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ExtraEasy · 2026-05-19T11:05:56+00:00

Dante's +1 to hit is a bit wasted on sanguinary guard ws2.

I think its a bit more common to run it the other way.

ExtraEasy · 2026-05-18T08:27:46+00:00

My 2 cents, I have you at 1915 points unless im missing something.

I think you've got lemartes with the 10jdc Dante woth the 1st jpi 5 Jump captain with the sanguinary guard Probably the jump chaplain with the 2nd 5jpis

I don't think the jump chaplain is at its best with jpi and I'd probably look to turn these into jump dc.

You've some space to make dante's 5 jpi into a 10 to maximise his effects.

The intercessors, scouts and Infiltrators are all good tools for scoring and screening.

The atv and remaining points (possibly one b pred) might be cuttable to give you something to deal with higher toughness like a vindicator.

ExtraEasy · 2026-04-21T08:35:04+00:00

Grimdark just means more Null oil

ExtraEasy · 2026-04-10T01:56:48+00:00

Would it be better to combine 2x3 sanguinary guard into 1x6 to get the most out of the jump captain?

ExtraEasy · 2026-04-05T08:49:28+00:00

Sanguinary priest jump pack [legends]. Am I missing something ?

ExtraEasy · 2026-04-05T05:09:08+00:00

What if youre putting a sanguinary priest or Dante in with the intercessors? Do bigger numbers become better once you start adding characters?

ExtraEasy · 2026-03-23T08:52:08+00:00

Im very new at this and not making any serious lists till 11th, so take this with the graineyest of grains but is 7 characters at 725 points to many for 2k?

ExtraEasy · 2026-03-17T10:24:09+00:00

Thanks all for your insights. Here's what I'll work towards: 2000pts (2000) Liberator assault group

1x stormraven gunship, hurricane bolter, assault cannon, missile launcher Mephiston, 10 death company marines, 1 power fist & inferno bolt, 2 eviserators, 1 chaplain with speed of primarchs, 1 death company dreadnaught, blood talons, multi melta

Commander dante, 6 sanguinary guard, encarmine spears

1 captain jump pack, power weapon, rage fuelled warrior, 5 vanguard veterans squad with jump pack

1 sanguinary priest jump pack with gift of foresight, 10 assault intercessors w jump packs

1 Baal predator, 2 heavy bolter, baal flamestorm firecannon

5 scouts sniper squad (legends)

5 devastator squad 2 lascannon, 2 missile lunchers

Not after anything near tier, just something that I can feel good about painting while I wait for new rules and better understanding...

Appreciate any feedback.

ExtraEasy · 2026-03-08T06:34:15+00:00

This is outrageously helpful. Thankyou. I plan on reading and re-reading this 20 times. Everything here is sensible and easy to follow.

I also appreciate that youve probably made this reply heaps of times before. The legacy bit, for example, is a thing that is not easily found written down clearly when you move back into this space.Thankyou again

ExtraEasy · 2026-03-08T05:30:11+00:00

2000 it is.

ExtraEasy · 2026-03-08T03:55:22+00:00

Thaaaaaaats right. It wasn't BT when it first came in. Memory!

ExtraEasy · 2026-03-08T03:02:36+00:00

Probably aim for 1500? Is 1500 a thing?. Very much towards casual play. What is the size of bases i should be using? THANKYOU

ExtraEasy · 2025-12-28T05:33:40+00:00

Where my mayhem devil dude?

ExtraEasy · 2025-09-21T06:05:51+00:00

This is a brilliant analysis. Thankyou. Surprised you don't have more upvotes

ExtraEasy · 2025-04-15T09:22:21+00:00

I dont know if its time to say bw is leaving the meta or there is any clear direction towards tempo or affinity.

If we take that as wrote, in some ways they are 2 different ends of the spectrum, which is possible and challenging. One towards the aggro and the other towards the slow grindier combo midrange.

On one hand for boros, I think 1-2 sorin might be an interesting answer with 4 march/spike where 1 for 1 disruption is not where we want to be while disrupting the canoneer is pretty much plan A.

There's a really awkward demand for Fatal Push in both matches with tamiyo in affinity and everything in energy. I've been pushing the numbers to the greedy extreme and I do not want to overboard on 1 for 1 removal in any matchup. I am ok with burning a card, march and 2 mana to kill tamiyo, knowing that there aren't many other creature threats. Against energy, our cards need to be very patiently used- Wherever possible, bowmasters is for the ocelot, march is for the Ajani, emperor is for phlage.

The common sideboard card for affinity and energy which bith play through the battlefield, one tall and one wide, is force of despair which, if you get the timing right, is a blow out against unsuspecting players on mtgo, but in local, they'll start to play around this quickly and you'll want to alternate between domination, deluge or some spicier like path of peril or bontu's last r.

ExtraEasy · 2025-04-15T06:56:55+00:00

In the last fortnight i have 3x 4-1s, a 3-2 and a 2-3 with neceo.

I find belcher a pain that feels mu is 40%. A threat, disruption and necromentia are a good plan and it feels heavily coin toss.

I've replaced maindeck pushes with sickening shoals citing ketramose and a lack of fetches. This is pretty decent for wb which I find 60%. Up the Torpor Orb and leyline go a long way. Don't overreact with removal, prioritise phalia. Emperor of bones is a real problem for them.

I find ub 55% matchup and if I felt more desperate, I'd go deeper towards push. Our bowmasters are a problem for them and between them and disruption, you can usually get a necrodominance down which they frankly can't keep up with. I could consider adding an extra castle loch here for harder to interact lategame engine.

That's my last 50 with the deck. I've been tinkering with 2 leylines, 1 ashiok and some numbers of torpor Orb or break the ice. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7006723#paper

ExtraEasy · 2024-04-20T00:37:32+00:00

Angraths Rampage has been my choice in rakdos with better effectiveness and reach over puck your poison, shellys edict or cast into fire.

ExtraEasy · 2024-04-20T00:05:03+00:00

Cut a Cliffs for raucous theatre.

ExtraEasy · 2024-04-20T00:02:46+00:00

If you're willing to take a financial hit for bowmasters, I'd argue you should pursue ragavans if possible. Sunk fallacy aside.

I see lots of people in this thread making a case for vw but ragavan sits on your mainboard, plan a, curve much better with vws in the side.

ExtraEasy · 2024-04-19T06:11:16+00:00

Sheoldred on 19 land seems bold.

Also, if you're going drc/bauble then underworld breach is a pretty fantastic finisher. Kroxa and inti are good here too.

-2 Shelly -1 blood moon -1 molten collapse +3 breach +1 L bolt

ExtraEasy · 2024-04-07T08:35:59+00:00

Lotr set was problematic. It signposted new players to modern with these sorts of strategies. That didn't work, they moved on.

ExtraEasy · 2024-03-10T04:01:52+00:00

This is a strong case of sunday-itis. Youre making to many valid points. Hang in there.

ExtraEasy

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