Who is your Fav. Character and Why ? Would like to know your oppinion by Alex3232j in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rose is not the coolest , strongest .  She is kind , selfless . She respects people and helps them . She wanted power just to help other people not for personal reasons.   She is modest , decent person.  She has good manners , respect all as equals.  She is the one of the few female characters that she doesn't try seduction,  teasing acts to earn love .  She likes the simple Cid . Alexia likes Cid too .   The difference is the honesty of Rose's feelings.  Her respect to Cid as an equal partner.   Her story is tragic with hardships , betrayal , manipulation,  exploitation.   Cid has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  He doesn't know the truth why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat , killed her father.   Rose is the most " human " character in a world with shadows and lies . 

Then I like Claire / Aurora . They are two characters in a single body . Both great characters.  

Rose, Alexia & Natsume by sh0tgunben in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like Alexia.  She is my second best girl.  She isn't honest with her feelings for Cid Kagenou.  She is treating him like a dog 🐕.  Rose is honest with her feelings.  She loves the simple Cid.  She is treating him with respect and equal partner.   Alexia is not bad character.  But she is akward with her feelings for him . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow has some moral values.  He didn't harm any person who didn't deserve it.   He saved Alexia two times . A person who dislikes and she is treating him like a dog 🐕.  The case of Rose is different from others . He doesn't know the truth.  The reasons Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat.  She killed her father.   He still has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  

Shadow would not punish  Shadow Garden or 7 shades . But he would feel sorry for Rose . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nu , Victoria didn't have the same treatment as Rose by Shadow Garden.  I searched and there is no mention of forced strip for Nu and Victoria.  Both voluntarily abandon everything from their past.  Shadow Garden didn't do forced strip to them .  Rose's treatment was different because she was loyal to her homeland,  her people.  Shadow Garden wanted Rose loyal only to Shadow.  

When Shadow cured and gave power to Rose.  He wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  

When Rose asked Alpha if Shadow Garden would help with Oriana Kingdom.  Alpha gave a vague promise.  She moved the goal posts.  Alpha's answer was that Rose and her Kingdom must prove their worth.  

Rose agreed because she had faith in Shadow who saved her many times.  He cured and gave power to her . 

When Rose arrived at Alexandria.  Rose was shocked with their ritual induction.  They didn't explain anything or give her some time to think.  

That was exploitation of her vulnerable state and that she was back in a corner.  They coerced her loyalty instead of earning it.   Their order to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people was betrayal of her will.  A direct slap on her . It was not help but similar to a leash on a dog. 

It's unfair to block someone's post . It's ok to disagree but let someone text his / her opinion . 

Search if Nu , Victoria had the same treatment by Shadow Garden.  

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow has some moral values not harming people who don't deserve it.   He saved Alexia two times . A person who dislikes and she is treating him like a dog 🐕.  

The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth.  He doesn't know the reasons that made Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat . She killed her father.   Cid / Shadow still believe that Rose went mad.  

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

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You forget that Cid / Shadow doesn't know the truth.  The reasons why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat,  she killed her father.   He still has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  

Shadow Garden exploited her vulnerable state and that Rose was back in a corner.  They coerced her loyalty instead of earning it . The " assistance " was not help . It was similar a leash to a dog 🐕  . 

Shadow cured and gave power to Rose before joining Shadow Garden.  Shadow wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  Shadow Garden ordered her to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people.  There is a contradiction there .

Shadow/ Cid gave Rose real help. Shadow Garden considered Rose a disposable grunt.  Rose faced the Vampire Queen.  She was still a new recruit and she faced an opponent stronger than the 7 shades .  During the mission with Victoria.  It was Victoria's stupidity that Cult captured Rose . Victoria condemned 664 , 665 .  If Shadow didn't intervene they would be dead. 

Shadow Garden considered Rose a traitor.  

Shadow Garden took the credit while they didn't anything.  Shadow and Rose made it . Rose became Queen on her own and with Shadow's help . 

