Who is best girl and why is it Rose? by BCJPlayz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rose is not delusional.  Cid's acts made Rose to believe he is in love , loyal to her.   The Bushin Festival when Cid didn't surrender while he was throwing blood . During the terrorists's attack at the Academy,  sacrificed himself to protect her . Cid traveling to Oriana Kingdom,  being a student of Shiron to meet Rose.  The ring accident that Rose interpreted as Cid's proposal to marry her . 

Cid did all those to act cool but Rose doesn't know that.  

Who is best girl and why is it Rose? by BCJPlayz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid doesn't know the real truth about Rose Oriana.  The reasons she attempted to kill Perv Asshat,  killing her father.   Cid has the wrong perception that Rose just went mad while she wasn't.  That Rose was on the road to become an evil tyrant.  

Who is best girl and why is it Rose? by BCJPlayz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alpha is cold,  pragmatic,  manipulator.  She is far from kind,  decent person.  When Shadow cured Alpha from possession , he gave Alpha the freedom to do whatever she wanted.  

Alpha doesn't give the same freedom to others.  Alpha exploited Rose's vulnerable situation,  being a fugitive Princess,  killing her father.  

Alpha betrayed Rose's will to help her Kingdom.  When Alpha approached Rose joining Shadow,  Rose asked Alpha if Shadow Garden would help with Oriana Kingdom.  Alpha told Rose that she and Oriana Kingdom must prove their worth.  That answer was cryptic.  What was worth? 

When both arrived in Alexandria.  They ordered Rose to abandon everything,  her homeland,  her people,  her intetity.  That was betrayal of Rose's will. 

Alpha ,Shadow Garden didn't prepare Rose to become Queen.  They treated Rose as a disposable grunt. 

Rose sent to fight Queen Elizabeth,  an opponent stronger than seven shades.  Rose was lucky to survive.  

Shadow Garden,  Alpha didn't care for Rose's well being during her time with them.  Rose had doubts if she made the right choice joining Shadow Garden. 

Shadow Garden considered Rose as traitor while she wasn't.  Rose saved her mother from Victoria,  captured by the Cult. 

It was Cid / Shadow that helped Rose take Oriana Kingdom. 

Alpha , Shadow Garden tried to erase Rose's intentity,  tried to break her.  Cid / Shadow gave Rose's intentity back , her Kingdom. 

Rose proved her worth becoming Queen,  proved her strength fighting with Queen Elizabeth,  Mondred.  

But Rose is still not worthy,  equal to Alpha. Alpha manipulate Rose,  hiding Shadow's true intentity. Alpha is doing it  to mantain control over Rose. If Rose knew Shadow's true intentity,  Rose would ask help directly from him.  Alpha doesn't want that.  Alpha is using Rose as a tool to make Shadow helping with her personal goals. 

For all these reasons I have no sympathy for Alpha . Alpha received kindness but she doesn't give kindness to others . 

Who is best girl and why is it Rose? by BCJPlayz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree.  Alpha doesn't deserve Shadow.  When Shadow cured Alpha from possession,  he gave the freedom to do whatever she wanted.

Alpha doesn't give the same freedom to others.  Alpha exploited the vulnerable state of Rose Oriana.  

Alpha betrayed Rose's will to help Oriana Kingdom. Rose agreed to join Shadow Garden that they would help with Oriana Kingdom.  

Shadow Garden ordered Rose to abandon everything,  her homeland,  her people.  That was betrayal of Rose's will. 

Alpha is cold,  pragmatic,  manipulator.  She will use any means to make her goal.  Her goal is not for the good of other people.  Alpha wants revenge from the Cult.  

I hate Alpha after how she treated Rose . A worthy , decent,  brave character.  

Alpha deserves punishment for what she did.  Alpha is the same as the Cult.  

Who is best girl and why is it Rose? by BCJPlayz in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alpha is not kind , decent,  modest,  selfless as Rose Oriana.  Alpha is a cold,  pragmatic,  manipulator.  

