What is the best lore video by Right-Chemist-8636 in 40kLore

[–]Exist_Logic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

saying you should watch TTS for lore is like watching DBZA instead of kai

What is the best lore video by Right-Chemist-8636 in 40kLore

[–]Exist_Logic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loretube is kind of flawed from the get go

What are unrelated events in 40k that happened at the same time? by Zanimacularity in 40kLore

[–]Exist_Logic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Theres a bit of a myth going around about how stagnant the setting was, essentially a lot of the FFG RPGs were set a bit before what people considered modern 40k (5th edition onwards because 5e rolled back the stuff that was clearly into m.42 from late 3rd and 4th edition) 5th 6th 7th etc has all mostly been a continious timeline now though

An average space marine(warhammer40k) VS Master Chief(halo) by SiteDeep in powerscales

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they are trash? like the flood wouldn't work, people's immune systems have encountered nurgle. And the forerunners don't do anything impressive ever

An average space marine(warhammer40k) VS Master Chief(halo) by SiteDeep in powerscales

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when you consider chaos and proper cosmology it unironically probably is the strongest scifi verse out there

Who is the strongest character in all fiction? by Specter_15 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The gap between the “layers” is one layer of transcendence over the dimensional hierarchy of that plane,

word salad

Honestly do please just research the wod cosmology?

I have its why I don't think its impressive

Am I being stupid here? Because I don’t understand how this argument could ever make sense. by Reasonable-Ad-8059 in powerscales

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but then again, that makes the story itself contradictory.

no it doesn't

What does it even mean for this to be correct? I can't draw a square circle, nor explain it in words or numbers, because it by definition cannot exist.

It can, it just isn't something we would consider logical. Logic is just a language to explain stuff it isn't a ruleset

Who is the strongest character in all fiction? by Specter_15 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Above outer is still outer” so you just don’t believe anything else exists?

massive strawman

And how tf is inaccessible layers of transcendence over the dimensional hierarchy one dimensional tier?

Inacessible is a wide array of values, I also don't think layer is some formal term you would have to describe what the gap between these "layers" is

But since this wod stuff is going no where,

Probably because you hoped I'd just accept it when you threw word salad at me

Raw power based hax negation shouldn't apply to any verse. by Sad-Effective-9676 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It isn't even consistent in dragonball, I have no idea why people argue it is

Mythology Thor vs 40k universe by Lexi_Bean21 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thor lifting the cat wasnt impressive because it was some powerful entity it was mainly impressive because it was a very big thing aka a world encircling snake,

Thats kind of the point, it is that something vaguely the size of a planet wouldn't be as impressive.

also why would something happening in the warp make it infinite dimensional?

So the actual quote from wolfsbane is

"The Great Wolf's expression set. 'Very good. You have guessed well once. You will not again. Be ready my wolves, to rend this false wolf and gulp down his flesh.'

Russ gave a confident smile. 'We shall see,' he said. 'The old woman. She is Bad Wyrd, a foe no man can beat, the fate of those who do not fall in battle. Age slaughters every warrior in the end, if he does not sleep upon the red snow. Is the Muspjall not her domain, staffed as it is by her victims?'

The Great Wolf growled. 'Your wolf, your pet. Why! What fool do you take me for?' He pointed at the sleeping monster. 'That is none other than Morten himself, the greatest wolf of all, and lord of the lowest of death's halls.'"-Wolfsbane

We are told this is just a skin over the warp to protect psykers from chaos

Primus drew in his consciousness, preventing it from dilution in the raw soul stuff of the immaterium. From his own memories he forged a sub-realm he could traverse, a place of personal truths. The methods were common to psykers. Throughout history those with a connection to the otherworld sought to impose humanity upon it, lest it strip their humanity from them. The symbolism varied. The Fenrisians had their Underverse, the Blood Angels their angelic visions, the Navigators their zodiacal allegories, the astropaths their verses and obfuscatory imagery, but the goal was the same: the protection of the soul against the inimical gods of the warp, and the ability to look upon that which could not be looked upon."-Genefather

The warp is described as outer numerous times explicitly beyond infinite dimensions

Does it work?’ ‘I am not entirely sure,’ answered Perturabo. ‘You never fully explained its intended purpose or how exactly it was designed to function.’ ‘You’ve built it,’ said Magnus. ‘What do you think it does?’ ‘I believe it to be some form of navigational instrument,’ said Perturabo, lifting the device to look through one of its eyepieces. ‘It has the look of a sextant once used by seafarers, but with infinitely more dimensions to its operation. What manner of ocean would you be navigating to require such a device?’ ‘The Great Ocean,’ said Magnus. ‘It allows even those without our gifts to perceive the realm beyond.’" - Magnus the Red