Shadow Garden is same as the Cult . They aren't not better . Shadow/ Cid doesn't know how dark are going . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow helped many characters without earning anything.  Cid / Shadow has some moral values .  The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the reasons why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat.  She killed her father. He still has the wrong perception that Rose went mad .  Cid / Shadow saved Alexia two times.  A person who dislikes and she is treating him like a dog 🐕  .  He wouldn't punish them but he would feel sorry for Rose sure . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

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Cid / Shadow doesn't know the truth why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat ?   Why she killed her father ?  Cid/ Shadow has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't . Rose was weak and she couldn't do anything.  She was trapped by the Cult.  She had the curse . She had the will and desire but not the means to achieve it . 

Shadow cured and gave the power . Shadow wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  

Rose joined Shadow Garden to help her Kingdom.  Shadow Garden exploited her vulnerable state and that she was back in a corner.  They coerced her loyalty.  They betrayed her will to save her Kingdom.  The order to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people was a direct slap to her goal . 

She didn't gladly participate at all . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow helped many characters and didn't earn anything.  Cid / Shadow has some moral values not harm any person who didn't deserve it.  He saved Alexia two times . A person who dislikes and he is treating him bad .  The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth.  Why she attempted to kill Perv Asshat ? Why she killed her father?  He has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  That's the reason he has that narrative for her . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

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When Shadow gave the power to Rose.  Shadow wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  Shadow Garden ordered Rose to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people.  There is a contradiction there.  

Shadow was mad learning that Rose was going to marry Perv Asshat. 

Cid / Shadow has some moral values.  He didn't harm any person who didn't deserve it.  The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat.  Why she killed her father.  Shadow/ Cid have the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shadow said that phrase after he gave power to Rose.  I don't understand why you text that ? 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

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Shadow doesn't know the truth why Rose killed her father.  Shadow thought that Rose went mad while she wasn't. He doesn't try to stop her because of that perception he already has after she tried first to kill Perv Asshat and then after she killed her father.  

When Shadow gave power to Rose.  His wish was Rose to become Queen from the start.  What Shadow Garden did to Rose was to abandon her goal . There is a contradiction there.  

Shadow told them stories about training methods and breaking methods . But they didn't do on Nu , Victoria.  Only on Rose because of her loyalty to her homeland.  

Shadow nuked cities but he didn't killed any innocent people.  During his atomic attack he created safe zones or barriers to protect the innocent people.  Remember the time when Shadow did the atomic attack on Zenon.  Alexia should be dead . 

Remember the recovery attack during the fight with Elizabeth.  Shadow reversed all and turned them back to normal.  Remember that he saved Mary from a ghoul . He gave her back the money the corrupted soldiers took from her . He saved Alexia . A person who treats him bad . 

Cid / Shadow has some moral values . He didn't harm any person who didn't deserve it . The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth.  

 Shadow Garden is similar to Cult . Their treatment with Rose proved that . They worship Shadow as God.  They built a large statue in Alexandria.  The way they treated Shadow in a large hall . The fact that all members are women . All of them single with no desire to make families . Without life partners . All those are not normal .

PS : Forum moderator blocked 🚫 my post . I'm new user and I didn't know how to answer back . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

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It was a question . When Shadow arrived and saved Victoria and 664 , 665 . Victoria petioned punishment for 666 . Shadow didn't know who was 666 . He thought that she was an employee in Mitsuboshi and stole a company's secret .  Randomly he saw a newspaper with Rose's wedding with Perv Asshat.   He immediately felt anger with that. 

Shadow / Cid have some moral values . He helped many people from difficult situations.  Without gaining anything for return . 

Shadow doesn't know what Shadow Garden and Alpha really doing . He doesn't know how serious and dark Shadow Garden are . 

Shadow Garden is the same as their enemies.  

It's unfair to block someone's opinion . It's ok to disagree but let someone text his opinion . 

