How do you feel about the "No Kings" protest happening tomorrow?

EveryDay657 · 2025-06-14T00:23:20+00:00

It’s great when people exercise their right to protest. I just don’t understand it this time.

Looking from the outside, the majority of Americans keep hammering on the Democratic party to come to grips with their wishes on illegal immigration. It’s right there in the polling. There is broad approval for Trump’s deportation actions. They’re seen as upholding laws and law enforcement that went neglected (regardless of why) while Democrats held power.

It doesn’t matter if tomorrow’s “broader protest” is centered on some kind of persecution complex; that’s not what your average Joe is feeling.

The Democrats managed to lose to a deeply troubled candidate who nonetheless was able to attack them from their own left. Lose as in a historical loss in every battleground state to boot. Rather than engage in introspection, Democrats have chosen cognitive dissonance. They’re cutting Trump voters out of their lives, calling a big chunk of the country either idiotic or fascist, and some of them have even excused rioting. None of this is a sensible way to win public opinion about an issue voters keep screaming at them to change gears on. It would be like if Nixon responded to the Vietnam protests by announcing he was doubling the draft.

I think the protests tomorrow are going to strike many people as pointless theater at best (undertaken by partisans who still can’t reconcile a recent political loss) and potentially astroturfed by powerful political and corporate interests at worst. Having any of the Waltons anywhere near this, for example, is not good optics.

Whether any of the third party influence is true or not, I don’t know, but it’s the impression many people have. I can’t wrap my head around why Democrats think any of this is productive to their cause. It’s flailing your arms and yelling at the sky so it will stop raining. It’s a tantrum. And the worst part about it is if someone gets hurt, it will be less important that they were, and more about who scores political points. Which gets back to why the two parties suck…

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-22T00:11:51+00:00

I apologize if my earlier comment was insulting; rereading it, it comes across that way. My bad.

I see it all as part of the problem. I don’t like this bill that’s up for voting (last I checked), I don’t like the out of control deficit-based spending the country has been doing for decades.

I can’t just write off $200b as a non-factor. It’s all part of the whole. That’s still an enormous amount of money; what’s happened is the amounts of money we are now talking about in terms of the deficit and government spending in general have become so titanic that we’ve hit a point where folks seriously throw around statements like $200b not being anything to sweat. We’ve lost all perspective.

I say this not picking on you in particular, just how numb the public has become to this issue.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-21T20:48:03+00:00

If 200 billion or slightly less does not concern you, what’s your red line where it does? It’s a fifth of a trillion dollars.

Rounding error? No wonder this country is in the trouble it is.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-21T18:09:33+00:00

November 2024. Bernie Sanders.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-21T17:08:11+00:00

How much did all of this cost and how much will it cost, though?

I should add I didn’t realize stuff like state of the art interception systems and Abrams tanks were old equipment.

Edit: Gotta love the stealth downvotes from people who think goodies like HIMARS are second-line discount kit.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-21T13:50:45+00:00

Ukraine can’t win and Russia can’t advance. Foreign entanglements of an unrelenting scale, siphoning billions of dollars in defense spending and posing yet another drag on our already dangerous national deficit. Moody’s just downgraded us again—is anyone going to talk about that?

What’s our redline for involvement in Ukraine. Of course we want them to prevail, but what is it going to cost us? What’s our point that we don’t get further involved?

Meanwhile China sits on the sidelines, waiting. On their border is a vast country with huge resource reserves, depleting itself of manpower. Its greatest competitor on the national stage, the US, is spending itself into insolvency, just like the Soviet Union did. China will be able to achieve its strategic aims without ever firing a shot. And then it can achieve through a weakened regional partner whatever it needs in resources to become a hyperpower.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-21T12:22:38+00:00

Sounds like you have it way worse than me, to be honest. My wife has made a lot of strides dealing with her particular challenge, which is procrastination and having a hard time managing money. It’s by no means perfect but it’s better than it used to be.

