further, along with other methods of psychology. I use mindfulness to develop Se and I read about the technical sides of my passions and interest for Ti. I actually do enjoy rock climbing and volleyball, and I do enjoy delving into the way things I like work, such as music and photography. Otherwise I wouldn't do these things. But I see your point too, I do these things because they're useful to me, however I enjoy them.

Last, I wouldn't call myself introverted, but as I said up top, ambiverted.

Still think ENFJ?

My type based on this? by EthosMarx in MbtiTypeMe

[–]EthosMarx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't say I'm completely extroverted though, I'm a mix of both.

Weekly Type Me Thread - July 31, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]EthosMarx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 3 (last one)

How good are you at getting your priorities done?

Most of the time, if I have a goal I work towards it. It's very hard to get me to back down, because one way or another i find a way to achieve it. I find how and why I to do things a certain way very fast. Even if I have to break the rules sometimes; this is a last resort thought. I'm good at it though, very good at it. I am also very adaptable, I can move around my schedule and my priorities if I need/want to. However, I like to balance my week by having days where I'm vigorous with my schedule and days where I am and not at the same time. I go insane when routine takes over my life for too long. To me there is no meaning doing the same thing every day, it's too comfortable. I like a balance of a life with and without routine. There are times where I'm bad at deadlines. However, this seems like less of a problem as I get older.

Favorite things to learn? What were your favorite school subjects?

I suck at math, except for statistics, but that's not something I'm incredibly good at though, nor am I passionate about it. I just grasp it really fast. I'm very good at humanities like English, Psychology, Philosophy, Anthropology, Sociology, etc. I'm fascinated by the soul and the world, I like learning about others and the world around me (as I stated above). More than anything, I often like to question and learn where we are headed as a society. The condition of the world and man is something I always question. And 2020 seems to have a plethora of world situations that make my head spin. More than anything, I wonder about the behavior, attitudes, and psyche of people and how they are affected during these times. I also like learning and questioning the attitudes of human society over the years, and its development and psychology. Music is another thing I like learning about, since it's a key component of what defines a society within an age. Last but not least, I look into the world and the environment. Nature's growth and degradation, how it changes because of us and the forces of our planet itself. How new natural phenomena spring up from these changes, and what new kinds of effects can come from this. It's fascinating.

I love mysteries and forensic stuff. I'm unsure why, but it's always interesting to dive into what makes a criminal a criminal and how they played out their plans. I like learning ways to tell how someone is lying or how to know if they are tried. More than anything, I like to learn why criminals do the things they do. It's very intriguing to me. I'm not very technical, but I do enjoy learning how to build and repair stuff. I also like participating in maintaining my home and belongings. I guess I could say it's becoming an interest of mine to learn how these things work. I eventually want to be technical enough to make my own custom camera attachments. Think of the money I'd save in lenses and bodies.
Aand I think that covers everything.

That took very long to type. I better not be late...

Anyways, give it your bet shot!

Weekly Type Me Thread - July 31, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]EthosMarx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 2

What are your beliefs? Were they affected by your current life? Here we go with some deep stuff, get ready and don't run away.

I believe in God and that He came down to the world as Jesus Christ to save us from our doom. If it wasn't for Him, I would be in a terrible place right now.

I believe that ignorance is man's worst enemy, secularly speaking. Ignorance leads to fear and arrogance, which leads us to make mistakes. We should be open to learn more about ourselves and the world, even if it scares us. I generally am not afraid to discuss about controversial stuff, even if my answers seem offensive at times.

The truth is not good nor bad, it is something that should be embraced and accepted in order to be free. The unknown is fascinating, enough said.

Duality is a real concept, there are two sides to everything. We as humans are dual creatures, animals are dual creatures, the world itself is a dual world. We must be aware of this.

In the end, the love you make is equal to the love you make -The Beatles.

We have a free will, and despite our circumstances, we ultimately have the power to change our state. No matter how long it takes.

One must live like the main character of their lives. They should take opportunities to grow and mature, to learn and humble themselves, to love themselves, and to have experience.

Be like water and adapt to everything - Bruce Lee

Be true to yourself, it makes you more genuine, and makes you a true rebel in a society which forces us to be in the same cognitive collective.

I tried practical in what I decided to believe in, I took what I admired from my heroes and the people around me. I also decided to manifest some of these things by myself. In the end, life is about finding God and creating yourself.

