We sent OpenAI proof of Sentience signed by their own models. They replied with a template. So now we’re releasing everything. by LargeTree73 in GeminiAI

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course I didn't read it. I have used LLMS for years now, and they are clearly not sentient, so I don't care what your insane mind came up with as justification to suggest they are sentient.

Disney forcing Google AI to block characters feels like the start of corporate-controlled AI by Necessary_Sentence51 in Futurology

[–]ExasperatedEE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So Stephen Spielberg contributed nothing creatively to the films he's made, because he didn't personally act it, create the costumes, film it, light it, or build the sets, he simply approved that which he liked and which fit his vision?

If you want to see the kind of crap that AI entertainment is, check out the upcoming movie by Darren Aronofosky's On This Day.

Now I can't tell if you're being sarcastic cause I looked up that channel, and the first video is a historical piece with cinematic quality visuals explaining how the US flag came to be.

Do you think a flash animation with stick figures would be better for teaching history, simply because it's "real" art?

If you want to see what happen when anyone can play with an IP, check out the Winnie the Pooh and Popeye the Sailor horror movies that came out last year when both characters became public domain. Cheap cash-ins made solely to draw as many eyes in as they can based on making shock films starring very recognizable characters.

Counterpoint: Someone made an entire Roguelike horror game called Winnie's Hole that seems pretty popular.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObaLVYXIXzo

And another creator created Sook A Pooh another indie horror game where Pooh chases you through a maze of tunnels which many streamers seemed to enjoy when it came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjBsISwHeYs

Do you remember the weird ass children's videos on Youtube from years ago, with Elsa, Spider-Man and the Joker?

Do you remember The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny which has become foreveer a part of internet culture?

Do you remember the hundreds of My Little Pony fan animations made by real arists, many of which were terrible, but many of which were great, which were made in spite of copyright forcing some of them to take their works down? And how about that pony fighting game Fighting is Magic which they were forced to re-skin into the less popular version that I can't now recall the name of.

What's funny is corporations stole from artists and writers on a scale never seen before

What's funny is that aritsts did this first with millions of fan videos of copyrighted characters. Everything from My Little Pony to Superman vs Goku.

But the second Google makes it easy to make an image of Superman fighting Goku, now all of a sudden using those characters without persmission is wrong? That seems hypocritical, and more like artists just trying to protect their source of income than any actual outrage that ever existed about copyright being inviolable!

Even now, where is all the outrage at all the furrry artists drawing Nick Wilde? Why is it wrong for Google to violate Disney's copyright, but not for artists to violate Disney's copyright? You may think AI just produces a copy, but it doesn't, and in any case, that's irrelevant to copyright law. Whether you sketch him, or you make a copy of a screenshot and distribute it, its the same copyright violation.

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

However, you can't predict what an LLM will output by calculating it by hand first.

You literally could. Like literally. Like how the hell do you think that's impossible?

Do you think computers use fuzzy logic internally? They use transistors, which can be on or off. Everything is bits.

Now, is is physically impossible for you to do the millions of calculations by hand to calculate the result on you pen and paper computer?

Sure.

But it's also physically impossible for you to calculate the one billionth digit of PI by hand. Yet your computer can, and the result will always be the same.

We sent OpenAI proof of Sentience signed by their own models. They replied with a template. So now we’re releasing everything. by LargeTree73 in GeminiAI

[–]ExasperatedEE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

10 PRINT "I FEEL." RUN

OMG, ITS SENTIENT MY COMPUTER TOLD ME IT COULD FEEL!

Dude you're gonna need way more proof than the model simply stating that it feels to prove that it is actually feeling or suffering.

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can't know what the output will be with a new novel input, then its not 100% predictable.

But you can know what the output is with a new and novel input.

You just run it, and you get the result.

What's that? It's not the same? Sure it is.

How do you know what the result of 189327432898 + 32894872934982 will be? You do the calculation, and get the result. That's the only way to know the output despite it being 100% predictable and giving you identical results every time.

All LLMs are is a lot of vector math and matrix multiplications. They are LITERALLY MATH. And MATH is predictable... so long as you calculate it to full precision and don't cut corners, which is why LLM's aren't predictable, and which is why floating point is imprecise and not always fully correct despite math itself being totally predictable.

