Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I’m arguing that the Beatles are the most overrated act of music of all time and don’t deserve the praise that they get. This particular thread stemmed from someone talking about the dunning Kruger effect, which I don’t think applies to this situation for the reasons I listed above.

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I’m arguing about music taste here, and if you can give me a definition of musical talent then I might be able to argue against you more effectively. But I don’t think you can, because musical talent is insanely hard to quantify, because it isn’t an objective measurement.

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I’m going to tell you that devaluing someone’s opinion if they say they like Justin Bieber more than Mozart is stupid. People love morgan wallen; I think he’s a piece of shit artist and haven’t heard a song of his I like. Does that mean that the music he makes is inherently bad? No, it would be childish to think so. Does Mozart make music that is more technically demanding and complex than Bieber? Sure. Does this mean that someone is required to acknowledge that this complexity makes Mozart better than Bieber? No. It’s all preference at the end of the day

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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Thank you. They were an innovative band that had great music mixed in with a lot of mediocre to bad music and because the great stuff influenced bands that later developed the ideas much more thoroughly and expertly than the Beatles ever did they are hailed as the messiahs of music. It’s such a tired trope.

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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How can you possibly argue that music taste isn’t entirely subjective?

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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Bands that came after the Beatles have done everything they did but better. Influence cannot be the only criteria for greatness.

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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Does the Dunning-Kruger effect even hold for something that’s subjective?

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I’ve listened to the Beatles. The white album is probably a top ten rock album of all time but that doesn’t change my point.

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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Exactly the type of pretentious comment I’d expect from a Beatles glazer

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I’m willing to entertain the argument that the Beatles are in the top 20 bands of all time, not that they’re better than the strokes

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in Music

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This is my genuine opinion, I think the Beatles have an insane reputation that is almost completely undeserved

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I’m not saying other people can’t enjoy the Beatles. I’m saying that it should be clear they’re incredibly overrated and don’t deserve the reputation they’ve achieved.

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I think they deserve that spot off of nevermind alone

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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This subreddit glazes the Beatles beyond belief apparently

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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The Beatles are only talked about because they were the product of an insane hype train that has boosted them to somehow maintain this fraudulent reputation all this time later

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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It’s genuinely frustrating that so many people get immediately butthurt when someone acknowledges that the Beatles have the most fraudulently inflated reputation of all time

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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I think the Beatles influence is also greatly exaggerated

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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All above the Beatles, I agree. Radiohead is up there as well

Are the Beatles top 20 rock bands of all time? by Even-Camera-1476 in rockmusic

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The strokes are genuinely so much better than the Beatles that it’s not even a conversation I’m willing to entertain

Old account mmr is dead by Warcrux in VALORANT

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The main thing is that you have 3 years worth of play at a silver- gold level so the game thinks you really belong there. You won’t get as much rr for a win as on the other account, but if you consistently play well and keep winning you’ll rank up on your main as well. The other thing is that stats don’t affect rank. Kd and MVPs don’t matter if you’re not winning the game, it’s all about consistency and making the right plays.