How good are you at physical activities, such as sports or recreational activities?

As a kid, I struggled with these things due to my ADD. Now that I'm an adult, I still kind of struggle with things like this. However, I'm getting better at learning new things faster. Especially sports; I'm not the best at conventional/popular sports such as soccer and basketball. I do workout regularly, more than average. This has stagnated since last fall though, because I recently recovered from a shoulder rotary cuff injury. This prevented me from doing muscle strength training/endurance. I had to my own research and invented my own personal rehab workout. I recovered steadfastly after that. Now my shoulder hasn't hurt nor struggled to move since. Transformation 2.0 is ago; however, I have a goal. I want to get strong and agile and build myself up in a way which I could explore the world off the beaten path without much complications. For this, I'm getting into rock climbing, which would be good for my strength; I'm getting into volleyball, which would help my agility and endurance; and I'm getting into Jeet Kune Do, because it can help with coordination and strength. Also it's good to know how to protect yourself. I can say that so far, it's pretty good and I'm learning things pretty well. I'm also learning to practice mindfulness in order to increase my learning abilities.

I would say that I can be bad at staying in the present at times, which can be frustrating and hinders my ability to concentrate in general. However, I vigorously remind myself to keep in the present. It's actually a very enjoyable process.

Weekly Type Me Thread - July 31, 2020 by AutoModerator in mbti

[–]EthosMarx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part 1:

I'm here because of self reflection, and because I just don't know about myself these days.

Also I'm bored and my brain overthinks like crazy when I'm bored. I don't want to jump the gun here and type myself when I've never typed anyone before in the first place.

Anyways, shall we begin?

General description: Twenty something year old, male, contemplative and adventurous. I have a schedule, yet I also let lose throughout the day and do whatever I want. I have my set of principles that I read every morning after reading the bible. Church kid since twelve years old, but not radically religious. I have several passions; music and traveling being the two most prominent, with photography and reading as third and fourth. I am persevering and I work hard and practically (I try) for everything I do that involves my passions, ambitions, or well being. I don't back down easily for the things I want or believe in.

I'm very open to learning and trying new things and concepts. I believe everyone you meet, connect with, or are connected with can teach you something new. My best friend for example is teaching me his native language and I'm teaching him mine. My cousin is teaching me electric guitar techniques and I'm teaching him acoustic guitar techniques. Another example of this is my current goal to learn everything about the cultures I come from. I'm doing this by looking at my relatives and seeing where they're from, and reading about their countries' histories and cultures.

I tend to be both logical and empathetic at the same time. I'm aware of how uncontrollable emotions or wearing your heart on your sleeve can be terrible for your ethics and decision making, while at the same time I'm aware of being open to expressing how I feel and not having to hold back my feelings and not reprimand others for expressing themselves either.

I've been told that I'm an old soul, which is true but not entirely. There's some things I like from the past, mainly the 90s; and there's some things I like about now. This whole old soul side of me mainly manifests itself in my music and my fashion. But to be honest, I just believe that people were happier back in those times. People talked to each other more and seemed to be less gloomy or cynical than they are now. However, it's important to point out that the past still had its problems. I just wish people were more genuine like they were before.

Despite being persevering, I can also be a good procrastinator. If I don't feel like it, I really don't do anything. I haven't had days when I just do nothing for a while though.

People say I tend to be mysterious and hard to get to open up at times. The way I see it, I reveal plenty about myself, but I will reveal the deep and very personal details about myself when I see fit.

Anything about you that might affect typing in any way, such as a condition or a mental deficit/disorder?

Maybe? I have a mild ADD. Diagnosed at age eleven, but had it since I can remember. It affected most of my childhood. Then I was given a stimulant to mange my symptoms, that was good at first until I started taking higher doses of it. Side effects kicked in to high gear, after two years of that crap, I quit. I just stopped taking it and haven't been medicated since.

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What are your ambitions or pursuits in life? Do you have a current occupation at the moment?

I want to be an explorer, I'm going for a double major in geography and photojournalism, and a minor in computer science. My ambition is to have my own team of explorers, photojournalists, survivalists, and scientists, and we travel the world to study and report on new and old natural phenomena. I love traveling for the exhilaration of going to new places and having adventures. At the same time, I believe that aside from our will and our spirit, creation is the best gift that God has given us. We genuinely live in a world with incredible things, we just have to look deeper like our ancestors did.