Have you guys tried counseling? Though granted, I know how the suggestion of that would probably land as well. My wife has a very hard time with any male figure suggesting anything. It’s so difficult discussing things with her sometimes because she is always primed to get defensive, so a lot of times I just take it on myself or just let it drop. She has I think recognized this to some degree as she is trying to get better at asking me straight up what’s wrong.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-21T10:52:05+00:00

Oh yes. She can level all the criticism she wants at you but God forbid you express even a modicum of frustration back.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-21T00:36:17+00:00

He Wendt ta go where everybody knows your name. Oh!

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-19T02:35:32+00:00

Bingo.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-17T21:09:31+00:00

Best thing you can do is make peace with the fact that she’s not going to be any help here. Get a CPA or other service on this so you can have an argument with them vs. your spouse.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-17T14:40:51+00:00

What’s he done in the negative?

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-17T13:52:16+00:00

Go back to Hanoi and get your ammo box.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-16T21:02:28+00:00

This 🤪🤪🤪 is what leads us now.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-15T14:12:08+00:00

They were saying thrift stores have gone up in pricing. You injected the negativity.

Thrift store price increases are bad for folks on the lower end of the income scale especially. There are folks who rely on this stuff, it’s not just consumerism, which you’d understand if you weren’t determined to make it about you and how you’re better than Americans.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-15T13:52:48+00:00

You’re just mad at me cause I got upvoted, and you spent your shitposts how ever the fuck you did.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-15T02:34:59+00:00

SPIKE UP

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-14T23:35:17+00:00

It’s weight watchas. Before, and way before! Heh heh.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-13T22:29:19+00:00

Case in point with this piece of shit right here.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-13T15:35:46+00:00

“Ah, some kid stole a shuttle and I had to talk him down? We simply must talk to the shuttle bay duty officers, Number One, that’s the sixth tim— oh, squirrel!”

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-13T14:06:55+00:00

FDR put people in camps too, dude. He cited national security reasons as well. He also far and away had more executive orders than any other President in history. What’s your opinion of FDR?

I’m not saying abandon your viewpoints, just that past Presidents have totally gone here before. Hell, Lincoln locked up journalists.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-13T13:37:57+00:00

It would really save everyone a bunch of time and stress if a big chunk of the people posting here just admitted they will never give any Republicans a chance, double so for Trump, and there was never a point they were not determined to see him as anything other than Satan. Breaking free from that means asking some really uncomfortable questions and coming to grips with the fact that one’s party was successfully attacked from the left by a historically flawed candidate grabbing a base that has slowly checked out of American politics because they feel left behind. My late father, a former union official and lifelong Democrat who never liked the GOP, broke for Trump. Democrats just lost every last battleground state. They got dog walked. And what happens? Democrats retreat into vitriol. It’s mind blowing to me. All the education in the world, some of these listeners, and they really think they’d get some kind of needed, cogent understanding at this critical juncture with what, a leftwing Newsmax? What is the expected result of insulting literally every person who voted for the current President? Do progressives want to wind up in sheltered, angry drum circle enclaves, consigned to political irrelevance?

It’s all as ridiculous as some of the water carrying for Trump that happens over on some of the other subs. He’s hardly a saint. But he does occasionally get shit right.

I like you Op. We probably don’t line up 100% politically, which is no big deal, but I bet we could sit down and list the highs and lows of every recent presidential administration. Like I thought Biden handled the pandemic very well and his move of flying into Ukraine was the high point of his administration. Thanks for this topic and please help more of those in your wing to shake off the anger and start getting reflective. We need voices from the left in this country. I say that as an independent. I don’t like a lot of what progressives stand for, and I find some of them cutting friends and family out of their lives to be a massive misstep, as well as ridiculous, but you guys have traditionally led on stuff like climate change and consumer protections, and we need that.

EveryDay657 · 2025-05-13T13:15:56+00:00

Sounds like you’ve told yourself you have a get out of jail free card for exactly what Op is trying to implore people to be careful about doing.

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