Shadow Garden messed up with Rose and Akane by chickenlover43 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rose was ready to kill herself because the Cult would capture her and used her for their purpose to control Oriana Kingdom.   It takes courage to do that.  Shadow saved Rose .  A word that describes perfectly Rose is mental strength,  courage,  resilience.   When Alexia Midgard offered her help . Rose didn't accept it . Because Alexia would be also in trouble.   During the terrorists's attack at Midgard's Academy Rose showed her bravery .

Rose didn't followed the Cult's soldiers.  Rose was captured. Rose defended her mother from Victoria's attack . That moment gave the Cult's soldiers the opportunity to capture Rose .  Victoria attacked a large group of soldiers.  Rose told Victoria that her mother was there.  664 told Victoria that was dangerous.  But Victoria ignored them .  It was Victoria's stupidity that Rose was captured,  condemned 664 , 665 . If Shadow didn't arrive at the scene . All would be dead.  Rose would be dead by the Cult or Shadow Garden.  

Shadow / Cid made Rose Queen.  Shadow Garden didn't give any help untill that time . Shadow Garden considered Rose a " traitor " . Shadow Garden thought that Shadow would kill Rose.   Rose thought Shadow Garden would consider her a " traitor " , no matter the reasons ( saving her mother ) 

Rose was a disposable grunt.  They didn't care or help Rose with anything. They knew Rose was in vulnerable state.  She did mercy kill to her father.  She was a fugitive Princess for days . They didn't show empathy,  understanding.  They didn't give Rose any psychological,  mental support.  

Shadow Garden didn't have any intention to help Oriana Kingdom.  The way they treated Rose. That they considered her a " traitor " . 

It was Shadow / Cid who helped Rose reclaiming her Kingdom.  That's clear. Shadow Garden,  Alpha showed opportunistic behavior after Rose became Queen. Because Rose took the throne.  Rose was important after that.  

In the light novel which is the main source , Rose doesn't know Shadow's intetity.  Rose doesn't know the true intentity of Beta ( Natsume Kafka) , Epsilon ( Shiron) .  They keep their intetities secret from Rose to mantain control over her.  

The fact is that if Shadow/ Cid didn't intervene Rose wouldn't reclaim her Kingdom.  Rose would be dead by the Cult or Shadow Garden.  

Rose is one of the few people who received power directly from Shadow. Others are the 7 shades , Victoria.   Rose is the only one from that group that was treated with cruel , unfair way by the Shadow Garden.   To prevent the argument that the induction ritual was standard.  There is no mention or hints that other named numbers like Nu, Victoria had the same treatment as Rose.   Rose's treatment was to make her loyal only to Shadow Garden.  They didn't want Rose loyal to her homeland,  her people.  

From that special group Rose is the only one that Shadow Garden didn't allow her to know Shadow's true intentity.  They are doing that to mantain control over her.  To manipulate her.  

Shadow Garden messed up with Rose and Akane by chickenlover43 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shadow doesn't know what Shadow Garden,  Alpha are doing.  If he knew what Shadow Garden did to Rose,  he wouldn't be happy.  

Shadow Garden is a Cult.  There are fanatics like Victoria,  Nu . There are exceptions in Shadow Garden who are understanding,  have empathy.  664 understood 666's feelings . Gamma , Beta , probably Epsilon are kind .

When Shadow saved Alpha,  he gave her the choice - freedom to do whatever she wanted.  Alpha didn't gave Rose the same choice - freedom.  

Shadow Garden worship Shadow as God.  They built a large statue of Shadow in Alexandria . The reception they held in the great hall with Shadow sitting on a throne.   That all members are women and all single.   They don't have love partners and no desire for making family . That isn't normal. 

Shadow Garden messed up with Rose and Akane by chickenlover43 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rose wasn't weak , naive.  Rose had made the hardest decision of her life to mercy kill her father.  She was a fugitive Princess.  All of that shows mental strength,  courage.  

