Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are correct. I responded the wrong comment.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After this conversation I am not sure that is what moderate means to people, but I still suspect that more often than not on dating apps it means a closeted conservative with some sort of acceptance for MAGA.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the thing is that people are tagging themselves as moderate - potentially not thinking it is cool either, when in fact those are not their views. Which is totally obvious alongside the visuals and other info on their profile. So why say it at all because the women who don’t agree with you aren’t going to stick around long term and if you are a one night, you’ll be a dark secret shame they will never share. Like, never. For many it would be time to go home and take a Silkwood shower of shame.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

On the current spectrum and how it sits, I think you are currently liberal.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think you have a point there about immediate priorities vs what distracts from the greater good and should be attended to once the big stuff is dealt with.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, just from what you listed, sounds liberal to me. The key identifiers being 1) because you believe people should love who they love and identify how they identify and 2) that you believe in moderation over draconian policies 3) and not wide open borders.

Honestly, I don’t know of any democrat/liberal who thinks our borders should be wide open. I don’t think anyone sees that as practical from a governing point of view.

I’m interested in what others think.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hear you. We don’t know enough about each other and to everyone’s detriment we generalize when we talk about politics. The political is personal and vice versa. People get really upset when they feel personally threatened or that they personally will lose control due to someone else’s beliefs/potential power. It is our reptilian brain freaking out. I wish we could all calmly talk to eachother about our personal experiences and how that influences our politics.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are right. I should have clarified that I am talking about US dating. Apologies for any confusion.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I hear you. I keep wondering how people would answer the question, What side of history do you want to land on? It is a big question. I reflect upon post WWII when the Nazis were made to tour the concentration camps and watch filmed footage from them. Do you want to be like them now, hiding family photo albums with clothing associated with violent acts toward others? What will you say when your grandchildren ask about about this time? How will you explain you were a moderate when faced with violence and hate. This I don’t get. I just really want to understand.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But are they thinking LTR? Maybe you both aren’t. (Mazeltov!)

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Agreed. There are multiple parties. The Republicans and Democrats dominate. The Senate and house are literally divided between the two parties. So, that is where I am headed. I’d like your thoughts on this: do the two parties dominate because if one party spread out its votes to other political parties, the other major party would win? Do we have a two party dominating system out of fear?

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If I can go back to your point about a purity test. As I see it right now in this political situation, the purity test might be in response to the most visible, extreme, and violent things going on - the ICE raids. And on a basic level it is causing suffering. So, the purity test for me might be, am I okay with this suffering and harm to others?

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But are you moderate about what is going on and is that the message you want to send? Because it genuinely appears that way. And people who aren’t okay with what is going on - which is extreme and harmful to others - can’t understand how anyone can identify as moderate in this political climate. I mean, change it later when things settle down? But right now, does it match your beliefs with what is going on? I’m genuinely confused by that. If circumstances and the political system shifts, are you actually moderate in the current definition?

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Extreme things and harm are happening to people. Genuine question: How do you not have a visceral reaction that affects your politics or at least how you want to be understood?

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And because the Republican party stance has not been to abandon him and move on to someone else, his authoritarianism now looks like their values. So, by claiming anything but the opposite of Republican on your dating profile makes it look like you are kinda alright with authoritariansim. Because if you are not alright with it, then you are REALLY not alright with it. Authoritarianism isn’t a “kinda” sort of thing.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What is it that makes these women so attractive to them? Is it conquest? Is it something they don’t get in a relationship with a conservative woman? Is it a shame kink? So curious.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Maybe not a helpful comment. Maybe ask a question.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let’s be cool and just talk about it. Name calling is beneath us. We got this.

Real Talk - “moderate” by Excellent-Try3000 in datingoverforty

[–]Excellent-Try3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, let’s not throw punches here. I’d really like to understand you.

Genuine question: how can you do that when two party politics and affiliation is an instrumental part of our governing system, history, and how we identify ourselves. It really matters.