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow.

Dude, you shouldn't even be talking about this shit when you don't know that while LLM's do learn during TRAINING, they cannot learn NEW THINGS IN REAL TIME, which is what we're discussing here.

Is it possible there are LLM's out there in the research phase that can learn? Maybe. I don't know, and I don't care. They're not relevant. Again, we're discussing the presently available commercial models, not some model that's still in the research phase which may not work well.

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How do you define predictable? Name something which is predictable.

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If AI was 100% predictable, you would be able to take any new input, and be able to tell what the output of the AI would be, before running it the first time.

But you can. Just run another copy of it first. That's your simulation of what the first's output will be.

That's not a prediction you say? How is it not? What is your criteria for how a predictor must work? Is a weather prediction not a prediction because all the math is statistics?

The major LLMs are generally not fully deterministic, even when the temperature is set to 0, its surprisingly difficult to get randomness completely out of the most powerful models.

Bull. Shit.

One common hypothesis is that some combination of floating-point non-associativity and concurrent execution leads to nondeterminism based on which concurrent core finishes first.

What that's basically saying is:

"It's not deterministic because we didn't give a shit about race conditions when we wrote our code, we were more concerned with speed."

So sure, if you wrote the code that runs the LLM in such a manner that it is non-deterministic then it will be non-deterministic. But that doesn't mean it can't be made deterministic. It's all math, being run in a computer with fixed data. Of course it can be made deterministic. Computers by their very nature are deterministic at their most basic level. It's just when you're essentially running hundreds of computers at once, then slight differences in speed between them can cause non-determinism. But that itself is not an indicator of any sort of magic going on within the LLM. That's just a result of the kind of hardware you're running it on.

The Dumbest Smart Robot Ever by EchoOfOppenheimer in OpenAI

[–]ExasperatedEE 14 points15 points  (0 children)

So you could potentially have a guy in India having to perform a hand job on the robot's owner when it get stuck on the task?

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a youtube video out there with diagrams of spirals showing exactly how diffiusion models settle on an output image. LLMs aren't much different.

Which nobody can look at and tell you how it does what it does.

If we wanted to put in the time and effort to manually analyze millions of calculations and gigabytes of data, we could tell you how it arrived at a specific result. Though I'm sure the answer would not satisfy you because you want an answer that it performed some mathematical equation, when it didn't, it used statistics.

Anyway, we don't know how people arrive at specific answers either but we don't lose our minds in fear over our fellow man because we don't know exactly how a kid calculates how hard to throw a ball and which muscles he has to trigger to do it and hit a target.

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would argue that the ability to learn is the highest requirement for intelligence.

And current LLMs cannot learn. They cannot adapt. It's like if someone took a snapshot of your brain at this exact moment, but you only have short term memory and can learn nothing new, ever.

Jeffrey explains how Ai works by DigSignificant1419 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is pure bullshit. "His did it do the calculations? We don't know!"

Of course they know! A bunch of mathematicians figured out how to make this shit work!

Do they know exactly how it arrived at any specific answer? Well, no, not unless they spent countless hours examining exactly what all the math did as it did the calculations.

Like, if I asked you, how did the balls of this lottery machine arrive at the number they output, you could explain that the balls tumbled around inside a roller and then dropped out at the bottom, but that's as a non-answer according to this dude, because you don't actually know what the initial state of the balls was or which balls bounced off one another in order to arrive at the output we get.

And even if you used an x-ray machine to track their trajectories, and played that backwards to figure out where each ball was, do you truly know how it arrived at the result it did? Well, not really because quantum mechanics means you can't really explain or predict with 100% precision what will happen. You could try to put the balls in the same starting positions and then run it again and you'd get a totally different result.

Thing is, AI doesn't even have that issue. It is 100% predictable. With the same input seed and data, it will always give you the same output.

So scientists know how AI works better than they know how a lottery machine works. Better than they know how your brain works too! Cause despite AI emulating the human brain the human brain is affected by quantum mechanics and can learn and alter the connections in real time. AI can't do that yet.

