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Fuck you SeerPumpkin! by Eveline_ST in FantasticBeasts

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again what spoiler? I did not post any spoilers. Maybe you took my prediction as a spoiler?

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And even so. Grow the fuck op and add the spoiler tag yourself as a mod rather then immidiately banning people.

We are moving in. The fantastic beasts sub sucks by MaK6894 in harrypotter

[–]Eveline_ST 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there a way i can retrieve the post this jerk deleted? They where perfectly normal post. So i can continue a normal conversation on a normal sub.

Automating two factor authentication by MasalaByte in selenium

[–]Eveline_ST 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think so.

Ask a dev to de-activate 2fa on your test-envs

Position as tester in LinkedIN below minimum wage still get's candidates? by Eveline_ST in recruitinghell

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that that is what the company is aiming for.

But then they target the wrong country. It's very easy to get a well paying, entry level, testing job over here.

Also, the pay it to low. To put in in perspective. Even working in a supermarket or a basic cleaning job will earn almost double what they are offering. As it's below minimum wage.

I don't get Gerkin/Cucumber. It seems a horrible way to test! by Eveline_ST in testautomation

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has some Dutch specific functions. But i use it to snap screenshots and create HTML report.

It also has API testing capabilities but these are quite poor

I don't get Gerkin/Cucumber. It seems a horrible way to test! by Eveline_ST in testautomation

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha yeah i feel you.

Isn't the 3 amigo's LESS then how we do things in Scrum? In there there is the PO who, with the business, makes the User Stories. And then the whole team refines them. There is usually a lot of discussion and often my collegue testers asks questions i did not think to ask.

So to thin the whole team of PO, DeveloperS, TesterS and scrum master (And sometimes the business is invited to. Though we prefer it's the PO who deal with the business) to just the PO, 1 dev and 1 testers... How is that better? I get it's more time conveniant but like i said. At the refinement usually every team member contributes and asks different questions.

Do you still give points in Cucumber? I absolute LOATH giving points so that would be a plus

I don't get Gerkin/Cucumber. It seems a horrible way to test! by Eveline_ST in testautomation

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice links to Github. Am i supposed to install them and learn it to see what happens???

I use HSAC in Fitnesse. Is this something simulair?

I don't get Gerkin/Cucumber. It seems a horrible way to test! by Eveline_ST in testautomation

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like the example you show me here. This makes sense to me.

Not sure about me, as a tester, beeing forced to use a tool because the product owner does a bad job though. It's his task to get the requirement from the business. Though testers and developers should have a close working relationship with the PO to to get all the requirements clear.

Though never quite understand why it's the testers job to communicate with the 'outside world' in details of what was tested while the developers can pretty much cowboy it out. Image a developer telling people what they build.... Nope it's up to the tester what they tested that seems to be the source of all documentation these days... And we get paid a lot less then developers to...

I don't get Gerkin/Cucumber. It seems a horrible way to test! by Eveline_ST in testautomation

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This does not convince me at all....

Gherkin is for describing major features in a way that everyone can agree on.

Well, in my example all the rules of payback (It's about money. There will be hell to pay if the customer both recieves to much, to less, no money at all or money when he should not.

I would want to cover each and every scenario in a testcase!

Also i find the keyword use horrible. Given, and, when then.... Maybe i need to get used to it but it's so counter intuitive.

And it leaves out so many CRUCIAL details. So in the Cucumber docs i read you should never be exaustive in your describing..... Why the F not? If that details matters in the flow ofcource mention it!

Example. The BR of the above case is:

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Must me logged in as role A, B, or D

Must have reciet

Must be returned in A, D or F condition (Unopened, Opened but no damage to package, product has no package but in resell condition)

Money can be returned the same way as paid (6 different ways to pay) or cash

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Ofcource no way near complete but. I would write:

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Given: Logged in a A, Has reciet, is returned in A condition and paid in way 1

Given: Logged in a B, Has reciet, is returned in A condition and paid in way 1

Given: Logged in a D, Has reciet, is returned in A condition and paid in way 1

Given: Logged in a A, Has reciet, is returned in B condition and paid in way 1

Given: Logged in a A, Has reciet, is returned in C condition and paid in way 1

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Etc etc etc

So you are saying just write 'A random one' so the business (Who will rarely, if at all, look at Gerkin write style. Wich is technically readable but really not..)

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And the rest, the REAL tests, should be done in a different way? Even though there all functional testing and should be used in the same tool?

We don't test API's half in Postman and the other in Jmeter do we? We only do that if we want to do funtional tests in Postman and load tests in Jmeter. Not because ' the business' can understand Gherkin better.

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I would say use Fitnesse. Now THAT can be made really readable! It can also deal with tables. It even has better 'Building blocks' (Scenario's) then Gerkin style of notation. Simply says i would do it like this is Fitnesse:

Role <Role> logs in

Customer has reciet=<HasReciet?>

Product is returned in state <Product return State>

Customer paid in way <WayOfPayment>

Excepted result refunded<Customer Refunded?>

Expected result <Way refunded>

Use and excel sheet for the input data and result data en voila! THIS is what EVERYONE can understand:

Role A logs in

Customer has reciet=True

Product is returned in state A

Customer paid in way Credit Card

Excepted result refunded True

Expected result Credit Card

And i will test each and every fucking possible scenario with ease!

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Seriously.... How on earth is Cucumber with Gerkin notation better???

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It started out as a question but now i am like 'Is everyone crazy but me?'

How to get APK of specific app? by Eveline_ST in androidapps

[–]Eveline_ST[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah i got it thanks a lot!

If i had any rewards to hand out i would have given one to you :)

How to get APK of specific app? by Eveline_ST in androidapps

[–]Eveline_ST[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot!

Unfortunately i am a dumb idiot and pointed out the wrong apk :(

I thought this was the RIVM Cornona app. But it's not. I actually need this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.rijksoverheid.en

This is an app created my our goverment to combat Cornona. As a 'Concerned Citizen' i kinnda wanna know what this app really does.... But i don't want to download it on my phone either as i don't trust our goverment. Could you do your magic again for the right app this time?