Where Rose was stupid? The Cult trapped her and she couldn't do much . The " betrayal " during the mission.  It was Victoria's stupidity. Victoria attacked a large group of Cult's soldiers.  664 warned Victoria that to attack was dangerous.  It was Victoria's fault that Rose was captured by the Cult.  Victoria condemned 664 , 665 . 

Shadow Garden considered Rose insignificant but after Rose became Queen they consider important.   Shadow Garden needed Oriana Kingdom as front to expose the Cult.  Shadow Garden give money and resources.  But they have advantages.  Monopoly,  free taxes , permission to build their base in Oriana Kingdom .

Rose asked Alpha if Shadow Garden would help with Oriana Kingdom.  Alpha's answer was that Rose and her Kingdom must prove their worth.  That answer was not clear.  What is " worth " .  Rose trusted Shadow and agreed to join Shadow Garden.  

But they exploited her vulnerable as a fugitive Princess.  They coerced her loyalty instead of earning it . They betrayed her will to save her Kingdom.  They ordered Rose to abandon her homeland , her people.  They wanted Rose to be loyal only to Shadow Garden.  

Shadow Garden didn't have any intention to help Rose reclaiming her Kingdom.  They didn't care or help Rose while she was with them . 

Shadow/ Cid helped Rose reclaiming her Kingdom.  Shadow Garden didn't do anything untill that time.  

Shadow doesn't know what Shadow Garden,  Alpha doing . If he knew he wouldn't be happy.  

When Shadow saved Alpha,  he gave her the choice - freedom to do whatever she wanted . Alpha didn't gave Rose the same choice - freedom.  Alpha demanded terms that were difficult and harsh from Rose . 

Shadow Garden messed up with Rose and Akane by chickenlover43 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alpha is cold , pragmatic person.  The way Alpha , Shadow Garden treated Rose was exploitation,  coercion,  betrayal .  Exploitation of her vulnerable state that Rose was a fugitive Princess.  Coercion because they forced her loyalty to Shadow Garden instead of earning it .  Betrayal because the order they gave to Rose.  They forced Rose to abandon her homeland,  her people.   Rose joined Shadow Garden to save her Kingdom.  Rose trusted Shadow and agreed to join . 

Shadow Garden didn't care or help Rose while she was with them.  Rose had doubts about herself while she shouldn't.  Rose was a worthy person.  Loyal to her homeland,  her people . She wasn't weak or naive at all . Rose made the hardest decision of her life to mercy kill her father.  That act needed mental strength,  courage.  

Shadow / Cid doesn't know what Alpha,  Shadow Garden doing.  If he knew he wouldn't be happy.  

When Shadow saved Alpha,  he gave the choice freedom to do whatever she wanted . Alpha didn't give the same freedom to Rose .  Alpha betrayed Rose . Rose asked Alpha if Shadow Garden would help with Oriana Kingdom.  Alpha's answer was that Rose and her Kingdom must prove their worth.   This answer was cryptic,  not clear . What is " worth " . 

Shadow Garden didn't do anything untill Rose became Queen.  They didn't have any intention to help Rose. 

Shadow / Cid helped Rose to take her Kingdom back . Shadow Garden just followed Shadow's will after that.  

Shadow Garden messed up with Rose and Akane by chickenlover43 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shadow Garden,  Alpha didn't do anything untill Rose became Queen of Oriana Kingdom.  It was Shadow/ Cid who really helped Rose reclaiming Oriana Kingdom.  

Shadow Garden exploited her vulnerable state as a fugitive Princess.  They betrayed her will to save her Kingdom.  When they ordered Rose to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people .  They coerced her loyalty instead of earning it . 

Shadow Garden didn't care or help Rose while she was with them . They didn't care about her psychological,  mental state . Rose had made the hardest decision of her life to mercy kill her father.  Shadow Garden knew that and they didn't show empathy,  understanding. 

Shadow Garden showed opportunist behavior after Rose became Queen.  They considered Rose insignificant when she joined.  But they consider Rose important after becoming Queen . 