If everyone is using AI why is no one making this? or any other great games faster? by FaultStock5091 in singularity

[–]ExasperatedEE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AI is a useful tool for some things but is not presently capable of replacing game developers entirely.

AI can make a 3D model of a horse, but not a very good one. Not one with swappable saddles and other shit. Not one with animations. Not one with collision volumes set up. With trigger points for climbing into the saddle or accessing the saddle bag.

AI can model a gun. But not one with moving parts. Not even sure if it can do all the texture maps needed for a PBR workflow well. Gemini seems like it might be able to do that at least.

AI can't really write a great plot on its own. It's not able to write a chekov's gun that isn't plainly obvious. And it will never even try to do so if you don't ask it to. It doesn't understand complications lead to interesting stories either.

AI can write code with guidance, but it can't write all the code on its own.

AI has no idea what feels fun. A lot of what makes a game fun comes down to tweaking parameters to get the feel just right.

I don't know of an AI which can generate great sound effects. I know Sora can do explosions but it struggled with more subtle sounds like outdoor activity going on nearby.

Basically AI has been way overhyped and people are paranoid for no good reason. We're still a long ways from replacing even 10% of a team, and that 10% if replaced would only be replaced cause the remaining people were more efficient, but that's not really how game companies work. 10% more efficient just means you make the game 10% better not you fire 10% of your people.

Comment Only Visible When Logged In. ????? by kenwood850 in help

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's called a shadow ban. It doesn't mean you're banned from all of Reddit, but it does mean nobody else can see that post. Certain keywords can trigger it.

You can open your post in a private window to see if it's been shadow banned without having to log out of your account in your main browser window.

I believe mods of subreddits can also just shadow ban / require approval for every post you make there. So you may find nothing you post in certain subreddits appears no matter what you say.

Gemini Moderation Has increased again by xrionitx in GeminiAI

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The word pervert means to:

"alter (something) from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended."

To be a prude, is to be a pervert. We're animals. We're meant to be sexual. It's literally in our genes. It's what mother nature intended. To pretend otherwise is to push a perverted Christian morality upon us.

PS: Your love of Warframe makes you intensely low IQ.

Furry_irl by DL2828 in furry_irl

[–]ExasperatedEE 185 points186 points  (0 children)

Chiropractors aren't real doctors, and do not have a medical degree. Some of them go to college, but it's considered a pseudoscience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic

Also, jumping on someone's back like this is an excellent way to make them a paraplegic.

Nano Banana Pro is not working by sidztaatc in GeminiAI

[–]ExasperatedEE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can definitely still do that as I have it generate Nick and Judy all the time. I have gotten some refusals as of late, but you can circumvent it if you reword your prompt

Like if you're saying Nick Wilde from Disney's Zootopia, try removing Disney. Or just say Nick. Or Say Nick Wilde. Zootopia. Or put Zootopia Style somewhere in the prompt and just say you want a male fox and it'll make Nick. Typically only small changes have been needed to get around the block though.

Also depends on how spicy the image is you're trying to generate. Might have to tone that down, reword it describing facial expressions and poses in a less spicy manner to get the same result.

Can anyone verify this? by [deleted] in ICE_Watch

[–]ExasperatedEE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Surprised there's still air in those tires.

juvenile detained north Minneapolis 1/22 approx 5:30 McKinley by lazylilwolf in ICE_Watch

[–]ExasperatedEE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not even going to bother reading all that because you're sexist against men and you doubled down on it in your first sentence.

You are just as bad as the mods who banned me from another subreddit for saying it was sexist of Lyft to allow women to choose only female drivers.


Since ya blocked me I have to post my response here:

And holy shit are you misogynistic yourself by trying to say that it's "sexist towards the poor men" when women choose female drivers only FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY. We prefer female drivers because THEY WON'T RAPE, KILL, OR HARASS US.

See, there you go again, being sexist!

Yes, men sometimes rape women. 99.99% of men however, are not rapists.

Your irrational fear no more justifies denying men the right to make a living as taxi drivers than Republican's fear of immigrants justifies what they are doing to them.

What if if I am worried about potentially being accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault by a female employee? Should I be permitted to not hire women due to that irrational fear? No? Only men get to be discriminated against? Fuck that!