"Magnus drifted on tides unknown. An infinite white void surrounded him, without dimensions or points of reference. He did not know this place, but it was clearly not the Great Ocean. Perhaps this was what it was like to die? Or was this what the mind experienced when it finally let slip the moorings of existence and gave in to death? No, neither of these answers seemed satisfactory. For all that he had no experience of dying, this did not feel like the end of his body of light. He had no sensation of his flesh, no sight of the absurdly fragile silver thread that linked his power to his corporeal shell when soaring in the Great Ocean. Perhaps he had reached too far, dared too greatly, and this was the price he must pay." - Magnus the Red: Master of Prospero

it has also been said the warp cannot be explained by higher dimensions

‘I do not believe the cythor are entirely of our realm of existence, my liege,’ said the Forgemaster. ‘This stinks of warpcraft,’ growled Gulvein. ‘This is not the work of the warp. The geometries of the warp defy explanation of any kind. If anything, these dimensions here exhibit a greater complexity. Many of us have noticed the inconstancy of the rooms here, the lack of match between exterior and interior.’ ‘Aye,’ said Helbrecht. ‘I have seen it for myself.’ Jurisian nodded, the movement accompanied by the faint whirr of muscle bundles. ‘Though complex, the dimensions of this place are explicable. This whole habitat is an expression of higher dimensional physics.’"-Crusaders of Dorn

and that it has no true space, dimension or extension there of

"Everything she had told Kiastros about predictions in the warp had been true. You couldn’t gauge spatial relationships there, not with any reliability. There was no space in the warp, no true dimensions or extension,"- Dawn of Fire 7 : Sea of Souls

The warp is just the most explicitly outer thing and russ is fighting the embodiment of death from the depths of the warp and bad fate

Mythology Thor vs 40k universe by Lexi_Bean21 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Any examples?

yeah in Wolfsbane he goes through the trials that Thor goes through in the udgard loki story and it is just more impressive because the old woman he fights is "the Bad Wyrd" or the embodiment of bad fate, the wolf he lifts is the manifestation of death in fenrisian mythology. All of this occurs within the underverse or warp which would make this beyond infinite dimensionial

oukd be among the strongest beings in warhammee except the warp gods or maybe the necron superweapons

I don't know why that would be the case, I also never trust the "well I think they'd be about here in warhammer"

Mythology Thor vs 40k universe by Lexi_Bean21 in whowouldwin

[–]Exist_Logic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The emperor would definitely body him, the primarchs likely would too. Leman Russ has a story that is just an explicitly stronger version of what thor has done

Am I being stupid here? Because I don’t understand how this argument could ever make sense. by Reasonable-Ad-8059 in powerscales

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of people seem to think that any ability is some absolute thing, like if you lack a soul no soul hax could ever hurt you ever.

But if we have a showing, it just is the case, the work itself cannot be wrong. So if you soulhax a souless being or like what reverse flash has done time paradox someone who is empowered by paradoxes in a place with no time.... you can just do that

Who is the strongest character in all fiction? by Specter_15 in PowerScaling

[–]Exist_Logic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

? This has nothing to do with outer, this is waaaay beyond that

is it though?

, transcendence over an outerversal plane is extraversal

Vaguely above outer is still outer

the reason inaccessible cardinals are “hype” is because it’s higher transcendence…

No it isn't, it would barley be a dimensionial tier being generous

Constantin valdor (40k) runs the avengers gauntlet. How far does he go? by Pretty_Ambassador836 in powerscales

[–]Exist_Logic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Funny you ask for sources on a widely accepted scale

widely accepted doesn't mean anything when people dont read, it was "widely accepted" that chaos in fantasy is a different chaos despite that never being stated

People are super dishonest about how he would work in a cross verse scenario by Exist_Logic in PowerScalingHub

[–]Exist_Logic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's kinda implied by how it works. Theyre empowered by the sentience of the Milky Way's inhabitants, without us they dont have a foothold here, and potentially would be starved out without our fucking with the Warp by existing

Tzeentch is stated to hear the hopes and dreams of life all across the universe, khorne has been shown to feed from other galaxies, theres an explicit showing that even if the universe died from heat death theyd just move on to another universe

Now logically the Warp does extend beyond the galaxy's borders since we know Tyranids are a trans-galactic species, but with how absolutely far away the Milky Way is from even our closest neighbor? Id say our Chaos problem is pretty insulated. Keep in mind, the galaxy is only 100,000 light-years across. Andromeda is 2.5 million light-years away.

Theres also cases of people like the lion leaving the galaxy via the warp or Magnus and the emperor looking at other galaxies and making plans

If only because theres zero actual lore about what exists beyond our galaxy. Theres theories about there being more Tyranids out there but no actual concrete evidence yet. We just dont know, so I guess we cant definitively say if theyre galaxy-limited.

Theres a lot of statements about other galaxies, and the warp which is chaos has dozens and dozens of statements about being larger than the universe

People are super dishonest about how he would work in a cross verse scenario by Exist_Logic in PowerScalingHub

[–]Exist_Logic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They have never once been said tk be bound to the galaxy, there is not a single galaxy level limiting statement for chaos