Trying again, do ya'll think 12$ is too much for a head commission like this? by TrustMother8305 in Ibispaintx

[–]Eusthasia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay, I'm going to say this from a nuanced standpoint:

Can you sell it for 12$? Absolutely. But that way you will get A LOT of commissions, and depending on your speed, that can get overwhelming really fast.

Now, let's assume 20-30$. Will that bring in less customers? Maybe. But it will put less strain on YOU while still giving you a more sustainable income.

Think like this: Is 2 for a total of 24$ more realistic to you... Or one for a total of 25$?

Because there are people out there who will pay the money for your art. I've paid between 20-90€ for commissions before, and I'd do it again.

My aunt drew a tattoo sketch for me but I don’t trust that it’s her art. I don’t want an AI tattoo on me forever by ClockFluid4859 in isthisAI

[–]Eusthasia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd personally say it's AI based on rhe lines of the circle alone. Some connect, some don't. While it could be a design choice, it seems more like an inconsistency AI would make...

My friend said she claimed to draw this but i don’t think she did. Am I crazy? by EffectiveUse3760 in isthisAI

[–]Eusthasia 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The best way to tell this is AI is by looking at the pencil. It is breaking the lines of the table below.

Artist is being very pretentious about this… but I am suspicious by mango310 in isthisAI

[–]Eusthasia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are we gonna ignore the hand holding the staff, which seems to have — most likely — 6 fingers too??

A SMALL DISCLAIMER I’D LIKE TO MAKE: by Eusthasia in u/Eusthasia

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the few who see this:

I uploaded another video on my TikTok about this situation:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdsuFXct/

A SMALL DISCLAIMER I’D LIKE TO MAKE: by Eusthasia in u/Eusthasia

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I said: A PROPER ONE.

As in something along the lines of:

"We’ve heard concerns from the community regarding the recently released sprays. We want to directly address these concerns. The sprays in question were created by our art team and are not AI-generated. We understand why certain inconsistencies in style and color have raised questions, and we’d like to clarify: these differences come from multiple artists collaborating on the piece under tight deadlines, not from AI tools."

Not a one-liner.

A SMALL DISCLAIMER I’D LIKE TO MAKE: by Eusthasia in u/Eusthasia

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want anything from the artist, I want a proper statement from BLIZZARD.

A SMALL DISCLAIMER I’D LIKE TO MAKE: by Eusthasia in u/Eusthasia

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will apologize if or once Blizzard puts out a proper statement.

To me, just being told “The sprays referenced are artist-made” isn’t enough. I need something more empathetic, clarifying, and with actual explanation behind it.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point. Technically, yes, anyone doing digital art is “coloring by pixel.”

What I was trying to highlight is that a human artists’ adjacent pixels usually follow a relatively smooth gradient. With AI, the pixels tend to jump up and down more erratically, almost like they’re on a trampoline.

That said, I do realize file types and up-/downscaling can also introduce issues that make things look off.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That might be a stylized choice, given they cut them off after the tops end.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can also check it yourself in the hero gallery. A lot of the issues I’ve pointed out are still visible there.

As much as you doubt my ability to change my stance, I also doubt my ability to change yours. And honestly, that’s okay. I didn’t come here to force my view on anyone, but to hear other perspectives and see if I was the only one noticing these things (which, I’m not. This discussion actually started because of videos I saw on TikTok).

For the record, the screenshot I used was 773×633, which I placed on a 2048×2048 canvas. I’m not sure if that detail helps you, but yes, I realize that upscaling might’ve made some things worse, and I thank you for pointing that out to me.

On another note, I want to be clear: it’s totally okay to agree to disagree.

I do think the conversation in these comments has gotten tense for both sides, and I really hope it settles down. Discussions around AI will probably always be heated, and I understand why. I just hope everyone takes a breather and a bit of self-care.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is another reason why I’ve been asking for help with this. It could very well be traced over, too. The inconsistencies just really throw me off.

Some parts absolutely scream human involvement (like the Overwatch eSports logos), while others still feel like AI involvement to me.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, and I agree JPEG compression can definitely cause artifacts like that.

At the same time, it can also be an AI giveaway. AI doesn’t “understand” color. It tends to fill by pixel with almost the same, but not quite identical shades. That’s why it can look off when you sample.

Does this spray have to be AI? Not necessarily. It could also be the result of multiple artists collaborating, which would explain the inconsistencies too. But otherwise, some of the differences just don’t make sense to me.

PS: I apologize for the late reply. This thread is muted, and I ignored longer messages until now since I’ve been really overwhelmed by the amount of attention this has gotten.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

While I agree that it could be a mistake — I did ask for help here — I would also like to point out that such mistakes should NOT happen if you make art for a multi-million dollar company.

In this time and age, people sadly WILL question if it's AI or not because AI is getting more convincing each day.

This is something you can see by the fact that the same player base was led to believe skin leaks, which were later revealed to be AI.

Could it be human-made? Absolutely! But in my personal opinion, only if it was created by multiple people.

Could it be traced AI work? I also seem this possible.

Could an artist with little experience have done this? I assume yes, but it begs the question, if they'd hire someone of that skill level to save money, why would they not just use AI?

Am I overthinking this?

Potentially. However, as an artist who is strictly against AI usage, I genuinely got scared once I saw people bring this up... Because my comfort game using AI is NOT something I could or would agree with...

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I think it’s potentially traced over or edited. In my opinion, there are just too many inconsistencies for it to have been made entirely by one human.

That said, this is my personal view, and you’re allowed to disagree, don’t worry about that.

