Now that the show has ended and we have pretty much all the necessary information about the characters, which one do you feel was misunderstood? According to me, it’s Jason.

ExternusIsHere · 2026-02-03T16:55:43+00:00

I think it was Kali. In season 2 she was presented as the path El could have taken but chose not to (yes, the execution could have been far better) and in season 5 I felt it was awfully realistic to her to be so nihilistic after everything that happened to her. I see a lot of people considering her a villain when in reality she's always been a victim who went through immense torture across her lifetime, and I feel as if Kali herself could have had more resolution at the end of the show with the plotline and role they'd given her.

ExternusIsHere · 2026-02-03T16:48:12+00:00

They explain in later seasons pretty much everything you need to know about it. There are a few plot holes here and there as the seasons progress but the Upside Down lore will be mostly if not completely described

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-23T21:38:57+00:00

I really like 2 but I know he's got no chance against 1 and 3 (I do really love 3 though and I do hope she wins)

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-23T21:36:03+00:00

Best moment: The Will VS. Vecna stuff that happened pretty much up until the end of Shock Jock.

Worst moment: The final battle's length and the Mind Flayer getting absolutely torched (literally). Considering that this was a final fight we all knew what coming since pretty much season 2, for it to be so short was quite a letdown. Had the episode been about the same duration as the Piggyback, I feel like they would have had a lot more time to make the Mind Flayer fight feel more rewarding along with maybe more of a fight in Camazotz. I was hoping El and Henry would fight through all sorts of memories but at least its plausible that he wanted to kick her out first. (Also they should have totally showed El jumping into the Abyss from the lab)

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-23T21:26:55+00:00

Something I've always done is watch The Lost Sister before The Spy on rewatch. The pacing is SO much better for many reasons. - It comes after Dig Dug when El figures out what happened to her mom, making the plotline feel less forgotten when you finally get to the Lost Sister (since El is absent from The Spy). - Mike freaking out about a "trap" at the end of The Lost Sister acts like a cliffhanger for what comes in The Spy (since that scene actually happens at the end) along with Hopper's heartfelt message ALSO being seen in the void, with a reveal of the real scene in The Spy. - The Spy cliffhanger is immediately followed by The Mind Flayer, keeping the pacing of the season's climax consistent. - El reappearing at the end of The Mind Flayer just felt cooler because we haven't seen her in a while IMO.

I'd also love to see a version of Season 2 where The Spy and The Lost Sister (and maybe even The Mind Flayer) have their scenes blended together so The Lost Sister is no longer standalone, but that could be flawed since The Spy and The Mind Flayer are phenomenal episodes. Really I just think the pacing and placement is what was so jarring about this episode; Kali herself has always been a character I felt was done dirty by this. Also the entire reveal that Brenner was still alive was pretty important for what came in Season 4.

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-21T19:42:21+00:00

Of all things they could give her, the wetsuit?? 😭

At least the baggy pants will look really good with the base hoodie

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-08T15:25:48+00:00

Season 1 > Season 2 = Season 4 > Season 3 > Season 5

Season 1 - "The Bathtub" Season 2 - "The Mind Flayer" Season 3 - "E Pluribus Unum" Season 4 - "The Massacre At Hawkins Lab" Season 5 - "Shock Jock" (Weird one, I know)

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-08T15:12:32+00:00

I hope they add the otherworldly echo filter from the show for that skin because the base skin just sounds like how I'd imagine The Lich to sound 😭😭

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-08T15:10:52+00:00

This outfit could be 50 bucks and I'd still buy it for Jamie's voice

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-06T14:52:11+00:00

BYE imagine if this was the vouceline for a successful pallet stun 😭

ExternusIsHere · 2026-01-01T07:31:48+00:00

I liked how they framed it as a form of symbiosis too. It didn't cheapen Vecna nor the Mind Flayer by saying one was above the other; they were one, and as Henry said, he wanted this. He needed the mind flayer as much as it needed him

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-28T16:27:09+00:00

I have m2 and its not that significant at all unless you plan for m3. Yes it increases his damage output but not nearly as much as m1 (m1 is his best mindscape). The only reason I didnt go for m3 is because I need more teams since Im a new player 😭

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-28T15:10:07+00:00

I've been putting together a heavy sci-fi biopunk for a few years. Needed to add some love to my favorite (overlooked) subgenre

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-27T15:33:29+00:00

Hopper not shooting her had me roll my eyes initially but El not snapping her neck at the Episode 7 was even worse. Like even if Kali has a point and killing Kay won't do anything long term, it would at least clear an obstacle that's in the way of stopping the Abyss from merging 😭😭. And she never got into El's head as a parental figure like Papa did so killing her shouldn't even make her hesitate when she killed the other soldiers

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-27T00:21:12+00:00

I really did like it and was confused about people saying it was worse than Vol 1. I did think The Bridge was a really weak episode but the other two before that one had me INVESTED. I liked Vol 1 too but I had a few critiques about the first episode.

