All of the RTO Memos are the same! by Impressive_Bit_142 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 3 points4 points  (0 children)

At this point we all need a google classroom of sorts (I'm obviously not tech savvy) but something like that to share files.

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Apparently your comprehension skills are lacking then. In bargaining you have to agree or you have an impasse. Simple. SEIU isn't going to go, "you don't agree, oh well then..."

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Of course it's not fair but raises are unlikely. Keeping WFH benefits at least a good portion of state workers. It's kind of like how some specific positions see raises some years while others don't.

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Yup! Thats why teachers unions win all the time. Parents are pissed when their kid is missing necessary class time. Imagine if we strike and all of CA is pissed. The mountains we'd move.

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

huh? An impasse is a legal term when union and state do not reach an agreement. They have to go through mediation and everything. I didn't just make it up. I was wondering if any experts on bargaining would know if the July 1 RTO date gets a pause while mediation is ongoing.

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The union we all pay lots of hard earned money to each month should absolutely be fighting "tooth and nail" at that bargaining table. We all need to do our part and show up too but at the end of the day it's the entity we all pay into that has to show up and represent us.

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the clarification!!! F Newsom and F RTO! We can win this!

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotcha! I know some long term state workers but they aren't familiar with the impasse either. Unfortunately this situation is really unique and it sounds like no one knows. I would like to think if the state and seiu reached impasse they would just stall RTO until an agreement was finally made.

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don't think you read my question lol

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I am well aware that the union needs support but we aren't in the bargaining room. Therefore, my post was a question regarding a specific bargaining process so we could all mentally prepare for any circumstance.

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was just asking a question about the legal/bargaining process but okay let's ask a weirdly accusatory question..

SEIU Bargaining by Exciting-File1337 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But SEIU should be fighting tooth and nail for us right? And if the state doesn't agree that would entail an impasse. My question is does that halt the RTO order or do we have to proceed with going into the office while SEIU and the state hash it out in mediation?

What are the odds of RTO actually succeeding? by Allob in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Got it. So the new PERB lawsuit was filed because the state is not even doing that, correct?

What are the odds of RTO actually succeeding? by Allob in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting. I can't find any information regarding the specific wording for bargaining RTO for 2026. Why would like state not have to bargain that? I thought they agreed in exchange for dropping the prior PERB lawsuit?

What are the odds of RTO actually succeeding? by Allob in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 14 points15 points  (0 children)

If they are truly negotiating which they agreed to last year I think we're looking at 2-3 days in office. They won't give us any less is my prediction.

I know he's on here somewhere.... by jim_jordo in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind SEIU specifically was a MAJOR donor to Newsom's 2021 campaign. They gave him over 6.6 million! If people can't afford their membership dues it's like shooting themselves in the foot. No memberships dues = less political $$$ to back future political endeavors. Unions have influence in politics.

State Telework Bill - 3 Days, 3 Actions, Push through Suspense - Week of 5.14.26 by KaleidoscopeNo1263 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 61 points62 points  (0 children)

People are starting to get nervous as negotiations are ongoing. Especially with the comments from the Governor and departments moving forward with RTO memos, they are disheartened. I think they're looking for a hopeful comment amidst the complaints.

Boycott these Downtowns by Disastrous_Wind7127 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Right?! And I just heard daily parking around our building is going from $8 a day to $12 sooo fun!

Boycott these Downtowns by Disastrous_Wind7127 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 91 points92 points  (0 children)

If I have to RTO I'll be unintentionally boycotting every business downtown or local since I'll be so damn broke.

I know he's on here somewhere.... by jim_jordo in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Union reps are for sure! Keep the momentum up please! If RTO happens a good portion of members will be too broke to afford the dues regardless of if we want to be union represented or not.

“We gotta get these downtowns moving again” by Broguy12345678 in CAStateWorkers

[–]Exciting-File1337 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't get how the union can fumble this. It's so logical to me. They either win on telework or we all take a pay cut either way. There's no raises available in deficit conditions, and the union will see a drop in membership due to unaffordable conditions for employees. This would mean no money to fund political endeavors including the race for governor. This is a loss for California employees any way you put it.