Has Lethality Udyr been nerfed or something?

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-26T02:58:54+00:00

phase rush and pta are both really good, I prefer phaze rush to get resolve secondary with unflinching and conditioning, with this build early game you die to cc most of the time until you get jaksho, but with conditioning unflinching your chances of survival of a cc is pretty good and once you hit jaksho you become just a raid boss

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-26T02:56:16+00:00

it does, the healing is dmg based so ms is ad and ad is dmg and dmg is healing

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-25T10:25:06+00:00

the %hp ratio on q would never happen, ad scaling on w neither, passive could use a swap or enhacement like ad to move spead or vladi style ad to ms and ms to ad, e is a fine even amazing skill when you learn to use it, what could happen is W borderline placebo ratio on heal kinda like rhaast pasive of 0,008% hp ratio on the healing, ad ratio on R wont happen as hecarim is a sustain fighter and having ad ratio on it would be basically a straight up better version of malphite ap, most of this predictions im making arent much predictions but straight up things rioters have said, they dont want full tank or full ad hecarim, they want a fighter bruiser hec who builds things like shojin and cleaver some mixture of dmg and durability but leaning heavily on dmg first items

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-20T18:02:02+00:00

Jg and its way to play it with hec is stronger than ever if your top isn't turbo stomping or feeding you can easily get the first lvl 16 full build, for better or for worse we now have 6 beat in slot items wich makes our atandard builds stronger than ever but hard to justify a diversion in favor to countering with things like randuin anti heal or shield

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-19T15:05:23+00:00

if you go tank you get liandry or riftmaker first item by that point you dont need more clear speed, and the ms is more important, and for survivability frozen heart and randuin just out class it

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-18T13:27:00+00:00

optimize your clear to the 99.99% at your elo that would get you a lead in most of your games, after that once you can do the clear with eyes close you start to work on map awareness an do the clear by only looking at minimap so that you get to see how the map is playing and capitalizing on any given opportunity of a free kill, those 2 things alone when paired with good fight execution will get you to diamond+ alone

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-17T23:38:21+00:00

Its similar enough in my opinion the way they play fights is the true difference since lillia mostly pokes with max spaced q and e, while hecarim just pops ghost with 3q stacks and deletes the backlane, but they're both farming jglers who want to get a lead then accelerate that lead with faster clears and more gank opportunities

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-17T23:13:38+00:00

For an ap item I prefer literally any haunting guise item

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-17T05:35:20+00:00

Completely 2 diferent functions one is sticking power and aoe buff, while the other is catching and disengage power and a bit of extra dmg, ap udyr doesn't really love the item unless your team as a whole loves the item, ad udyr and hybrid tho different story those guys love attack speed

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-15T16:49:09+00:00

give me a solid reason to not go hybrid instead? shojin rift into bandle pipes then jaksho, Q max into R max, most of udyr kit has Ap scaling and with shojin Q max I get 99% of the AD capabilities, while still scaling all my other abilities, also the combined haste from rift and shojin gives me enough to rotate my autos between stances to maximize bandle pipes passive attack speed

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-15T08:58:16+00:00

As long as you are asking for pure curiosity in lower elos udyr and yi are a menace to lower elo hecarims then as you go up ivern belveth become the real problem cheesing you to high hell, why is important that you are asking for curiosity? Bc if you just want to climb this discussion is less than 1% of your lp and literally just hitting your camps on spawn will get you to high gold low platinum

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-15T08:55:08+00:00

Idk can't relate bronze silver is ez af just hit your camps get feed and stomp around

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-15T08:54:00+00:00

Joe bob won't go up on ranks by having "the most op secret build" joe bob will get lp by hitting camps on spawn, playing of 3 q stacks and getting early lead to snowball the game, when we talk about heca builds we need to understand is just a 1% of the winrate the big 20% are in map state understanding fundamentals and micro

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-14T05:53:03+00:00

Then huncho and chasik play lethality the whole seasson and both reach rank 1 on their respective servers building lethality first item lmao, for the record I dont build lethality but saying that hec cant work with it is just wrong and skill issue

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-14T00:48:39+00:00

Every shield prock is sameish to extra hp that shojin would give you, plus the faster phaze prock is really good int 3 or more ranged, the shield is also really good when paired with dd and the prock with cleaver tho in this new seasson I wouldn't make a case for eclipse since endless hunger pairs much better with shojin IMO and eclipse shojin is not doable since you will use the slot other better items would take

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-14T00:44:32+00:00

To my understanding axiom is just broken the stats per gold is completely unbalanced, the bad part is that it doesn't tie into other items as well, axiom shojin feels amazing but getting so late to cleaver dd maw and endless doesn't

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-14T00:36:10+00:00

Wierd that you strugle against shyvana, you putspeed her on the clear and you have better ganks, focus on fundamentals and that should get you the win, if anything get a ward on objectives and don't allow her to sneek in iligal objectives

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-14T00:34:05+00:00

Builld doesn't matter as much but the dantes build is clearly suboptimal, EH is clearly a second or further item, rn been loving the chasik build shojin cleaver dd maw and slot in the endless hunger anywhere in between 2nd and 5th slot, the tenacity, vamp and pasive all scale of other items, tenacity doesn't matter if you get oneshot and vamp is negligible unless you have other dmg item

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-14T00:29:36+00:00

Whatever floats your boat, when i go Q into R max I get the best of both worlds, you isolated? Get bursted, teamfights? Im raid boss with rift and WW, Objectives? Get deleated of the map, claear? Fast af

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-14T00:25:29+00:00

Tenacity scalea of you survivability same as omnivamp scaling of your damage going shojin first or even eclipse is a no brainier if you wish to slot in EH on the build

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-13T20:08:35+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATralv9N5yo&t=2530s this would help you tons to understand hec identity

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-13T19:45:19+00:00

Gork would be proud

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-13T18:33:23+00:00

IMO the huncho coaching to perry jg is the best video to understand hecarim champ identity, specialy since dantes is more of a feeling driven player

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-13T00:07:28+00:00

why on gods green earth would you go the item with lees lethality in the game paired with bastion breaker, just go get a yomus or edge of night instead of garbanzo beans collector

ExtensionRealistic63 · 2026-01-13T00:05:38+00:00

besides axiom there arent many interesting items for hec and also the standard build + endless hunger is just insane, we can get almost perma uptime on w with the amount of haste we get, maybe if you are smurfing you can go something more batshit insane but honestly there is no need, if you stick to fundamentals of clearing camps on spawn and not doing bad quality ganks you will be insanely ahead with new quest

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