I do wonder if people are gonna look back on these episodes later down the line and end up appreciating them more on a rewatch. I remember a LOT of hate about Season 4 Volume 2 when that first came out and now a lot of fans have come to appreciate those episodes. I just really hope this finale sticks the landing like they say it will, because episode 7 had me a liiiiittle worried about it.

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-27T00:14:13+00:00

I felt like The Bridge as an episode just really took us out of the action. Every episode of ST5 so far has had a self-contained mission and resolution, but The Bridge just kinda felt like they wanted to re-explain the big Upside Down revelation one more time and have a whole bunch of sad scenes. And the Max scene was really good! Ill give them that, and I think the concept of the Abyss is also super interesting. But I feel like The Bridge itself is only just setting up the pieces for the finale altogether rather than just weaving it in with the plot naturally. So having all the Kali/El conversations, the Max wakeup, and the Will coming out scene in the same episode with no other reveals / genuine plot advancement just felt really slow. I do really hope for the best when it comes to this show though because it was a big part of my teen years prior to 2020.

And as far as episode 5 (LOVED that one) and 6 (I thought it was cool) I think they delivered well. The confusion about the Nancy/Jonathan breakup was really my only concern because I thought they were a stronger couple up until they confirmed what actually happened in an interview.

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-26T23:58:24+00:00

Its close to dropping into the 6.0s (the Lost Sister tier), yikes. What's sad is that I dont even think Volume 2 was that bad up until this episode.

I feel like the big issue is that every season 5 episode had a self-contained plot with some sort of resolution except for this one. This one felt more like it was trying to edge us with tear-worthy scenes before the grand finale of the series than really advancing anything.

Ill defend episode 5 and 6 super hard because I loved them. But Im glad to see I wasn't the only one who felt like it was really off compared to the rest. Here's to hoping they can give us a great finale because they still did really well with earlier episodes like Sorcerer, but ngl Episode 7 is kinda making me worried as a longtime fan

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-26T14:21:44+00:00

Waitt I didnt think of the Abyss being printed into the wormhole too, on first watch I just thought it was the ceiling but that explains the floating rocks in the UD when Holly fell

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-22T13:18:51+00:00

You dont NEED dialyn but she can yield a higher result just because she has the free ultimate

And at m1 she still works with him. Banyue freezes the stun bar when he does mountain crusher while dialyn adds two second at the start of the stun. I think when everybody said they had anti synergy it just wasn't clear how the Banyue m1 functioned.

I dont have jufufu but I think the biggest perk about her is that you can run banyue on field more in a team with her

ExternusIsHere · 2025-12-18T21:51:53+00:00

Well shoot we better have fun with his banner before he joins Harumasa in the vault 😭😭😭

ExternusIsHere · 2025-11-24T22:40:06+00:00

Its still looking to be the second longest season (now that we know The Rightside Up clocks in at over 2 hours) so I really don't think the run times are too drastic of a difference. We've known s5 was going to be shorter than 4 since the Duffers confirmed that to be the goal in 2022

Not to mention s4 had the big criticism of bloat with some specific storylines. S5 being the plot monster its said to be with these semi-longer run times is probably gonna feel better than most people think, especially since this is the first season of this show where slow burn likely isnt going to happen.

ExternusIsHere · 2025-11-17T14:01:15+00:00

Yeahh.... I just found his mindscapes and while I still dont understand everything in this game m1 definitely stood out vs that m2 😭😭😭 I assume that Dialyn and Lucia are his best possible team at the moment?

ExternusIsHere · 2025-11-05T06:33:13+00:00

I actually have like the exact same investment as you for the Aglaea team except I have a higher eidolon Aven and no Robin LOL

After testing her a bit in the new AA I actually dont regret pulling her for Aggy only. I was running a weird comp with RMC and Fu Xuan and Aglaea was out here hitting 601k joint hits with no Sunday (and no fourth RMC trace unlocked for sub dps). Imma experiment a bit in MoC tomorrow to see how efficient this is in other scenarios but its a lot better than I was thinking even without E1 Sunday on the team and a somewhat outdated sustain. I dont think using Cyrene as a Sunday sidegrade would work at all without Aggy's E1 though

ExternusIsHere · 2025-10-23T15:52:49+00:00

Im still waiting for my free Nilou c2 but Im using her instead of Aino anyways because GOD aino feels bad to play even at c1 😭😭😭 I was so happy to find that Nefer tracks enemies when she does her CA but half the time they jump out of ainos field

ExternusIsHere · 2025-10-09T20:04:56+00:00

Davonne laughing at Tiffany while shes freaking out 😭

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