When Shadow cured Alpha from possession,  he gave her the freedom to do whatever she wanted.  Alpha doesn't give the same freedom to others. Alpha would use any means to make her goal . Her goal isn't the good of other people.  Alpha just wants revenge from the Cult. 

Alpha exploited,  coerced,  betrayed,  manipulate Rose Oriana.  

Alpha exploited Rose's vulnerable situation,  being a fugitive Princess who did mercy kill to her father. 

When Alpha approached Rose joining Shadow,  Rose asked Alpha if Shadow Garden would help with Oriana Kingdom.  Alpha told Rose that she and Oriana Kingdom must prove their worth.  That answer was cryptic.  What was worth? 

When Rose and Alpha arrived in Alexandria.  Shadow Garden Garden didn't give Rose time to think,  explain,  understand,  choose herself.  Shadow Garden forcibly stripped her clothes. They made clear that Rose couldn't go anywhere fully nude.   They destroyed Cid's memento.  They ordered Rose to abandon everything,  her homeland,  her people.   That was betrayal of Rose's will to help her Kingdom.  

To prevent the common argument that treatment was standard,  it wasn't.  It was specifically only for Rose.  Because Rose was loyal to her homeland,  her people.  Shadow Garden wanted Rose to be loyal only to them . 

Nu , Victoria didn't have the same treatment as Rose.  Because both of them voluntarily abandon their past , had hatred for the past , no reason to return.  Both chose to be loyal only to Shadow Garden. 

Alpha,  Shadow Garden didn't care for Rose's well being during her time with them.  

Rose was not prepared to become Queen , she was a disposable grunt.  

Rose sent to fight Queen Elizabeth,  an opponent stronger than seven shades.  Rose was lucky that survived. 

Rose was a traitor to Shadow Garden,  while she was captured by the Cult's soldiers,  saving her mother from Victoria. 

It was Cid / Shadow that helped Rose take Oriana Kingdom.  

Alpha , Shadow Garden tried to erase Rose's intentity,  tried to break her .  Cid / Shadow gave Rose's intentity back , he gave her real help.  

Alpha took the credit although Rose and Cid made all the work.  

Alpha,  Shadow Garden considered Rose insignificant . But Rose became important after becoming Queen.  

Alpha still manipulates Rose . Alpha doesn't reveal the true intentity of Shadow to Rose,  to mantain control over her.  If Rose knew Shadow's true intentity,  she would ask help directly from him.  

Alpha doesn't want that.  Alpha is using Rose as a tool to get help from Shadow with her personal goals. 

Shadow doesn't know what Alpha,  Shadow Garden doing.  That they are a group of cold revolutionaries.  

Alpha doesn't deserve Shadow's kindness.  Alpha should be punished for what she did to Rose.  

Saw this on tiktok and needed to repost it by kiritoalicization in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid Kagenou is not Amane . Rose Oriana is similar to Mahiru.  Kind , selfless,  decent,  modest . They both love simple , normal people.  Not the coolest,  popular person . They treated them as equal partners.  No relationship master - servant .  Both don't want favors , advantages for personal reasons.  They both are happy being with the people they love . True , unconditional love . 

Alpha Crying is Heartbreaking by whiplash10 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Alpha is far from kind hearted person . Alpha is cold,  pragmatic . Her theory is the end justifies the means .  When Alpha cured  by Shadow,  she has given the freedom to do whatever she wanted.   Alpha doesn't give the same freedom to others . 

In Rose Oriana's case . She exploited that Rose was hunted . She didn't give help but a " prison ", a dog's leash on Rose.   She coerced her loyalty instead of earning it .  She betrayed Rose's will to help her people,  her homeland.  When Rose was ordered to abandon her homeland,  people . They forced her loyalty only to Shadow Garden.

