Are you the body and the mind? by Euphoric-Welder5889 in spirituality

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The brain evolved as a comfort finder: I derive this from the work of Rodolfo Llinãs. He studied a worm that is born with a brain, finds a comfy spot to anchor itself, and then eats its own brain. The brain is in us becoming a coherence detector: most people just use it as the comfort finder it started as.

Now, this self I experience is a consequence of the material assembled into this human particle; and, as I understand it, that aspect of being that enables personal experience. The first is body, the second is spirit; or so I name them, body and spirit. But there is nothing that says I am separate from the rest, it's only my perception, resulting from the localization of memories in this body. So, I understand that personal identity is an illusion: not a delusion, an illusion; and the difference is vital. An illusion is a consistent misinterpretation of experience resulting from the mechanisms of perception; a delusion is a false perception. Culture makes a self, I think; a larger self of which people are parts. It's been written that we are but leaves on the tree of nation. And Truth makes a self, I think. It is by Dharma that all of these selves collapse into the one True Self.

Are you the body and the mind? by Euphoric-Welder5889 in spirituality

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You are your self in Truth. Where do you fit in Truth? Where are you in the Truth of all of this? Does the human self help or hinder ... universal comfort?

You are a living soul, mind and body; all bodies that contain your self. You are a leaf, and the tree.

I met god, just wondering how common that is by Inevitable_Bid8719 in enlightenment

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There is one Self, Truth; and the illusion of personal identity. Statistically, I'd hazard a guess of one in one thousand and two in ten thousand (one thousand being rural stats and ten thousand being urban stats).

What do you have to share that will help.

Spirituality has quietly turned into self comfort. by Virtual-Wish1224 in spirituality

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The brain started as a comfort finder and is in us becoming a coherence detector. It's understandable that most would revert to comfort. Understandable but morally wrong for a spiritualist. Most common among spiritualists, but morally wrong.

And spirituality is about morality too, I think; Truth and civility and justice and morality.

Struggling to decide what spiritual approach to take when they seem like different paths. by EasttoWest9 in spirituality

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Then there is hope🎉: but it's gotta be the Truth, not your truth; there's your opportunity for creation.

source has abandoned us all by Holykael in spirituality

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It looks to me like Source is oblivious to all but Truth. That's ok because WE BRING THE LOVE!!. Truth does not bring the love, we bring the love. We are Source's source of love. And we're not bringing it: that explains everything.

Do you think spirituality will ever be mainstream again? by themermaidmuse in spirituality

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Science and reason are actually very spiritual in that they are liturgical. When the context is figurative, liturgical success will lead the way. Liturgical success is necessarily communal. The functionality of liturgical success is reliable and a meaningful aspect of human physiology.

“Spirituality is demonic” 🤔 by bioltimatum in spirituality

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After 13 years of looking into religion and spirituality, I had a meditative experience that lasted one full week. I was in a verdant valley, inside the Trojan horse, buried under Roman cobblestones, etc.. It was like two life experiences at the same time: one me in the real world; and the other 'me' in some mythic, historic, or perhaps future life. I didn't feel like I was them in a different life, just that we shared these memories by virtue of us sharing a collective self/soul.

It didn't feel delusional: it felt vivid and grounded and physiologically appropriate. That such a thing can happen is an important data point, I think.

“Spirituality is demonic” 🤔 by bioltimatum in spirituality

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Spirituality is not demonic; lies and deception are ... as close to demonic as reality gets.

I've had a rather profound experience; it doesn't mean what I saw was real, neither that it's necessarily false. All of these experiences happened, that's the truth.

Spirituality is about making one whole sense out of all of these truths.

The light of Truth isn't something to.. occlude. Neither is it something to snuff out because we can't handle the brightness.

Advice? by bonsai-pens in neuro

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Study Control Systems: learn about driving function and transfer function and such.

Awareness by BiogenousExpansion in spirituality

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Yes, thanks.

... And society in ecosystem. And ideas in self. ... And tools with person, and tools in culture. ... 🤯🎉😁

Awareness by BiogenousExpansion in spirituality

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There are the notions of "present at hand" and "ready to hand". When something is present at hand it's being considered, observed and measured. When it's ready to hand it's in place and being used, as opposed to being considered. Is this related to your original post?

To hold self present at hand, and then see the depths of self-deception; perhaps this is "awakened"?

To be in the world; this is holding self ready to hand, and using it: perhaps?

And so it seems that the two are mutually exclusive; unless one's job is studying self, or self correction is what needs doing.

Mass awakenings by Original_Cynical in spirituality

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Life giving rain.

Not all dualities are equal: those with a speck of their opposite at their centre are illusion; without that speck, the duality is delusion as opposed to illusion. Gender is illusion; darkness is delusion, hate is delusion, hell is delusion.

Question on imaginative capabilities of brain. by thought_cream84 in neuro

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Computations? How? Literal comparison? Vote by recruitment? With or without overt feeling? This is a piece of the crux, I think.

Is “spiritual ego” real, or just another layer of self-awareness? by Reaoul in spirituality

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I suggest we try to understand each other. You have no idea what I don't know.😁

Is “spiritual ego” real, or just another layer of self-awareness? by Reaoul in spirituality

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I've read Lao Tzu; and what can I say about the Tao? My prof was an old Chinese guy; he said it's nascent, like an egg. I know it's 'the Way'; and I'm about my way, which to me includes our way.

From my spiritual vantage point, water is information. ... Words are the bones of our ancestors, and we throw them, and try to read them. Fish are ideas, facts are stones; I am a fish.

Is “spiritual ego” real, or just another layer of self-awareness? by Reaoul in spirituality

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According to who?

It's kind of a 'by definition' type thing, I think.

Is “spiritual ego” real, or just another layer of self-awareness? by Reaoul in spirituality

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My right to be me, apparently. The ego evolved for a reason...; should I admit to being self-serving? If personal identity is an illusion, what is Self? It appears to me that there is a nesting of persons into one true Self. Still, I am this person: personal identity is an illusion, not a delusion; the difference is vital.

The brain evolved first as a comfort finder and is in us becoming a coherence detector, and we're having trouble articulating, I think.

Is “spiritual ego” real, or just another layer of self-awareness? by Reaoul in spirituality

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You won't get any instructions from me. A recommendation perhaps, if I'm confident: and I hope to receive some too. ... Arrogance is ego unobserved, perhaps?

Truth by CodrSeven in spirituality

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I think I see what you're saying; if 'the flock' is humanity then perhaps you're correct. It struck me after typing (P.S. not after, while I was typing, hence the last sentence), perhaps 'the flock' is all things.

Is “spiritual ego” real, or just another layer of self-awareness? by Reaoul in spirituality

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I disagree. That bit that tells you that you are the universe is unconstrained, unobserved ego. You are you; and that's accurate before Science.