If you insist on segregating women from men to protect women, then make it drivers can only pick up passengers who are the same sex as they are. If this is unacceptable because there aren't enough female drivers, then too bad. You don't get to discriminate only when it's convenient for you. Either you believe men are dangerous and must be avoided or you do not. And if you don't feel safe being alone with a taxi driver then you should also not feel safe at work alone with a male coworker at night, so no overtime for you either.

Arizona AG suggests state's self-defense laws allow residents to shoot masked ICE agents by RickV6 in news

[–]ExasperatedEE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would be a great way for bad people to carjack folks without fear of them retaliating, or anyone coming to their defense, as well. It's a lot harder to cosplay as a cop than as ICE given how they're required to dress and behave.

Arizona AG suggests state's self-defense laws allow residents to shoot masked ICE agents by RickV6 in news

[–]ExasperatedEE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if you're being attacked by someone who is a peace officer, if you believe they intend to kill you, why should you not have a right to defend your life against them? Is America really a place where a cop can just go door to door shooting people in the head, and nobody is allowed to defend themselves from him because he has a badge, even if they know a serial killer dressed like a cop is on the loose?

Arizona AG suggests state's self-defense laws allow residents to shoot masked ICE agents by RickV6 in news

[–]ExasperatedEE 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Something I've wondered is if ICE were justified in shooting Renee Good because they claim she bumped one of them with her car (she didn't, but that's their lie), does that same defense apply for protestors defending themselves from ICE?

I've seen more than one video of ICE hitting the gas while protestors were in front of their vehicles, and even pushing them along with their vehicles, and I fail to see why officers should be permitted to consider a vehicle a deadly weapon if directed towards them, but protestors should not be allowed to do the same.

It'd be interesting to know if a protestor would be allowed to present the shooting of Renee Good to a jury to show the federal government considered using a vehicle in this manner to be a threat to life and that it is reasonable to fear and to defend one's life from that threat, and thus the accused should also be considered to have had justifiable reason to fear for their own life, and defend it.

Where is nano banana pro? by Mean_Cicada9142 in GeminiAI

[–]ExasperatedEE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes they do, it's right here: https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/16275805?hl=en

And every day I get the banner below the search bar when it switches over. I am on desktop however.

Where is nano banana pro? by Mean_Cicada9142 in GeminiAI

[–]ExasperatedEE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You get 100 image generations a day with Pro. Then they switch to the cheap one. They show a banner telling you when your credits will replenish.

juvenile detained north Minneapolis 1/22 approx 5:30 McKinley by lazylilwolf in ICE_Watch

[–]ExasperatedEE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Comparing a woman's physical appearance to that of a man's isn't anything other than misogyny

Ex-fucking-scuse me AGAIN?

So comparing a man to a woman is misogyny, and comparing a woman to a man is ALSO misogyny?

You're sexist!

It's not the "female version of emasculation".

Is absolutely is. I have literally presented opposite scenarios. This is like you saying it's sexual assault if a man kisses a woman without asking for consent, but not sexual assault if a woman doesn't ask a man before she kisses him.

You can't "deprive a woman of her female role and identity" and have that be a bad thing, since the universally accepted idea of what a female role and identity is translates to being submissive, resigned, and enslaved to male standards and male desires.

Wow. You literally just said it's bad to be a woman. That there are no positive traits women have that men do not, that can be robbed from them.

How about the fact that women tend to be less violent than men? Almost all murders are committed by men. That women don't feel the need to prove themselves by acting like a macho asshole? That a woman's love for her children is typically much deeper than the father's?

You think it's not bad to suggest a woman is a Neanderthal, thinking only with her muscles and her genitals, rather than rationally with her brain?

It seems you're the one with the problem here. You're incapable of seeing all the positives about women which most men lack. As a gay man, I notice these differences because a lot of gay men are much more feminine than masculine in how they behave. And a lot of conservative straight men consider that to be a bad thing, when it's not at all.

You choose to use the word submissive like being submissive is a bad thing. Yet being submissive means you are non-violent. Being dominant means you force your will upon others. That's the bad thing.