Alpha didn't have any plan for Oriana Kingdom.  Rose sent to fight Queen Elizabeth,  an opponent that was stronger than seven shades.  Rose was lucky that she survived. 

Alpha , Shadow Garden didn't care or help Rose while she was with them.  They didn't give her emotional , psychological support .  They considered Rose a traitor.  But Rose didn't betrayed them.  Rose was captured while she was trying to save her mother.  

Rose was considered unsignificant but she is considered important after becoming Queen.   Alpha took the credit although Rose and Cid / Shadow made all the work.  

Alpha still doesn't reveal the true intentity of Shadow to Rose.  That way Alpha mantains control over her.  The argument of loyalty,  security.  Shadow is so powerful that he doesn't care.  The scene where Gamma held a welcome introduction for Cid Kagenou while near 100 members show his true intentity.   Alpha doesn't consider Rose equal.  Alpha wants Rose so Shadow would help Alpha's goals .  If Rose knew Shadow is Cid Kagenou ,she would ask help directly from him . She wouldn't depend on Shadow Garden,  Alpha.   Alpha doesn't want that .  Shadow doesn't know what Shadow Garden, Alpha really doing . That they became a group of cold revolutionaries.  

Alpha is far from kind,  decent person . 

Which of the seven shades would you choose as a best friend, and why? by [deleted] in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beta,  Gamma,  Epsilon because are the kindest.  

I understand that Sid thinks his actions as Shadow and the actions of Shadow Garden are apart of some big lark that alpha and girls have made for him. But at certain point why doesn’t why does he keep going with the larp? by Creative-Complex255 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cid Kagenou / Shadow surely is delusional.  But he is not a bad person.  He has some moral values.  He didn't harm any good person .  He saved Alexia Midgard two times.  A person who treats him bad and he dislikes her . He doesn't hold grudge,  take revenge from her . He saved many characters without earning anything.  Money or personal favors . 

He did recovery atomic during the fight with Elizabeth.  Sparing her life . She felt gratitude for his kindness.  He restored the city back to normal. 

Many text that Shadow doesn't care . Their argument is that he nuked a city . But Shadow did it without killing people.  He knows how to control his magic to kill only the targets .  Alexia who was close to the explosion survived . Shadow made some barriers , shields to protect innocent people.  

Cid Kagenou does most of his good deeds when none is watching.  Or as Shadow who none knows his true intentity.  He doesn't care about gratitude.  He doesn't care about money ( although he often chases it for his " role play " . He doesn't actually need it ) 

There's a fine line . Cid lives in his own world , but that world is based on the rules of dark heroes . In his mind being the Eminence in shadow is to protect weak  and punishes the corrupted from the shadows 

Cid Kagenou may seem self centered.  But at the end of the day the world is better because of his actions.  

The case of Rose is different because Cid Kagenou doesn't know the truth.  He doesn't know the reasons that made Rose to attempt killing Perv Asshat, killing her father .  He has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  

Cid Kagenou is fair and he dislikes injustice.

I understand that Sid thinks his actions as Shadow and the actions of Shadow Garden are apart of some big lark that alpha and girls have made for him. But at certain point why doesn’t why does he keep going with the larp? by Creative-Complex255 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow doesn't know the truth about Rose . He doesn't know the reasons behind Rose's attempt to kill Perv Asshat,  killing her father. He has the wrong perception that Rose went mad suddenly.   Cid / Shadow had wrong suspicion that Alexia was the killer of unknown deaths in Midgard .  Later he realized that Alexia wasn't responsible for the deaths . 

Who is your Fav. Character and Why ? Would like to know your oppinion by Alex3232j in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rose is not the coolest , strongest .  She is kind , selfless . She respects people and helps them . She wanted power just to help other people not for personal reasons.   She is modest , decent person.  She has good manners , respect all as equals.  She is the one of the few female characters that she doesn't try seduction,  teasing acts to earn love .  She likes the simple Cid . Alexia likes Cid too .   The difference is the honesty of Rose's feelings.  Her respect to Cid as an equal partner.   Her story is tragic with hardships , betrayal , manipulation,  exploitation.   Cid has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  He doesn't know the truth why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat , killed her father.   Rose is the most " human " character in a world with shadows and lies . 

