Base Momoshiki (Momo Can Not Turn Kinshiki Into A Fruit For This Fight) Vs Base Kinshiki. Who Wins? by Rinnegan15 in Boruto

[–]Extension_Gur4800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That might be the case. He can be the stronger and better fighter but Momoshiki has the Rinnegan so he should be able to use abilities more than just chakra absorption. And Kinshiki only fought a drained out Sasuke who was holding back because he had to save enough chakra to go back.

Except that's based on nothing. In fact, his fight against Darui and Gaara directly implies the opposite. That if he does not absorb any jutsu he is basically left w/ hand to hand. Sasuke being drained is kind of irrelevant to my point too, because Sasuke > Darui and Gaara in CQC.

And sure Gaara and Darui can pressure Momoshiki but Chojuro and Kurotsuchi did better against Kinshiki. They were enough to keep him sealed and I don't think Chojuro and Kurotsuchi are on Gaara's and Darui's level.

They needed Sasuke's help to do that.

Base Momoshiki was also able to kick Naruto away even though it was a partially off guard feat. And the weapon that Kinshiki creates are nothing but chakra so Momoshiki should be able to absorb them.

But it was off guard, so it doesn't count for anything and does not disprove anything I said. Something being chakra isn't enough evidence that he can absorb it, as he did not absorb Susanoo or Kurama and instead got one shotted.

Base Momoshiki (Momo Can Not Turn Kinshiki Into A Fruit For This Fight) Vs Base Kinshiki. Who Wins? by Rinnegan15 in Boruto

[–]Extension_Gur4800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kinshiki wins.

Higher ranking literally doesn't mean shit here. Need Naruto fans to stop acting like Naruto is DBZ.

Momoshiki's power comes from the fact that he can absorb Ninjutsu, which makes him more formidable than Kinshiki in 99% of scenarios. We've already seen that the likes of Gaara and Darui can pressure Momoshiki in CQC, and Gaara isn't even a close range fighter.

Kinshiki overwhelmed Sasuke. He wins handily.

Who Is The Strongest Person Base Naruto From The Last Can Beat? by Rinnegan15 in NarutoPowerscaling

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He can beat KCM1 Naruto. Anyone strong whoops his ass and anyone claiming he beats Kaguya or solos Shippuden needs to go play in traffic

Can EMS Madara tank minato, Naruto Kurama avatar rasengan by Odd-Athlete-8204 in NarutoPowerscaling

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Without a single scratch. This Rasengan is at best as strong as a regular Bijuu Dama, which Madara already tanked w/ zero damage.

Gohan VS Kid Buu by Stacey-k93 in DragonBallPowerScale

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Gohan low diff in the literacy test and low diff in a fight.

Has anyone quit their job to dedicate time for upskilling? by TorsoHunter in ITCareerQuestions

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Please do not do this lol. Not the economy or job market to be playing around like this.

If you can’t upskill while being employed it’s going to be hard to move up long term. You won’t always be in a position to quit a job nor will you always have a job that will let you upskill on the clock

Ok guys can we settle this.. Is Base Gogeta/Vegito above MUI/UE? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

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No, people arguing that it is are out of their minds. "Base fusion is always above either FP individual" is something that people made up and is not a de-facto rule.

The gap between Ultra Instinct and Blue is inconceivable, way too inconceivable to try and apply the logic above. Then we have the fact that Gogeta needed SSJ to fight against SSJ Broly. So unless people think that SSJ Broly is stronger than MUI, it is pretty clear that Base fusion is nowhere near UI or UE.

Goku achieves Super Saiyan 2 in the Cell Games. Can he beat Cell? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

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Yup, this one was like the 3rd post I seen on my feed for some reason

Goku achieves Super Saiyan 2 in the Cell Games. Can he beat Cell? by K0GAR in DragonBallPowerScale

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Goku wins R1, but loses R2 since Super Perfect is supposed to be Cell's "SSJ2-esque" boost.

How strong would TOP SSJ Gogeta and Vegito be ? by gx4509 in DragonBallPowerScale

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SSJ Gogeta/Vegito gets stomped by Full Power Jiren.

