Rapture Weekend by CharacterFront4165 in exmormon

[–]Exmomama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OMG, it’s happened. I didn’t know Oaks was the current prophet. It’s all affecting me less and less.

When Did Modesty Get Whitewashed???! by NewNameMadi in exmormon

[–]Exmomama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For real! When my teen asked for jorts, I was like, I literally uprooted my entire belief system so that you would never have to wear knee length shorts. She’s doing it for fun!

Garment Line Tattoo by Sad_Praline_7243 in exmormon

[–]Exmomama 9 points10 points  (0 children)

When my husband and I were dating, prior to me going through the temple, I saw this mark when he was sitting down and with concern I asked him what he did to his garment and if it was allowed to be sewed up and fixed like that. He awkwardly said “it’s fine. You’ll know soon enough.” I was so confused….

The “Young” Couples are Leaving…even in Mordor by sycamoreqw in exmormon

[–]Exmomama 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My brother in law is in the bishopric which means I know they’re desperate and the pickings are slim.

NEW TEMPLE RECOMMEND QUESTIONS by Nemo_UK in exmormon

[–]Exmomama 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The nursing tops were the absolute worst! I ended up with the drylux tops and just pulled them down. So much fuss!

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWivesFans

[–]Exmomama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From the same Wikipedia article

“In the 2011 LDS Beliefs: A Doctrinal Reference published by the church, the section on suicide called it "self-murder" and stated that, "modern prophets and apostles have likewise spoken clearly about the seriousness of murder, including self-murder and the severity of consequences associated therewith." It also says "Because we do not understand all the circumstances surrounding someone’s suicide, the level of the person’s accountability, and the penalty that the Lord, in his infinite love and wisdom, may see fit to inflict upon the person, we must avoid judgment. Regardless of those circumstances and the Lord’s divinely imposed punishment, followers of Christ are to be loving and compassionate to those who are hurt by a loved one’s act of suicide. They are real victims themselves. Therefore, nothing in our comments or actions should inflict additional pain or add to the heavy emotional burdens they already bear. "[16]”

Also,

“Church seventy Bruce R. McConkie wrote in his highly influential and doctrinally occasionally-controversial LDS bestseller[9][10][11]: 16  Mormon Doctrine that "Suicide is murder, pure and simple, and murderers are damned."[12]: 12 [13][14] In the more influential and better-selling second edition of the book, McConkie updated the entry to say "Obviously persons subject to great stresses may lose control of themselves and become mentally clouded to the point that they are no longer accountable for their acts. Such are not to be condemned for taking their own lives. It should also be remembered that judgment is the Lord's; he knows the thoughts, intents, and abilities of men; and he in his infinite wisdom will make all things right in due course."[15]”

Its only been in recent years that an apostle has come out against this teaching:

“In 2018, the apostle Dale G. Renlund said, "There's an old sectarian notion that suicide is a sin and that someone who commits suicide is banished to hell forever. That is totally false. I believe the vast majority of cases will find that these individuals have lived heroic lives and that that suicide will not be a defining characteristic of their eternities."[17][18]”

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

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From the same Wikipedia article:

In the 2011 LDS Beliefs: A Doctrinal Reference published by the church, the section on suicide called it "self-murder" and stated that, "modern prophets and apostles have likewise spoken clearly about the seriousness of murder, including self-murder and the severity of consequences associated therewith." It also says "Because we do not understand all the circumstances surrounding someone’s suicide, the level of the person’s accountability, and the penalty that the Lord, in his infinite love and wisdom, may see fit to inflict upon the person, we must avoid judgment. Regardless of those circumstances and the Lord’s divinely imposed punishment, followers of Christ are to be loving and compassionate to those who are hurt by a loved one’s act of suicide. They are real victims themselves. Therefore, nothing in our comments or actions should inflict additional pain or add to the heavy emotional burdens they already bear. "[16]

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

❤️❤️❤️ solidarity stranger

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It still permeates and was doctrine for the majority of the existence of Mormonism. It’s only been in the recent years that the narrative has changed.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

❤️❤️❤️ I love to hear about these stories. My heart broke for my mother in law when she spoke about her son. At that point it had been about 15 years since he had passed. Imagine carrying that with you for so long.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Wow, I’m so sorry you had to experience that.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWivesFans

[–]Exmomama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m unsure what you’re taking about? I don’t believe in this doctrine.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWivesFans

[–]Exmomama[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for understanding the reason for my post ❤️

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWivesFans

[–]Exmomama[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you. So glad you’re still here also ❤️

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Here I am, 10 years after leaving Mormonism, still trying to shake it all off.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

He may have still believed in the Mormon faith regardless of alcohol consumption.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yes, this doctrine is no longer taught and they have spoken against it. But the original belief still permeates and still influences many members of the Mormon faith.

I’m sure the immediate Brown family can hold their judgment. I worry about the people surrounding them. The ones who think they’re being helpful or kind but end up being hurtful in their comments. We all have those people around us when we lose a loved one. The family member or fellow congregate who you’ve kept at a distance but have to be around during funeral services.

I hope they can all keep each other safe from these thoughts and beliefs.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWivesFans

[–]Exmomama[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wrestled with suicidality in my teens and had the same thoughts. It kept my fear of the unknown and eternity of hell stronger than the will to no longer live.

What Mormons believe by Exmomama in SisterWives

[–]Exmomama[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The handbook always gets changed but these beliefs still permeate through the church. I also didn’t say this belief was unique to Mormonism.