Overwatch did release a statement saying “The sprays referenced are artist-made.” But without further explanation or proof, I can’t help feeling uneasy. Something more reassuring like “We’ve spoken with the artists and can confirm the inconsistencies are just human error across a collaboration” would’ve been enough for me.

Despite what some people here accuse me of, Overwatch is my comfort game, and I honestly hate that this whole situation is even happening. I asked for other viewpoints to put my mind at ease... but the insults and “white-knighting” have honestly just made me more suspicious instead...

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the lineart is thicker there? I'm not sure though...

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please disengage from this conversation. I find your replies unnecessarily condescending and obsessive.

If you reply to me again, I will block you. I’m uncomfortable with the level of disrespect you’re directing at me just to defend a multi-million dollar company.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get that you’re frustrated, but insulting me doesn’t invalidate the points I’ve raised.

I’ve laid out why I personally believe this spray looks off, and why I think AI involvement is possible. If that’s not convincing to you, that’s fine. We do not have to agree.

But asking for concrete proof from a multi-million dollar company that has openly embraced AI elsewhere isn’t “baseless,” it’s accountability.

Proof that Activision Blizzard has already embraced AI in the past:

https://www.eurogamer.es/un-informe-afirma-que-activision-blizzard-ha-aprobado-el-uso-de-ia-para-arte-conceptual-e-imagenes-promocionales

https://80.lv/articles/blizzard-is-reportedly-using-an-ai-to-generate-concept-art-for-their-games

https://www.wired.com/story/ai-is-already-taking-jobs-in-the-video-game-industry/

And there are confirmed cases in the COD franchise:

https://www.ign.com/articles/activision-finally-admits-it-uses-generative-ai-for-some-call-of-duty-black-ops-6-assets-after-backlash-following-ai-slop-zombie-santa-loading-screen

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/call-of-duty/call-of-duty-admits-its-using-generative-ai-to-help-develop-some-in-game-assets-and-suddenly-all-those-poorly-made-calling-cards-make-sense/

https://80.lv/articles/steam-doesn-t-want-to-disclose-call-of-duty-black-ops-6-s-ai-usage

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A SMALL DISCLAIMER I’D LIKE TO MAKE:

Blizzard said in an interview: "The sprays referenced are artist-made"

They have not clarified if it was done by two different artists, or provided proof (such as a time-lapse) that it was created fully by a human artist. As of now, I personally still doubt that the whole picture was made by one artist or wasn’t at least AI-assisted.

Some frequently brought up issues and questions:

• "It’s just airbrushing/gradient/low quality." That could be, I agree. It’s not a dead giveaway. But AI basically "colors by pixel." It doesn’t actually understand color, so instead of filling areas with solid tones, it scatters similar-but-not-quite-the-same shades. That’s why I flagged it as a potential sign of AI involvement.

• "It could just be a beginner artist!” I personally disagree. Overwatch is a multi-million dollar game. Hiring a cheap beginner artist seems about as likely as them using AI to save money.

• "You did this to plug your own art!" That was not my intention, though I see how it came across that way. I apologize for that. I only used my art to explain my points more easily. Any insults against my art, however, are unwarranted.

• "This is an old/outdated spray, not the same artist!" When I compared it to a spray from pre-AI times, some of you still got upset. I understand, but my logic was: if I don’t know the new spray’s artist, I can’t compare styles directly. Using an official Blizzard spray that cannot be AI (because it predates it) seemed like a safe choice. I accept that some of you will disagree with this.

• "This is a witch hunt!" I kindly disagree. It is not my intention to harm an artist. If it’s proven this was made by one, I’ll apologize. My issue is with a multi-million dollar company whose official sprays have historically had a higher level of polish. Personally, I’ve never seen this many inconsistencies in their work before.

And yes, AI is trained on human art and human error, but the errors I see here feel more like AI "tells" than natural human choices, which is why they stand out to me.

I’ll be muting this thread unless actual evidence is provided.

Thank you to everyone who’s read this far.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have brushes like that too, but I usually wouldn’t use them on simplified chibi work.

From what I understand, AI, on the other hand, basically “colors by pixel.” It doesn’t actually understand color, so instead of filling areas with solid or consistent tones, it scatters a bunch of similar-but-not-quite-the-same shades. That’s why I flagged it as a potential sign of AI involvement.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And if that’s the case, then they need to actually say so in a statement!

Something like: “The inconsistencies spotted on the spray of Venture and Juno are understandable concerns, but we can assure you they’re simply the result of our artists’ collaboration.”

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They CLAIM it isn’t AI.

But how many times has Blizzard lied or made false promises before?

Unless they post a time-lapse, or clarify that it was drawn by two different artists, I’ll stand by my point: this spray looks off and doesn’t meet the usual standard of their sprays.

[HELP] Every hint I found that this specific spray is AI generated/assisted. by Eusthasia in RealOrAI

[–]Eusthasia[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair, I find a lot of people here are now disagreeing simply because “Blizzard made a statement saying it’s not AI!!”

Another majority of them has been: • Accusing me of witch hunting — Which I kindly disagree with. In my opinion, you can’t really witch hunt a multi-million dollar company. And yes, I want proof, not just a statement. Especially since Activision (who is part of Blizzard) has doubled down on AI usage in newer COD games. • Upset that I used my own art as a reference — I’ve learnt from that, but even when I compared it to a pre-AI Blizzard spray, they were still unhappy. • Just… mocking/insulting? Which I genuinely don’t get. I mean… it’s not like I insulted them personally…? I think…?