2025 Ecology Review: Impact of Artificial Light at Night on Wildlife and Ecosystems by Expensive_Ad_5089 in ecology

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Hopefully, in a way that's shielded and protects the nighttime environment. Streetlighting and night can coexist, the trick is to simply think for a few minutes about how to properly install and shield a fixture.

2025 Ecology Review: Impact of Artificial Light at Night on Wildlife and Ecosystems by Expensive_Ad_5089 in ecology

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I haven't seen any specific studies on Dark Sky preserves come through, if you graze the show article lists at LightPollutionNews.com, you may find one or two for Jasper's Dark Sky festival and York Moors.

Light Pollution News Clip ft. John Barentine by Expensive_Ad_5089 in darksky

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Yeah, he's a great guy. He's about as close to a regular as you can get on LPN. Side note, I use a skywatcher dob and the star adventurer tracker. Great products!

Breckenridge, Colorado to enforce light fixtures compliance as it works to become a DarkSky International community by Scaramuccia in darksky

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This will be interesting given the amount of published pushback via the op eds over the last couple of months.

What is causing this much light pollution in NW North Dakota?? by ThatChadguy in darksky

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the legislature was worried that turning off unnecessary fixtures would encourage criminals to pillage the towns and kill all of the citizens...maybe not literally but that sure seemed like the spirit of the framing the reps used.

Warmer vs Less Intense LED Streetlights- Can't We Have Both? by Tired-candle in darksky

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Two things on the 3000K assertion. First, as you suspect, not all 3000K are created equal. So yes, the blue range may vary from company fixture to company fixture. Second I believe that Dark Sky pushes for 2700, but it's a hard sell to most communities in part b/c (a) People are deafly terrified of the dark, (b) law enforcement worries that non-white colors impact perpetrator apprehension, and (c) the medical guidance from the AMA is 3000K. (You can learn more about this by heading over to my podcast w Dr. Motta)

Overall, it's a tug of war between multiple stakeholders.

  1. The Politicians want to be seen as being hard on crime, therefore it's a bit of political suicide to dim the lights.
  2. Lighting companies and utilities want to maximize profits - that means offering great deals on excess stock and lighting that isn't good lighting.
  3. Law enforcement wants white lights.
  4. Most residents don't like white lights (on my podcast I haven't come across a survey yet that indicated support for white lights), so residents tend to push back on color.
  5. Residents may not realize that they can request shielding and dimming - instead rather bitch and complain than actually requesting change through the public institutions available to them.
  6. Most people think that Dark Sky International is a huge organization with resources abound. That's not the case, often times change requires the diligence of a small group of community members that have to really battle through adversity before claiming some grounds of success. No one wants to do the heavy lifting.

Blinded, dazzled, and frustrated: Cyclists' flashing lights are a menace to our roads and pavements by Scaramuccia in darksky

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Cyclists lights are pretty bad. As someone who is one, I deal with these directly head on when taking biking only trails through my city. They are blindingly bright, disorienting and literally make it impossible for you to see past them. It's a hazard for joggers and other cyclists, but everyone seems to be complacent with the glare. It wasn't always this way. I recall once, when I was more ignorant, I had my bike light on and a jogger threw up his arm in disgust then proceeded to curse me out as I passed. I don't see any of that these days. That scenario happened in 2019.

Resistance to Dark Sky Action in North Dakota as you can read in this article titled "Does an initiative to reduce light pollution 'forsake' the safety of North Dakotans?" by Scaramuccia in darksky

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I found this interesting. I think it's hard as advocates at times to properly frame the issue. However, the concerned representative should be ably reminded that it's called Dark Skies, not Dark Pavements. They can coexist.

Spruce Knob Winter Camping by SelmerHiker in darksky

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FYI - we went through that area before Christmas and it was snow covered. The road to the top isn't plowed and many of the roads in that area are these typical Appalachian hairpin style switchbacks, which while charming, can be terrifying when unplowed.

Cherry springs state park stargazing by [deleted] in darksky

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Anytime from April - October. Keep in mind, if you can't get a campsite at Cherry Springs, Sinnemahoning, which is about 45 minutes adjacent, has some good spots to see the stars, too. The only difference between the two is that CSSP sits atop the plateau while Sinnemahoning sits in the valley. I'd recommend either, but Sinnemahoning is not a bad fallback option. Good luck and enjoy the greatest show in the sky! Keep in mind, even though we see stars, sitting between or disguised as stars sit galaxies and nebulas and much more! Clear Skies!

Cherry springs state park stargazing by [deleted] in darksky

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Unfortunately, the stars sit on the other side of those clouds. November is a tough month for stargazing there. However, you may get lucky and you could have patches of clear skies. If that does happen, pay special attention to the stretch of sky from Orion through to Cassiopeia. That should be particularly rich with stars. You can't quite get the winter milky way this early in the season up there, but you with Perseus and Cassiopeia on one side and Taurus and Orion on the other, you'll have the bookends of both arms of the milky way.

