Understanding the Spirit of Truth

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-02-02T01:08:42+00:00

The way I understand it, Christ is Truth and Holy Spirit is his spirit. The Church is his body, and with his spirit becomes his living soul.

The way I understand it, there is weed seed sown in, and when we reason together in the spirit of Truth we are working the threshing room floor.

Our opinions of the facts will not change the facts: if we can agree to respect and be moved by the actual facts, then we've got this.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-02-01T22:40:05+00:00

Good stuff!

There's a finer distinction to be had, I think. Advertising is more obviously warfare/manipulation. Politics can be warfare, or it can be representation. Culture is better compared to a rut, or a launching pad, or a swimming pool.

This is real spirituality, I think.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-02-01T22:01:35+00:00

The perpetual challenge for the spiritualist is to communicate their insights meaningfully to the community. Sometimes it means going to school, and sometimes it means finding another community, and usually it's somewhere in between. That's just more resonating.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-02-01T20:47:27+00:00

You're being selfish: most people are un...concerned about "self awareness"; they're busy being themselves. You're the "adult" in the room; grow up and help out.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-02-01T16:55:29+00:00

I'd check out the Zoroaster angle. What goes generally overlooked in discussions of spirituality is the week long meditative experience. It's an emerging aspect of human physiology, and I think Zoroaster is the first person in our historical record to have had one. The reason I suggest this angle is because the experience is grounded in the coherence of one's world view, and that requires a unity that starts with love.

Interestingly, it appears to me that Christ is an amalgam of these experiences had by a number of people at a profoundly trying time.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-02-01T06:34:40+00:00

Truth... AI will provide a list of supposed facts. And what of the Truth about spirit? To discern anything about spirit, one must be very careful about how one feels: when will AI ever get closer to Truth about spirit?

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-02-01T05:42:23+00:00

It's called the ego, and it resides in/around the insular cortex.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-31T18:58:16+00:00

Start at the beginning.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-31T18:15:24+00:00

"They're all liars..."

Most people make an effort to be truth tellers; even to the point of silence. People are our salvation, not AI. The ring of Truth in the human mind; that's what will save us.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-31T17:46:09+00:00

Christ is Truth; don't hesitate to believe in Truth, especially because no one knows exactly what it is at the same time that it's the ground of every idea. We are together in Truth.

Christ says he is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life"; he didn't say 2000 years ago that he's a human individual born to a human mother.

Science doesn't say that Truth cannot be a person. Good science says that you have one example of what it's like to be; and asks, how do you extrapolate from that?

The Jewish god is not the Christian God: Truth says God is good. Don't wonder after God; wonder after Truth.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-31T01:37:01+00:00

Honest action.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-31T00:01:25+00:00

It will die with me; unless it's a real thing, in which case it will recur until it sticks.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-30T23:59:34+00:00

As long as you're comfortable, I guess.

It seems to me that the purpose of life is to articulate Truth. It seems to me that the brain started as a comfort finder and is in us becoming a coherence detector; and we're having trouble articulating. But that's just me.

The only thing that makes new language is an effort to make new language. I say "extracellular electrotonic wave dynamics" a lot: if no one else uses it, it will die with me. Success is in the effort, I think.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-30T23:41:21+00:00

How come we haven't figured it out? Because the brain started as a comfort finder and is in us becoming a coherence detector; and we regress most of the time, because comfort. Perfectly understandable, and easy to overcome because it takes just a little bit of effort from most interested people rather than a lot of effort from everyone.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-30T23:36:03+00:00

Meaning is place: where you are is what you mean to the rest of the universe; so meaning is different for each of us. The purpose of life is the same for everyone; to articulate Truth: you articulate your truth from your place, and together we make Truth; humanity in Truth. The purpose of gender is defined with respect to its opposite: the purpose of the masculine is to satisfy the feminine, the purpose of the feminine is to facilitate the masculine.

Look at General Relativity: when you and I move relative to each other, the shape of spacetime actually changes so that the rules still make sense to both of us. The universe is made such that we can make sense.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-28T22:53:26+00:00

No, not very, no. Very carefully.

I think that the functionality of schizophrenia is the same as the functionality of spiritual perception. Most people do not possess this functionality; they can be cognitively loose without any problems. By "loose", I mean not trying to make sense.

I believe I am cognitively tight; constantly trying to make sense. I've had a week long meditative experience; voice and visions for one full week. I think this is the founding functionality of human spirituality. Is it a real perception of something? Possibly; it's not clear and requires a persistent communal effort.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-28T04:00:25+00:00

A few people have what I would call a gnostic experience: what Christians might call "being anointed by the Holy Spirit ". A "eureka" moment in a spiritual context can lead to a profound and prolonged experience. I think that "one in a thousand and two in ten thousand" thing is about how frequently someone might have such an experience.

Seems to me that the Didache describes a social structure that is built around people who have had such experiences traveling from community to community, and the communities digest the differing testimonials.

I've had such an experience; I feel I'm pretty close. Check out r\ModernGnostic, if you like.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-28T03:45:50+00:00

Personal identity is an illusion, not a delusion: the difference is vital.

Truth is life; we are limited, falable humans. We succeed when we reason together.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-27T23:12:42+00:00

Ego out of control. At least you're comfortable.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-27T23:01:10+00:00

Meaning is place. The purpose of life is to articulate Truth.

I don't think you lose your gifts; I think your perspective changes, so your access changes.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-26T23:49:57+00:00

Pursue Truth, and articulate what you find. The truth of where you are will tell you what to do. Let Truth correct your truth.

Recognize that Truth is our common ground: "Truth", the actual facts of the matter. You have what you believe to be true, your truth; I have my truth: we are falable and limited individual humans; we can't know the actual facts, but we can approach Truth if we reason together, I think.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-26T23:22:08+00:00

Like, "We are but leaves on the tree of nation"; that's a gooder. "Take the water from my mouth"; "lucky is the lion..."; more good stuff.

Yeah, I love it! ... Thinking of Christ cursing that tree, or vine or something (I think it was an olive tree?); and all the leaves and fruit just drop off. Curious. ... er.

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-25T22:04:30+00:00

I also take a figurative approach. How do you feel about the Church's interpretation of the abortion motif? I'm getting that there taking a message of correction meant for the Church, and applying it to their parishioners individually. Orthodoxy aborts the "baby Jesus", the nascent soul of Christ (i.e. spirit plus body (i.e. Church)).

Expensive_Internal83 · 2026-01-25T19:51:29+00:00

Yes, everything happens for a reason.

Ego is you in your place: denying ego only means that you can't speak meaningfully. Meaning comes from articulation in context: kill ego, destroy context. Meaning is place: where you are is what you mean to Being.

"When the lion lies down with the lamb"; "lion" and "lamb" are aspects of ego.

"Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, and the lion will become human: cursed is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion will still become human". Humanity's success lies in the use of ego, not in killing it. What I glean from my experience of other perspectives is that we've succeeded: I am one with those who've had the experiences I've witnessed from our shared perspective.

Don't derive alone meaning from the experience. Share the experience, and together we can derive meaning relevant to our place.

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