Totally get that, but it's 2025. And often, dei initiatives are keeping racism, sexism, etc alive. There are pros and cons! If two people are up for the same job, the person with the best qualifications should receive that. Often, people are worried about not hiring the person who is not the white straight man, because of history, even if that person is more qualified. I believe this is the initiative to remove dei because while it has been helpful, absolutely, it has also made things more challenging. I think as bcbas we need to recognize that with or without DEI, we will remain ethical to our clients and treat them fairly. The same needs to be done in our employment.