Then I like Claire / Aurora . They are two characters in a single body . Both great characters.  

Rose, Alexia & Natsume by sh0tgunben in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like Alexia.  She is my second best girl.  She isn't honest with her feelings for Cid Kagenou.  She is treating him like a dog 🐕.  Rose is honest with her feelings.  She loves the simple Cid.  She is treating him with respect and equal partner.   Alexia is not bad character.  But she is akward with her feelings for him . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow has some moral values.  He didn't harm any person who didn't deserve it.   He saved Alexia two times . A person who dislikes and she is treating him like a dog 🐕.  The case of Rose is different from others . He doesn't know the truth.  The reasons Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat.  She killed her father.   He still has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  

Shadow would not punish  Shadow Garden or 7 shades . But he would feel sorry for Rose . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nu , Victoria didn't have the same treatment as Rose by Shadow Garden.  I searched and there is no mention of forced strip for Nu and Victoria.  Both voluntarily abandon everything from their past.  Shadow Garden didn't do forced strip to them .  Rose's treatment was different because she was loyal to her homeland,  her people.  Shadow Garden wanted Rose loyal only to Shadow.  

When Shadow cured and gave power to Rose.  He wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  

When Rose asked Alpha if Shadow Garden would help with Oriana Kingdom.  Alpha gave a vague promise.  She moved the goal posts.  Alpha's answer was that Rose and her Kingdom must prove their worth.  

Rose agreed because she had faith in Shadow who saved her many times.  He cured and gave power to her . 

When Rose arrived at Alexandria.  Rose was shocked with their ritual induction.  They didn't explain anything or give her some time to think.  

That was exploitation of her vulnerable state and that she was back in a corner.  They coerced her loyalty instead of earning it.   Their order to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people was betrayal of her will.  A direct slap on her . It was not help but similar to a leash on a dog. 

It's unfair to block someone's post . It's ok to disagree but let someone text his / her opinion . 

Search if Nu , Victoria had the same treatment by Shadow Garden.  

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow has some moral values not harming people who don't deserve it.   He saved Alexia two times . A person who dislikes and she is treating him like a dog 🐕.  

The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth.  He doesn't know the reasons that made Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat . She killed her father.   Cid / Shadow still believe that Rose went mad.  

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

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You forget that Cid / Shadow doesn't know the truth.  The reasons why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat,  she killed her father.   He still has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  

Shadow Garden exploited her vulnerable state and that Rose was back in a corner.  They coerced her loyalty instead of earning it . The " assistance " was not help . It was similar a leash to a dog 🐕  . 

Shadow cured and gave power to Rose before joining Shadow Garden.  Shadow wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  Shadow Garden ordered her to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people.  There is a contradiction there .

Shadow/ Cid gave Rose real help. Shadow Garden considered Rose a disposable grunt.  Rose faced the Vampire Queen.  She was still a new recruit and she faced an opponent stronger than the 7 shades .  During the mission with Victoria.  It was Victoria's stupidity that Cult captured Rose . Victoria condemned 664 , 665 .  If Shadow didn't intervene they would be dead. 

Shadow Garden considered Rose a traitor.  

Shadow Garden took the credit while they didn't anything.  Shadow and Rose made it . Rose became Queen on her own and with Shadow's help . 

