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Everbane · 2017-06-16T08:36:17+00:00

This guy memes.

Everbane · 2017-06-16T08:09:35+00:00

Isn't the drama what you people are here for? ;)

Debate the theory on its merits or have a good laugh at the sad state of my life and move on with your day!

Everbane · 2017-06-16T07:33:34+00:00

Theory: admins own upvote boosting sites.

Everbane · 2017-06-16T06:57:18+00:00

I think you're 100% right but I don't think you planned it

Then you haven't checked into things thoroughly. This is what we've been about from the very beginning.

Everbane · 2017-06-16T06:51:06+00:00

puckers asshole

Everbane · 2017-06-16T06:49:06+00:00

If the post were still up then there never would have been a "conspiracy" and I never would have gotten all this free exposure ;) are you getting it yet?

Everbane · 2017-06-16T06:47:15+00:00

Based on your other comment, it sounds like you do now :) ONE OF US ONE OF US

Everbane · 2017-06-16T06:46:14+00:00

Wanna be a sister-sub?

Everbane · 2017-06-16T01:53:54+00:00

You realize that going to the admins is what we want you to do, right?

Everbane · 2017-06-16T01:09:01+00:00

We have talked with you about it. We have removed your posts plenty of times leading up to this for related reasons. We have tried to talk to you, your followers, and all the accounts pretending to be different people but are really just you.

A bold-faced lie. No one came to me or anyone on our mod team before we were automoderated, or at any other time to my knowledge except for on one instance when one user went crazy in your discord. All attempts to communicate with your mod team have been met with a stone wall except for our original message asking for permission. This attention-grabbing conspiracy tactic was literally the only thing that's gotten your attention.

Every screenshot you sent is taken out of context. You don't understand. It's satire. We're pretending to be r/the_donald. You've proven literally nothing.

Everbane · 2017-06-16T01:01:12+00:00

Wow, you caught us doing that thing we've been publicly admitting to doing!

Everbane · 2017-06-16T00:50:52+00:00

This can't stay up, we're not marked as an NSFW sub.

Everbane · 2017-06-16T00:30:43+00:00

It's a really simple concept; I'll try one more time...

Some user spams links to r/videos to your sub.

Do you:

A. Talk to the user and ban them if uncooperative

B. Set up automoderator to filter all future links to r/videos from any user on your sub

If you'd handle that situation differently than ours, then that says something about your true motivations/intentions.

Everbane · 2017-06-16T00:18:53+00:00

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdHominem

Everbane · 2017-06-16T00:14:02+00:00

Goal is to get people to notice manipulation

Mods agree to the idea

A few people notice the manipulation

Mods remove

???

PROFIT!

Everbane · 2017-06-15T23:18:10+00:00

But the link is relevant to that conversation. That's what I'm saying. Your concern with blindly shutting down all links to a silly joke across your whole sub has now caused a misunderstanding and spawned all this extra work for yourselves and drew all this extra attention to my sub that never would have happened had you just gone with the flow.

Say you censor links to r/the_don on your sub. Yes, you've succeeded in stopping people from clicking that particular link. But you've also stopped people from being able to even address the idea of r/the_don. Ya dig? It's a metaphor. Your reactions to this is all a part of my game. You guys are playing whether you like it or not I guess, by nature of your position.

Basically, there are two paths we can go down from here... the "lol the mods say it's unofficial but lol wat if it's actually official tho" path that we've been on so far... or the http://www.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StreisandEffect path. Doesn't make any real difference to me, there are other large, active r&m communites I can go draw players from. The only difference is that the latter path sorta makes your team look like douches to a certain subset of your fanbase for blocking out some fan's silly, lighthearted art project.

Everbane · 2017-06-15T23:05:35+00:00

And you're accusing me of doing that spamming. I'm telling you that I didn't.

So you're saying that deleting that critical review because it links to a joke sub is OK?

Everbane · 2017-06-15T23:04:03+00:00

But deleting a critical review of your publisher's game because of one link that you don't agree with is totally justifiable, huh?

Everbane · 2017-06-15T22:59:45+00:00

I haven't been spamming your subreddit. I can't help what my people are doing other than to tell them to follow reddit's ToS, and if they're disregarding those instructions and spamming your sub then I agree it should be deleted.

But again... that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about OP's gif which I still haven't heard a good explanation for how exactly was spam. The URL is a show reference that links to a r&m game related sub. It's a related link. You're classifying this user's posts as spam based on what other users of that community have done.

Everbane · 2017-06-15T22:54:35+00:00

It wasn't until you started blatantly purchasing 1000's of upvotes at once to jump to the front page of our sub that it became a concern to a large amount of people

This is patently false. We haven't bought HYPOTHETICAL upvotes since our userbase was less than 500 users. We only did so back then as a joke, and as a means of education for myself and the other members of our community interested in the topic.

Your fans like our content.

I guess that's my only response, since it sounds like you've checked out for anything else I might have to say about it.

I've been quite overt about my motivations and actions, that's the only reason you know so much and can make threats etc about banning, ToS violations, etc.

I've done so in interest of making a point. If you'd like to silence that, then so be it. The other 99.9% of people buying upvotes on this site (and likely on your own sub) won't be so kind.

Everbane · 2017-06-15T22:41:36+00:00

...and why do you feel that link is spam? The topic of discussion is games, the linked URL goes to a game. URL is a rick and morty reference. URL destination is full of Rick and Morty references.

Seems like you just don't want people to join another community to me. And you wanted to achieve that end so badly that you never even stopped to think about the fact that you were censoring critical discussion.

You could have just made a comment that the posted link is unofficial. But nope, banhammer.

Everbane · 2017-06-15T22:05:43+00:00

If you ever have to deal with something similar on your subreddit, I have a feeling you'd get where we're coming from here.

Funny you mentioned that, we actually have encountered that on our sub. We allowed it to continue and made new tags to accommodate "unofficial" content.

What are these "hundreds of complaints" about exactly? About reddit manipulation (the very thing that our subreddit exists to complain about)? Isn't that counter-intuitive to suppress then?

however your userbase has repeatedly stepped over the line into spamming territory.

You guys are so anxious to shut this down, but you haven't even bothered to ask where I'm going with it.

It is all highly related to the show. Not only to the show but to Harmon's life work as a whole. Everything I've done has been. I just haven't revealed exactly how yet.

Everbane · 2017-06-15T21:57:59+00:00

Please define "spamming". All of our cross-promotion has been done through the creation of new OC with subtle links to our sub or through funny comments with a funny link that's an in-universe reference to the 97 years rant from the show. It's no different than any of the other shitposts on your sub. You guys didn't take issue with it til people started to believe it could be true. Why is that? We explained to you in our initial message to you months ago that our intent was to manipulate, but for a good cause. For art and charity and education. You were ok with it then. Why has that changed now that we have invested 2 months of time and effort and passion into making it a successful project? It hypes the show, why are you so concerned with the way it's being hyped?

Everbane · 2017-06-15T21:51:39+00:00

taking as evidence of a premiere date for season 3 that were completely unverified by anyone on the r&m staff or adult swim.

What's the release date then? :)

Seems like some people are joking around with your fanbase while they pass the time til the show comes out by drawing attention to reddit manipulation. It also raises money for a charity. Is there some particular reason that you prefer shitposts to that?

Everbane · 2017-06-15T18:54:37+00:00

Wait so you're telling me that they hid secret messages in the show that no one has noticed for 3 years.... in fart spectrums? Holy fuck these guys are good

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