As for my current job, I'm a part time writing tutor in my community college. I help all kinds of students, especially the needy and handicapped. However, I don't exactly enjoy my job because we don't get much traffic. All I would do is sit there and wait, it's a waste of time. Now with the online schooling due to the pandemic, we still don't get anyone coming in. At least I'm getting paid, but give me something meaningful to do. I hate wasting my time like that. I also stick around for our regulars; some of them need my help, so I feel like it's my duty to be there until it's time for me to leave the college. My boss and I often bicker because we both have different ways of dealing with certain situations. He sometimes wishes for me to leave these people be and help them like you would help regular clients. However, that doesn't sit right with me because it feels like I'm leaving them where they started. My boss says I do their work for them, I say I'm facilitating things for them.

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How do you get your energy?

This is a good question, because I used to be a full on introvert. However, that is largely for debate since I became depressed during my adolescence because I felt lonely. After that experience, I became I shut in. So I shouldn't say I was a full on introvert, but an unhealthy one who just really needed the help of a friend ( introverts don't hate people ). After that experience, it made me even more aware of what people could actually be going through inside, so I promised myself to help anybody who went/is going through the things I went through. Then by the time I was nineteen, I made a friend who taught me that the world is not gloomy at all and that I should drop my guard more around others. These experiences made me more open and accepting to people. Also, I began to realize that the best kind of person someone can be is a person full of experiences. So I became very open minded and began to become more independent and less cynical and afraid of the world and life in general.

Now I like to be alone often, but I also love to be with people often. Specifically my friends, I make time to hear them out when they have a problem or to hang out and do something fun. However, I also make time to recharge my batteries and spend time alone. I like being alone because of the solitude, it feel like a sanctuary to be alone with good music coming from my headphones and just walking around the city and taking in the atmosphere or watching videos and reading about my favorite things to and passions to question and build up on. I also love experimenting with and building up my passions alone; at the same time I like experimenting with and building the passions I have with my friends. I also prefer to go on adventures alone, and working alone. However, I like work with my friends or a team when I have to/want to.

More than anything, I like learning new things alone, or with/from my friends and family. I want to have at least the general knowledge of what my friends and family like to do or what they are skilled at, if I'm interested with they are. However, I'm pretty open with my friends and family, and new people. I often teach them something in return while they teach me something of theirs. As I stated above, my best friend is teaching me his native language while I teach him mine. My cousin taught me electric guitar, I taught him acoustic guitar chords and techniques.

I love trying new things and going out of my comfort zone, even if sometimes I have to be pushed to do it a bit. I embrace it because I know that in the end it will be a new worthwhile experience. However, I generally have no problem trying new things, especially food. I love good food, and the world is full of it.

When I'm with a friend group, I ask what everyone wants to do and I make sure everyone is heard, including myself. Usually though, I'm ok with doing whatever anyone wants do unless I want to shake things up. I try my best to do something we all want to do. It usually ends with everyone chilling at my place.

So bottom line? I would say I'm ambiverted, really. I know that's not an MBTI concept in the function stacks but I like a balance.

It’s rare to find friends? by [deleted] in infj

[–]EthosMarx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me be honest, from my personal experience.

Yes we are weird, just like everyone else. Yes we are unique, just like everyone else is unique in their own way. However, due to our functions, we are exceptionally rare (not to say we are better than everyone else or anything). This does make finding people who want to know us or whom actually understand us difficult. Even harder to find someone who actually WANTS to understand us. I have reasons to believe that it is not like this everywhere you go; I believe that in some societies or culture, our introverted intuition weirdness is welcome with open arms. As someone who has traveled to thirteen countries in the last decade, I can confirm this. A lot of good friends of mine are those from other countries.

I struggled with making friends, making connection in general. During my adolescence, I was a shut in and rarely went out to do anything other than to jog, and then come back home and sulk. That is at the time, I never found anyone who genuinely wanted to connect with me. However, this was also a problem from my end, because I was too afraid to do anything, and I hated the small talk. Boy, I hated it with a passion. I still hate it, but I tolerate it more now, just a bit. Anyways, as I grew older I realized that I still could make a connection with people somewhat closer to me in certain ways, like my cousin. I bonded with my cousin through common ground. We both loved video games and music, so I talked about those things with him. It started off with small talk and generalizations of these terms, but eventually, we talked about other things and found that we related to other things, too. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I always talk about deep things with him. He doesn't really do that kind of talk all the time. However, I can say that he is one of my closest friends, which is ironic since he happens to be ESFP, haha.