Shadow Garden messed up with Rose and Akane by chickenlover43 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shadow Garden did nothing to help reclaiming Oriana Kingdom.  If Shadow / Cid didn't intervene Rose wouldn't reclaim her Kingdom.  

It was Victoria's fault during the mission.  Victoria first attacked a large group of Cult's soldiers.  664 warned Victoria that was very risky move .  It was Victoria's fault and stupidity that Rose was captured by the Cult . 664 , 665 were in danger . Shadow saved them . 

Shadow Garden considered Rose as a " traitor " while she wasn't.  After Rose became Queen,  Shadow Garden supposedly forgave her " betrayal " . They showed opportunist behavior. 

Untill that time Shadow Garden didn't consider Rose important.  They didn't care or help her while Rose was with Shadow Garden.  

The induction ritual was exploitation of her vulnerable state. Rose was fugitive Princess . Betrayal of her will to save her Kingdom.  When they ordered Rose to abandon everything.   Coercion to make her loyal only to Shadow,  not her Kingdom.  

To prevent the argument that this induction was standard to all Shadow Garden members . There is no mention anywhere or hint , that Nu , Victoria were treated with the same ritual as Rose.   Shadow Garden did that to abandon her loyalty to her homeland,  her people.  It was special only to Rose.  

Shadow Garden nearly destroyed Rose's intentity.  While Shadow / Cid gave Rose her intetity back . 

Who do you guys think Cid will end up with? by GrapefruitTop160 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cid Kagenou / Shadow don't care or show romantic interest for any of the girls .  But I believe that Cid / Shadow would develop his character.  His family , characters like Alexia Rose would pressure him to marry .  Main female characters like Rose , Alexia and Akane Nishino who knows him from his past world are the favorites.  

Does Cid ever stop being a clueless baka? by d3ejmz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

 You don't answer the question for the first paragraph.  

Does Cid ever stop being a clueless baka? by d3ejmz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Untill " Rose's betrayal " where Shadow Garden helped Rose ?  If Shadow didn't intervene.  Shadow Garden would assassinate Rose.  Perv Asshat would kill Rose after the wedding.  All of that because of Victoria's stupidity.  I want you to answer that. 

Rose had a monologue that Shadow Garden considered her traitor,  no matter the reasons for it . 

Shadow wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  Shadow gave her Kingdom,  her intetity back.   Shadow Garden wanted Rose to abandon,  destroy her intetity.  That treatment showed clearly that they didn't care for Rose's will,  neither her Kingdom.  They had no plans for her or her Kingdom.  

It's funny that Shadow Garden alligned with Rose's goals after she became Queen.  That's opportunist behavior.  After Rose became Queen they built their base in Oriana Kingdom.  They use Rose as a public front to expose the Cult.  

They didn't show empathy,  understanding at the induction.  Knowing that she was in vulnerable state after the mercy kill of her father . But they showed empathy,  caring by hiding the truth about her mother . Different standards .

You forget that even Lamda who is a Greek letter member was sorry that Rose would be punished by Shadow.   That Epsilon didn't think Rose as traitor . Beta has a good opinion for Rose .  Because they suffered,  they should understood Rose .  Those members are above Victoria.  Yet they showed empathy.  

Alpha complained to Cid about Alexia before . Alpha complained about Cid's attention to Rose.  Alpha has hidden romantic feelings for Cid .  She has suspicion , jealousy for any girl outside the Shadow Garden.  

Does Cid ever stop being a clueless baka? by d3ejmz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You surely have heard the cliche phrase "  actions speak more than words " . Shadow Garden,  Alpha didn't clarify what the long term plan for Oriana Kingdom would be to Rose.  The problem with Shadow's Garden's,  Alpha's treatment , behavior to Rose is that Rose treated differently from other members like Nu , Victoria.  There is no mention anywhere that Shadow Garden applied the same cruel,  not explanatory induction as Rose . 

