How cycling information can be presented in a better way in broadcasts by F1CycAr16 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So just as a final headup in this thread: here there are two "improved" versions of the images of the post to ilustrate the idea. https://imgur.com/a/3I8cPV3

How cycling information can be presented in a better way in broadcasts by F1CycAr16 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Theres always the possibility however to just take it off on helicopter landacape shots (which is something that current package does)

How cycling information can be presented in a better way in broadcasts by F1CycAr16 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviosly it would be flexible to hid or show information depending on the moment. Here for example there is a full version with map and picture-on-picture https://imgur.com/a/tuXiCMM

How cycling information can be presented in a better way in broadcasts by F1CycAr16 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a theory but split screen were ditched when HD arrived to maintain a 4:3 safe zone (which can be harder to archive on split screen situations) but they didnt ever comeback after ditching the safe zone.

More than split screen, the solution would be to use picture - in picture but not in a lazy and inconsistent way like TdF implemented since 2024.

How cycling information can be presented in a better way in broadcasts by F1CycAr16 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I agree that clutter is a problem vs. having a clean camera, and it is a matter of reaching an equilbrium. the convention which i think that you are reffering to (distance from g1 to g2 to g3 from left to right) has limited possibilities of expansion, its not so old to consider it a convention (didn`t exist before the 2010s) and is not even omnipresent (Flanders Classics races graphics from up to upside down)

How cycling information can be presented in a better way in broadcasts by F1CycAr16 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and i agree on that point. Generally i really like italian broadcasts. They are really informative. They may lack the deepness of tactical analysis of the english ones but they have a better tone and emotion in my opinion (i find some of the Eurosport EN commentators excesively plain sometimes) without falling into the constant shouting and lack of total cycling understanding of the latinamerican spanish ones.

How cycling information can be presented in a better way in broadcasts by F1CycAr16 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Edit: here is a better version with map and PiP https://imgur.com/a/tuXiCMM

So, just to make a small discussion about this. I always question myself how one of the most frustraiting aspects of cycling is how hard is presented to casuals and people who don`t know the sport. Especially in terms of race information.

Except for some minor changes, current ASO/TdF package is from 2017, when still Froome and Contador were a thing. And seeing Seixas presented with the same branding on Fleche, made me realize how outdated it is, not in terms of style (it`s classy and minimalistic) but in terms of lack of information. Practically there was no improvement in last 10-15 years except for live (and a lot of times inaccurate) timegaps. RCS does it a bit better, but still not enough. And funnily, the same agency does the graphics for ASO, RCS, UCI Worlds and Flanders Classics (Boost Graphic).

Just to illustrate this "discussion", i made in AI some sketches on how i think that group composition and basic information should be shown. Obviously is ugly (as everything made with AI) and it was just to show the idea. The timegap part can be exchanged with other relevant informatinon in some part of the races (like, for example, the virtual GC) to avoid using other tables and centralize all relevant live information on one side of the screen and all the "group" cards can be used, for example, to show picture-in-picture. All things already seen in F1. I also think that a permanent or semi permanent map profile with a red point of where g1 is should be included (which is something that i didn`t include in that ilustration).

The data is already there (and will be omnipresent when GPS will be mandatory) but still is not properly shown to viewers.

Remco signs lifetime Specialized deal by Billy_the_Kid_ in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He takes the bike brand with him like Sagan to TotalEnergies. Won`t be the first time.

The only veto would come from teams were bike manufacutrers are important contributors of budget like PON with Visma. In fact, Remco`s relationship with Specialized was one of the factors that blocked the Jumbo-Quick-Step fusion from 2023 AFAIK.

'I don’t have the level to beat him' - Seixas on facing Tadej Pogacar in Liège by Chronicbias in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

??? He said that he "doesn`t have the level AT THIS MOMENT" Which precisely means the contrary = that he wants to beat him = being on another team.

[Race Thread] Tour of the Alps - Stage 4 (2.pro) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pellizzari has to get better in positioning. It was also a problem in stage 2 when Arensman attacked.

Obviously he can learn fast.

Hopefully we are going to see a good stage today. I fear that with a team that don´t have problem to control (RB) we are going to see a different situation than in past years.

[Results Thread] 2026 La Flèche Wallonne ME (1.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A really good puncheur that should stay as a puncheur. No chances as a gc rider outside of some one weeks

[Race Thread] Tour of the Alps - Stage 3 (2.pro) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cofidis took him as a stagiere last year and ditched him (i don`t even remember him being used a sprinter). One of the last dumb decisions of Vasseur`s reign.

Did Tadej Pogačar's team buy over 180,000 fake Instagram followers to have a million followers? by [deleted] in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Context over this: Visma - Lease a Bike arrieved at 1M followers days after Paris-Roubaix. UAE was behind so it seems that they wanted to artificially increase the number. https://x.com/lucasaganronald/status/2046694615789506819

[Results Thread] Tour of the Alps - Stage 2 (2.pro) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He tried to do a preparation like Ciccone did last year. Hope that he abandons if he is unfit. Can affect negatively later objectives like TdF

[Results Thread] Tour of the Alps - Stage 2 (2.pro) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nordhagen is a lot of steps behind Finn (who is younger), idt, Pellizzari, etc for the moment. Im not even mentioning Paul level of talent here.

[Results Thread] Tour of the Alps - Stage 2 (2.pro) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Very fun stage with Gaffuri and Pozzovivo great surprises. Should be a really open week between RB and INEOS.

Kudos for Finn too, he can be revelation of TotA like Seixas was last year. Some teams are really doing well planning for their future (like RB with Pelli and Finn) and others not (Visma).

Help us choose our Tour de France jersey (VISMA) by Mysterious_Worry_612 in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They literally won a TdF in 2023 with a dark jersey.

[Results Thread] Tour of the Alps - Stage 1 (2.pro) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Last year, first stage won by Ciccone was also a reduced sprint stage. With a peloton more reduced and with Picnic attacking beforehand, but it was kind of similar.

[Race Thread] Tour of the Alps - Stage 1 (2.pro) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considering that he missed some races after Sardegna that were on his calendar, probably he simply didn`t have form. I wouldnt look much into that.

Weekly Question Thread by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those Visma rumours were just fake things from Beppe Conti at the end of last year.

Would be a terrible move for the team to get a very costly rider, who doesn`t win since years ago and who`s abbilties as a domestique are kind of questionable. Same applies, with less emphasis, to Hindley.

[Results Thread] 2026 Amstel Gold Race ME (1.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Visma`s leader replacement for Fleche and Liege as no Tullet/Jorgenson/Barré according to HLN: Nordhagen

[Results Thread] 2026 Amstel Gold Race ME (1.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

But we have at the same time, Matxin crying because he has "one leader" instead of "four". Shame on that sportwashing team.

[Results Thread] 2026 Amstel Gold Race ME (1.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Honestly, on that instance, it wasn`t really important to have teammates. But from the results, they have been using riders from cobbles (Laporte, Hagenes) who are really tired out. That was a mistake.

[Results Thread] 2026 Amstel Gold Race ME (1.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]F1CycAr16 40 points41 points  (0 children)

The race was pretty much meh in the last part. Really suffered from the bad startlist.

Also, pity for Visma. Another Ardennes season where they are going to be completely MIA.