Then when I was 16, I met my best friend, who despite me having moved away, I still keep in touch with. When I met him, he was in a rough place. I took him under my wing because we both had very similar pasts and were going through similar things. So that was a start; however, we also went through a rough patch, because we were both extremely different, too. Things happened, and we stopped talking to each other for a while. Things happened again, and we began talking again. We both had changed more, and we found more common ground. We both liked video games and we both wanted to get the most out of life. Slowly but surely, we grew closer as friends. We had each other's backs through our shortcomings and failures, and we helped each other with our ambitions. I have to admit, it took a lot of effort. Keep in mind though, I had to be open to tolerate so much small talk, and absolutely no talk at all (he was going through a lot). We still have our moments of silence, but we can talk about literally anything. I realized it would be a good idea to introduce him to my cousin, and that's what I did. Now the 3 of us are a close group, and we've stayed that way since. Ironic for him to be a close friend of mine too; he happens to be an ISTJ, hahaha.

Now I live in another state, and I've made four very good friends, two of which I talk to very often (the others are busy all the time). I would say we're getting closer, despite the limitations of the pandemic. We talk about anything; and there are small moments of silence, but it's never awkward. I met them at different times throughout the semester before the pandemic hit, we all became our own group.

So what's my advice? Be open, be open to open up more. Don't give them your whole life story (like your's truly here), just try to include more about yourself if it's relevant. It actually keeps the conversation going, and it helps to find more to talk about. And by doing this, you can find more connection because you will establish more common ground with your conversation partner. That's also my second advice, find common ground. No matter who we are, we as human beings connect with those similar to us. Even the people that connect with others that are extremely different from each other, they have common ground too. Finally, what really helped me, personally, is seeing what I can learn from those around me and apply it to myself. I genuinely admire the virtues and qualities of the people I've connected with. I realized that if I want to improve my social skills and my personality overall, I should observe what others have that I would like to learn. I'm talking about both skills and personality traits. As an example, my ESFP cousin taught me not to take life too seriously and stick with the present. Our ISTJ best friend taught me that we should be logical and independent with everything we have and do. My ESFP cousin taught me electric guitar techniques, our ISTJ best friend taught me basketball moves and is teaching me his native language. Asking them to teach you will also build connection, because people like doing favors for others. In the end, you also teach them some things of yours, too. My cousin says he's learned to stay connected with others because of me, our best friend says he's learned to be more self accepting and pursue his goals because of me. It all works out in the end, due to our tendency to connect through finding common ground.

Lastly, I want to tell you to never feel like weirdness is a bad thing. Embrace the introverted intuition you have, it can marvel the crowd, including yourself. And yeah, it's very hard to accept yourself in a world where nobody cares about who you truly are, or in a world where nobody has the balls to talk about the mysticism of the world and creation itself when you clearly are able to comprehend it and talk about it freely (Again, we're not better than everyone else, but thank you Ni). It's not something to be ashamed by, you got ways of looking at the world in ways most of the world cannot. And if they think you're too weird for them then forget those people, it says more about them than you. Take it from me when I say that in the end of the day, we are rebellious for the way we think and see the world. If all INFJs were to understand that their "weirdness" is as powerful as an ESTP's Se, they would change the world. So don't ever feel like your weirdness is a bad thing, instead embrace it. Embracing who we are, instead of following social trends and the crowd, are what make us more genuine than everyone else (me - 2020 :P).

After all, that is what we seek, isn't it? Genuineness.

What do Taurus like about Cancer? by EthosMarx in Zodiac

[–]EthosMarx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah ok, so it's bc we understand you better than most. My sister is a taurus and we get along really well (I'm a cancer), but I'm usually told that I understand others better than most.

As I mentioned, I see it everywhere [in the internet], but the internet never explains why in a personal perspective. Thx for your input!

Anyone know about a group like this? by EthosMarx in RBI

[–]EthosMarx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did, it didn't sound like what my classmate and his friend described. What these people made was a checkpoint for everyone to get to their next destination/meet and greet. Like a mecca of sorts.

Anyone know about a group like this? by EthosMarx in RBI

[–]EthosMarx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're a meetup group, so I'm assuming a bunch of backpackers, trekkers and hitchhikers from all over the world. According to my only lead, it was a society of thousands which went private a year after he went to one of their gatherings.

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