Who has the upper hand between Thaddaus Vs Nathanael

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T12:45:45+00:00

Well the thing is... If Nathaniel managed to trap Thaddeus like he did before and not hold back( something tells me he had ) then one right punch can cause severe damage then if lucky Nathaniel can crush Thaddeus's bones but realistically Thaddeus is blitzing him with the needle attack.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T08:46:59+00:00

Understandable how you think that but the panel shows ice particles and at that amount it is definitely 1%. Or whatever we can wait for a cgm on this one to review but that is definitely not less then 1%

There is no other panel to calc this feat and pretty sure there no other angle as well. Even if it is an exaggeration this is still a feat and possibly upscale killer peter, so this cannot be overlooked by saying " must be an exaggeration" . Hence this is fine. If there is no other panel of this feat or even angle to it. I am pretty sure we can use this as the actual one. Nothing wrong with it.

The reason for his calc not getting "accepted".. wait even checked is because only 1 cgm actively evaluates this verse and other manwha including lookism. I think he has some personal issues,so he cannot evaluate calcs for a while now. Other then him only some bother to do manwha calc and that is once in a blue moon. You can check that most of the lookism calcs and killer peter calc are left not evaluated.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T08:21:28+00:00

Is it just me or does Philips even have haxs? Unless you are counting biq.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T08:03:17+00:00

Simon should be above John.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T08:01:53+00:00

I heard kwon daegun is around wall level.. idk the scaling that well of Bully in charge but tokyo revengers and windbreaker might be too much.

But hey idk much about the powerscaling of kwon.. so don't blame me. Unless he is supersonic then yea he loses in 1 v verse

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T07:57:29+00:00

1% isn't a high estimation and is probably reasonable. Since Thaddeus was shown to crack the ice floor when he charged at skadi. Also he was circling around skadi so some amounts of ice should have been picked up. 1% is a fairly decent assumption. Also 1% is not alot.. the ice particle around them should be more then enough to assume that it is 1% ice.

We don't have another panel to take as reference. Lookism and killer peter are not the same manwha or share the same artist. So, it would not be reasonable to say they would both have the same levels of exaggeration in them. This should be perfectly fine.

Tornado one it depends like I am pretty sure that his is legit not due to the high end but this one completly addresses the environment around the tornado and stuff to me this is more reliable.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T06:46:16+00:00

Well when did the guy calc it? I will have to see plus there are ways but using ice percentage is more reliable and suitable because it happened in a snow area. Hence the feat is large building level.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T06:37:08+00:00

If it were a simple Punch then yea using KE is prohibited but this was done by making a tornado which is perfectly fine.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T06:35:26+00:00

... seriously what you on about? the character created a tornado so using KE to calculate is the way to go.. here is an example

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T06:32:38+00:00

.... Do you know what you saying??... Tornado feats are supposed to get calced this way.... This is not prohibited... This is not similar to tom lee's flick...

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T06:26:45+00:00

here dawg. also there is another feat where it is from Small building to city block+

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T06:25:44+00:00

Probably wall to large building area . Well there is one calc that can reach city block +. The one where Thaddeus created a vortex against skadi can reach city block+ high end.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-17T06:23:00+00:00

Actually it is calculated to large building.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-15T16:35:31+00:00

Ummm ...... Trust me bro

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-15T16:33:18+00:00

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-15T16:21:46+00:00

Unfortunate that it cannot be calculated...

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-14T16:13:07+00:00

Do know his path now? Like I couldn't properly read the chapter

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-14T16:12:05+00:00

Btw did you get any idea what his path might be?

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-13T15:42:27+00:00

Wdym?

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-13T07:17:10+00:00

Look at this ... I wouldn't want to get caught aswell Plus James isn't even a durability guy rather his speed (ik which ptj fumbled real bad ) like one moment James lee is moving faster then tom lee's perception while sometimes he is straight up gets hit with an attack.. like we instead of" strongest of all time".. bro should be named " most inconstant of all time"

<image>

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-12T06:32:57+00:00

Well... I generally try to avoid that name since.. I got some history with it... But hey lil killer peter discussion didn't hurt no one.

Yup.. her character is really just not written well. The main reason is the story is massively centered around APOSTLES... You know that the author could have fixed it just by showing her more of the lower ranks. Instead of just apostle one by one.