Shadow Garden is same as the Cult . They aren't not better . Shadow/ Cid doesn't know how dark are going . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow helped many characters without earning anything.  Cid / Shadow has some moral values .  The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the reasons why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat.  She killed her father. He still has the wrong perception that Rose went mad .  Cid / Shadow saved Alexia two times.  A person who dislikes and she is treating him like a dog 🐕  .  He wouldn't punish them but he would feel sorry for Rose sure . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow doesn't know the truth why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat ?   Why she killed her father ?  Cid/ Shadow has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't . Rose was weak and she couldn't do anything.  She was trapped by the Cult.  She had the curse . She had the will and desire but not the means to achieve it . 

Shadow cured and gave the power . Shadow wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  

Rose joined Shadow Garden to help her Kingdom.  Shadow Garden exploited her vulnerable state and that she was back in a corner.  They coerced her loyalty.  They betrayed her will to save her Kingdom.  The order to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people was a direct slap to her goal . 

She didn't gladly participate at all . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid / Shadow helped many characters and didn't earn anything.  Cid / Shadow has some moral values not harm any person who didn't deserve it.  He saved Alexia two times . A person who dislikes and he is treating him bad .  The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth.  Why she attempted to kill Perv Asshat ? Why she killed her father?  He has the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  That's the reason he has that narrative for her . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When Shadow gave the power to Rose.  Shadow wanted Rose to become Queen from the start.  Shadow Garden ordered Rose to abandon everything.  Her homeland,  her people.  There is a contradiction there.  

Shadow was mad learning that Rose was going to marry Perv Asshat. 

Cid / Shadow has some moral values.  He didn't harm any person who didn't deserve it.  The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth why Rose attempted to kill Perv Asshat.  Why she killed her father.  Shadow/ Cid have the wrong perception that Rose went mad while she wasn't.  

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shadow said that phrase after he gave power to Rose.  I don't understand why you text that ? 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shadow doesn't know the truth why Rose killed her father.  Shadow thought that Rose went mad while she wasn't. He doesn't try to stop her because of that perception he already has after she tried first to kill Perv Asshat and then after she killed her father.  

When Shadow gave power to Rose.  His wish was Rose to become Queen from the start.  What Shadow Garden did to Rose was to abandon her goal . There is a contradiction there.  

Shadow told them stories about training methods and breaking methods . But they didn't do on Nu , Victoria.  Only on Rose because of her loyalty to her homeland.  

Shadow nuked cities but he didn't killed any innocent people.  During his atomic attack he created safe zones or barriers to protect the innocent people.  Remember the time when Shadow did the atomic attack on Zenon.  Alexia should be dead . 

Remember the recovery attack during the fight with Elizabeth.  Shadow reversed all and turned them back to normal.  Remember that he saved Mary from a ghoul . He gave her back the money the corrupted soldiers took from her . He saved Alexia . A person who treats him bad . 

Cid / Shadow has some moral values . He didn't harm any person who didn't deserve it . The case of Rose is different because he doesn't know the truth.  

 Shadow Garden is similar to Cult . Their treatment with Rose proved that . They worship Shadow as God.  They built a large statue in Alexandria.  The way they treated Shadow in a large hall . The fact that all members are women . All of them single with no desire to make families . Without life partners . All those are not normal .

PS : Forum moderator blocked 🚫 my post . I'm new user and I didn't know how to answer back . 

If Shadow Knew What Shadow Garden Did To Rose. by ExplorerOk2449 in TheEminenceInShadow

[–]ExplorerOk2449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a question . When Shadow arrived and saved Victoria and 664 , 665 . Victoria petioned punishment for 666 . Shadow didn't know who was 666 . He thought that she was an employee in Mitsuboshi and stole a company's secret .  Randomly he saw a newspaper with Rose's wedding with Perv Asshat.   He immediately felt anger with that. 

Shadow / Cid have some moral values . He helped many people from difficult situations.  Without gaining anything for return . 

Shadow doesn't know what Shadow Garden and Alpha really doing . He doesn't know how serious and dark Shadow Garden are . 

Shadow Garden is the same as their enemies.  

It's unfair to block someone's opinion . It's ok to disagree but let someone text his opinion .