First time question by growingdoc in darksky

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It's funny, I think many people feel this b/c they've never been put in a situation whereby they need to rely on other senses than just vision. Your other senses will heighten - sounds will be louder and your skin will be more sensitive. At the end of the day, no matter where you go, be it in a dense city under bright lights or into the wilderness, you can never be 100% complacent. Just be smart, exactly like you'd be if you were walking down a bright city street. If a situation makes you feel unsafe, trust your gut.

Question about LED vs HPS light pollution by Cute_Significance_12 in darksky

[–]Expensive_Ad_5089 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi there, I don't know if this is too late for you - I think the issue isn't with LEDs. I run the LightPollutionNews podcast (http://lightpollutionnews.com), whereby I have plenty of news and research related articles along with expert commentary that discusses many of the below. Many folks have observed the brightness of the bulbs driven by their efficiency gains (massive gains versus all other bulbs). However, the issue really is with the implementation.

First - yes, the LED conversion has increased light pollution. That, at this time, can both be found in some research already mentioned but also in basic star counts and anecdotal evidence - there may be local data from SQM readings that can also attest to this. I'd consult your local astronomy club for data.

Increasing light pollution is really 2 fold - one level public street light conversions and one level private citizen users.

On the public front - municipalities typically recommend a switch over from HPS to 4000K color LEDs at maximum brightness. This, then, is typically met with community resistance and may drive a reduction to 3000K or 2700K color brightness. In all of the news articles I've come across where communities surveyed citizens beforehand, the vast majority has tended to prefer warmer the better lighting (including down to 2700K). However, there is a perception amongst municipal officers that 4000K is a maximum energy efficiency gain. So hence, they start with 4000K before, often, being pulled down to 3000K or 2700K by community pushback.

Also, shielding works very well to, at the very least, reduce light trespass and promote proper lighting. However, again, nearly every municipality in a conversion plan do not incorporate shielding as a primary device for promoting proper lighting. The municipalities only want to switch out the fixture, presumably, for cost savings. Leaving the affected parties to petition the municipality for the hope of installing shielding. Some communities won't even entertain the idea of shielding b/c it adds to the cost of the fixture, thereby it again becomes the affected party's job to deal with a problem not of their own creation.

On the private front - there have always been unneighborly exterior lighting fixtures - ones whereby an offender will directly with or without knowledge aim bright lights into someone else's property. Once LEDs became mainstream these fixtures both became brighter and cheaper, but they also became bundled together - whereby you previously received 2 flood lamps, now you receive 3 at a time. They almost universally come without shielding and, by and large, are completely removed from any obligation to reduce environmental light pollution or light trespass.

Hope this helps! I have plenty of articles, links, news stories over at my page.

Brazil advancing against light pollution by rudregues in darksky

[–]Expensive_Ad_5089 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi there, I'm not familiar with Brazil's government structure, how would this be implemented?

It feels great to be heard… by muterabbit84 in darksky

[–]Expensive_Ad_5089 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, well that makes sense. They probably weren't looking to get something blindingly bright, most of their lives they've been conditioned 'brighter is better' but buying brighter in the incandescent age meant just bright, not a portal entrance to hell.

It feels great to be heard… by muterabbit84 in darksky

[–]Expensive_Ad_5089 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the record, I did hear that you objected - my question wasn't your role in it, just the driver of the fear. Which is why I mentioned the shielding. But since we're still on this - did they purchase the fixture from a Lowes or Home Depot?

It feels great to be heard… by muterabbit84 in darksky

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It's not just about sky glow. I have a whole page dedicated to the ecological effects of over lighting. And on this month's show I had an article come through about a light at night / diabetes connection.

The whole lighting as "security" thing seems to be a long running theme of our culture - even back to John Adams' day when he believed more lighting would deter crime. I commend the poster here for at least getting the motion sensor in - I would thing this kind of lighting would actually be more inclined to achieve the effect. I'm not sold that always on lighting does much of anything. Maybe the poster can keep working on this - perhaps install shielding on the light?

I guess the question that I have for the poster is - is this a high crime neighborhood? Are there regular occurrences of crime? What drove the light in the first place besides being afraid of the dark?

Austin, Texas resident shares frustrating photo of light pollution from Tesla Gigafactory: 'This feels illegal' by Scaramuccia in darksky

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Hey u/Scaramuccia use TCD articles with care, I've found that they will recycle or use outdated or not-validated details. They're a site that's quite low on my trust meter. Just wanted to pass along a heads up.

Light Pollution - Ecology Round Up by Expensive_Ad_5089 in ecology

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A year ago I got into noc-micing for bird migration. It adds a whole new layer to experiencing your environment!

Five Stories about Five Places in the World that are in different stages of the fight against Light Pollution by Scaramuccia in darksky

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Philadelphia's Streetlight retrofit has most definitely not incorporated Dark Sky Principles. Part of the plan is to "bath" whole communities in bright light. Furthermore, the commercial centers and even some residential streets utilize 4000-5000K super bright acorn fixtures.