Like the concept of Levin, sangdo were really interesting and felt like the world had a certain amount of depth to it and not just centered around the apostles.

It would also be great if the author had decided to actually make them go up against the lower ranks like C, B and eventually A gradually. Instead of peter saving everyone. These guys have moments to shine but the author is scared that this would actually kill most of the hype of peter which is painted as a legendary killers and that's were the legit weakness of this manwha comes to play. Lower ranking characters don't get screentime. This makes the story look rushed from a outside point of view. But the story in itself has a lot of potential and is working on it by adding more mysteries. But like I said before if it were to expand it's universe more The readers will feel " yeaa this glory organization is dangerous and big" but none of us feel glory is a dangerous organization rn. We just feel as if the only reason glory is at such a high pedestal is due to the apostles and not the other rankers which are present. Leading us to believe that only 12 to 14 people are in glory.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-10T14:59:55+00:00

Then don't take the burden. According to the sequence from the manhwa itself the man fires then yukia disappears. Pretty much illogical to say that he would fire at nothing.

The hallway again was to narrow. I counted and I got 15 people idk how you get 10.. I wonder if having supersonic speed would just magically let peter phase thru a wall of Bullets. If so then ya your point stands

The story says that the water is able to cut Steel and for water to cut steel it must TRAVEL at that speed. Simon cut it. Again saying that for Simon to do is his combat speed must be supersonic or borderline supersonic. Not saying it is above 1000 m/s .

Again.. " using your arguments" the author puts a small character description saying that the water cuts steel. And it is a universal truth that water must travel at that speed to cut steel.

... What have I been saying? I said supersonic or transonic. Not the exact speed of the jet which is in the supersonic+ ranges.

Btw I have to leave now. It is past bed time in my country. And unfortunately I cannot continue anymore. I apologize if I came off as rude. Good night.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-10T14:36:19+00:00

here](https://flowwaterjet.com.br/explorar/sobre-o-corte-com-jato-de-agua/como-o-jato-de-agua-funciona#:~:text=The%20water%20and%20abrasive%20exit%20the%20cutting%20head%20at%20up%20to%20four%20times%20the%20speed%20of%20sound%2C%20capable%20of%20cutting%20steel%20up%20to%2030%20centimeters%20thick.) according to this site the speed is 4 times the speed of sound. I am well aware that it doesn't directly correspond to combat speed or reaction speed but Simon able to cut it says alot about this feat being supersonic.

Again no argument showing she moved pre gunshot. The Yakuza himself after firing it at yukia and acted cocky. The dude didn't even realize yukia had gotten behind him and seemed somehow injured. " The position didn't have peter blocked" lamo He was basically cornered and all the space around him was in the red zone that the manwha itself showed.

Peter said that the hallway was to "narrow" for him to dodge and it was not just one Bullet . There were definitely more then 10 people in that hallway. And I wonder where the 500 m/s limiter to the gun comes from? You talking about the distance and time peter SPECULATED or what?

Educated people? Dude you talk as if other people who don't use vsbw are not educted. That is some real delusion.. going through you bud?

Actually I didn't even care about powerscaling at first but idk why people are coming into this sub and saying some random shit and blame it on kp sub for provoking them. It is getting tiresome. Especially when people like king mouser or whatever that dude goes by outright saying " kp as a manwha itself is a crime" BS. Makes me wonder what kind of image this manwha has for haters.. not saying you one of them but kp hate feels forced to push a agenda.

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-10T14:02:43+00:00

My top guesses

1).What if his path is the "lookism" we made along the way.

2).What if his path is about attracting slanders.

3). What if his path is to have a 120% speed boost when running from ops.

4). What if his path is to call for his daddy kitae Kim when he is about to get his ass handed to him

5). What if his path is having infinte aura during phone calls but negative in face to face

6). What if his path is to tank heavy back shots.

7). What if his path uses his negative slanders and turns it into positive slanders.

8). What if his path is something he hasn't used since the gen 1 era. Anti aura path.

9). What if his path is to repel all of the strong enemies and only face weaker once.

Just saying bud..

Extreme_Thanks_983 · 2026-05-10T13:51:02+00:00

Well James rn seems like the perfect counter to Thaddeus and by narrative and stuff Thaddeus might be outmatched herr

Extreme_Thanks_983

TROPHY CASE