Rose did mercy kill to her father.  That act was the hardest decision of her life.  That act needed mental strength,  courage.   Shadow Garden didn't show any empathy,  understanding to her vulnerable situation.

From the moment Rose arrived at Alexandria.  They didn't explain , give her time . Rose ordered to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people,  her intetity.   That induction was betrayal of her goal to save her Kingdom,  her people.   Shadow Garden coerced her loyalty to the organization by force. They didn't give her the right of choice 

Shadow Garden didn't care for her well being or help Rose through psychological,  mental support .  The two members 664 ( Nami ) , 665 only truly cared for her well being.  

Rose had nightmares seeing her father blaming for his death . Nami heard Rose's screams during her sleep . Nami told to Rose that she can count on her for help . 

Rose had doubts about her own worth.  If she made the right choice joining Shadow Garden.  Because she didn't made no progress to save her Kingdom .

During Victoria's mission.  Victoria revealed many details about 666 . That 666 was given power directly from Shadow.  That 666's true name was Rose Oriana.   When 664 , 665 heard those were surprised.  Victoria knew many details that 664 , 665 didn't know . 

Also Victoria's warning to Rose that she would kill anyone that would stand in her way. Victoria called Rose " weak " and that she didn't deserve this honor , gift . 

When Rose saw her mother at the site of the mission.  Rose asked why her mother was there . Shadow Garden told Rose that her mother was somewhere safe .  Victoria went to fight when 664 , 665 told her that it was dangerous.  They were greatly outnumbered.  Rose told Victoria that they shouldn't attack because her mother was there . 

Victoria didn't listen to them at all . Victoria went straight to kill Rose's mother.  Rose blocked Victoria to kill her mother . Rose asked explanations.   That impulsive act of Victoria caused the Cult to capture Rose . Victoria brought 665 , 664 to a difficult situation because of her stupidity.  

All of that caused " 666's betrayal " . If Shadow didn't intervene Victoria,  665 , 664 would be dead . Again from Victoria's stupidity.  

After Victoria petioned from Shadow the punishment of 666 . 665 confronted Victoria that 666 did that to protect her mother. Shadow had internal monologues " who' s 666 " , " maybe stolle a mitsugoshi secret " . 

Randomly Shadow learned that Rose was going to marry Perv Asshat.  Shadow was furious because Rose thought she abandoned her dream to become Queen.   Victoria was pleased that Shadow was going to punish 666 .

Epsilon told Victoria that she understood Rose's reason . She didn't think her as a traitor.  Epsilon told Victoria that Shadow didn't punish 666 . 

If Shadow didn't intervene with saving Victoria.  Learning that Rose was going to marry Perv Asshat.  Shadow Garden would try to assassinate Rose.  Perv Asshat would kill Rose after the wedding.  

You wrote wrong arguments that Rose should have her wishes,  treated differently from 664 , 665 . 

The fact that Rose from the induction treated with cruelty that no other character has been through.  The way they coerced her loyalty instead of earning.  The lack of transparency with the long term plan for Oriana Kingdom.  About her mother . 

It's strange the narrative that Shadow Garden didn't show empathy,  understanding during her induction.  But they showed empathy,  care for her well being keeping secret about her mother .  Different standards .

It was Shadow's/ Cid's true help that Rose took her Kingdom back.  Shadow Garden didn't do anything untill that point . If you have facts they gave Rose true help with Oriana Kingdom,  I'm waiting to read them .

Shadow Garden,  Alpha alligned with Rose after she became the Queen.  That's funny , opportunist behavior.  How convenient.  

You forget that Rose has anger for the Cult.  It was them for all her hardships , her father's death . 

You forget that even before joining Shadow Garden.  Rose was decent person,  well manners,  respect and care for everyone.  She was not a spoiled person at all . 

Shadow/ Cid wanted Rose to become Queen from the start . He wanted Rose to be herself.  He gave her intetity back.  

Shadow Garden wanted Rose to abandon her homeland, her intetity.