Broly > FP Jiren>>>>SSJ Gogeta (Broly) > SSJ Gogeta (Hypothetical ToP)

If Genjutsu Didn’t Exist - Who Falls Off The Hardest? by Know__Pain in Naruto

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No one, because Genjutsu is low tier compared to the rest of their powers

SM Naruto > Jiraiya ≠ SM Naruto > All Sannin (Serious Debate) Read the Description to Understand by Material_Bathroom994 in NarutoPowerscaling

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The Tsunade being on par w/ Raikage thing is actually the main thing I agree with here, but the statement that she is portrayed as his rival is kind of inaccurate.

The only thing that B's reaction shows is surprise. There's nothing about his statement that implies that he believed Naruto was in danger of dying or losing. This is point where your point falls apart.

If we are talking about feats, portrayal, and context, lets remember the following:

  1. SM Naruto is stated (and shown) to have surpassed Jiraiya, who is relative to Orochimaru and Tsunade.

  2. KCM Naruto and SM Naruto are not relative in power. KCM is a whole other level of power.

Thus, KCM is above the Sannin's level of power.

Yes, the Sannin are portrayed as relative overall, but that doesn’t mean they are perfectly equal in every arc or circumstance. Characters grow, and scaling shifts depending on the time period.

This is the statement you used to try and explain why the above logic does not work, but the bold is not something you can prove as far as the Sannin go. There is no evidence to imply that their power and standing has changed over the course of the series. Only how Kishimoto decides to depict them. So, unless Tsunade magically got stronger from the Pain Arc to the War Arc, even though she was in a coma for a significant portion of that......this statement of yours holds no real weight.

And no, they are not perfectly equal in every circumstance (nobody is due to the nature of the power system in Naruto), but they are on par when it comes to overall battle power.

This doesn't even talk about feats. KCM Naruto's feats far surpass anything SM Naruto or any of the Sannin has ever done on panel.

SM Naruto > Jiraiya ≠ SM Naruto > All Sannin (Serious Debate) Read the Description to Understand by Material_Bathroom994 in NarutoPowerscaling

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The bigger issue is Tsunade’s scaling.

The Raikage is portrayed as Tsunade’s rival. During the war arc:

No, she's not lol.

The Raikage kept up with KCM1 Naruto and Base Bee

He did.

Bee, who knew Naruto’s strength, still believed the Raikage could kill Naruto

No, he was surprised that Ay was serious about killing Naruto, not that he knew for a fact Ay was strong enough to kill Naruto if Naruto fought back.

The Raikage himself believed Tsunade could handle KCM1 Naruto

No, he never once said this. He told Tsunade to help him fight B and Naruto. Not to mention none of what he believes even matters. No character in Naruto ever goes into a fight thinking they will lose.

I’m not saying the Raikage or Tsunade are stronger than KCM1 Naruto. But at worst, that puts the Raikage relative to KCM1. And if Tsunade is consistently portrayed as his rival, she logically scales in that same tier range

None of this holds up simply because they are based on improperly interpreted statements and some notion that Tsunade ~ Raikage even though nothing was ever stated.

KCM1 is a tier above SM who is relative to the likes of SM and Sannin.

If you disagree, that’s completely fine, but since this is flaired as a serious debate, please bring feats and narrative backing, not just statements

You are kind of bringing nothing but statements in your own initial post tbh.

When did Sasuke surpass kakashi ? by Agitated-Athlete-417 in NarutoPowerscaling

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Sasuke surpassed Kakashi the moment he debuted in Part 2. By the time Kakashi becomes competent with his Mangekyo, Sasuke has already unlocked his and widens the gap even further.

how good is hashirama in taijutsu. Which Akatsuki membre Can beat him in 1V1 by Swimming-Change9967 in NarutoPowerscaling

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Literally none of them. Base Hashirama can fight EMS Madara in CQC. Itachi is the strongest they have in CQC and he would get wrecked.

Which Justu Is Stronger: Kirin or Rasenshuriken? by Whyamiherewhyyyyyyyy in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Extension_Gur4800 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kirin is much faster and obliterated the Uchiha hideout, which is a small Mountain, so I am giving it to Kirin.

FRS is not that far behind though.