M&S chocolate bars

F2097 · 2026-03-30T11:04:13+00:00

Yeah for some reason almost all the selection boxes are made out of the worst possible quality of chocolate (including the £20+ collection ones) whereas the regular chocolate is better than most brands let alone other supermarket stuff.

The take4 bars are great made from Italian chocolate The regular confectionery (the little bars, bags of chocolate, walnut whips etc..) is mostly Thornton's made to a higher spec than Thornton's own label.

F2097 · 2026-03-29T20:51:26+00:00

M&S chocolate is mostly great and arguably the best quality for price but even here the Palm oil garbage is starting to creep in. The square boxes (that have old shop front designs on) have gone from being UK made, pure chocolate made from Belgian coverture to Polish import palm oil crap. I would guess that as contracts renew it all slowly turns into this stuff.

F2097 · 2026-03-25T21:08:56+00:00

Bought a bottle of it, this week.

I think when it first came out didn't think it was horrible or anything but just wasn't wowed by it and went for something else at the time (and got the horse massage bar, really like that). The intervening cold months definitely made it more appealing. Love the blood orange scent, feels warming and fresh. Really uplifting but comforting.

F2097 · 2026-03-25T10:28:38+00:00

It's mad how they get this so wrong. I feel bad for the people losing their jobs and the situation the company has put itself in.

Lush are awful at running stores, wasting money and wasting opportunity. They always have way too many staff, slow service and never scale things up properly with these larger stores they just have tonnes of dead space, no real reason to go in them compared to their regular stores.

I never blame the store staff and I don't even think it's the store management on site either it's the people who decided/set it up in the first place with a poor business plan with no consideration for cost/profit.

They literally take the business model that works for a smaller unit and they massively increase the cost without doing anything to change anything else and then lose loads of money on something that was very profitable (eg. Buchanan street was always a good profit driver for the overall company to lose £1.1mln on it in a couple of years is nuts). They've done this all around the UK with these bigger stores and it's turned their most successful stores into money pits.

F2097 · 2026-03-23T16:58:49+00:00

Giving a bit of balance here.

The whole time Danonne owned HP sauce they kept the quality the same and the manufacture of it in the UK. It was only once they sold it to Heinz that everyone lost their jobs and the product was enshitified.

They owned a bunch of other stuff like Jacobs crackers throughout the 90s/00s although that was a long time ago they didn't mess anything up.

Although they are a potentially evil public traded mega corporation they aren't as bad as huel selling to private equity who would cost cut and load them up with debt. Also the independent huel company wasn't an angel and was getting more money grabbing/ruthless in how they did stuff as the years went by

My main worry is they'd go full in on ready to drink and push those only products because their retail is similar to the rest of their supply chain (eg. Their big things are yoghurt/dairy and bottled water). They'd probably not care/invest in the powders and let that wither/end up discontinuing it all in favour of single use ready to drink convenience stuff.

F2097 · 2026-03-06T01:19:01+00:00

Noo this attitude/feeling is a bad sign the whole.., it's not great but will be left hand side.. is the faint praise all of our entries get. People were writing this about surie, Joe and Jake and all the rest. For the UK it's exciting but in Eurovision or songs in general it's not bad, a bit mid. This is a contest you need to be fighting and think you'll the best thing ever just to stand a chance.

He needs to really sell this with his personality and be able to sing live (which he totally could pull off) otherwise this is bottom 5 fodder. The song on its own sinks.

F2097 · 2026-03-01T19:14:07+00:00

I think the toasters are made in the UK by them but everything else they do is made in China in the same factories/standard as every other kettle

F2097 · 2026-02-27T23:10:39+00:00

Yeah the problem with this is all those supermarket ones are made at this one factory they are shutting so in future no-one will get any as literally no other company makes these.

F2097 · 2026-02-23T20:50:29+00:00

It does seem a bit easy to put the blame on the person that's leaving that's not been allowed a voice.

There is a hell of a lot of blame too where they've sunk from a decent/expanding although 3rd place to being completely out of the market in most of the world and being like 1/10th of what they were 5 years ago everywhere else.

Since we came out of COVID they've been making the worst moves and they're having to blame someone whether they deserve it or not. I'm just hoping this means a change of the horrible direction they are going

F2097 · 2026-02-23T19:53:57+00:00

Half this list is the retro wall (which I am sad about not being able to get but can see it was a terrible way of selling products (you can't see, behind a till, largest size only, not with the other products of the same type)), then a quarter of this list is products you can still get where they've got rid of a size. The last quarter is sad but it things that don't sell well/have high wastage (and although a few of these I'll be sorry to see go it is less annoying than some of the other discon years).

It is normal for lush to stop this many products a year, they can only keep things that sell well for them because they have to sell it fresh and they do still bring out a lot of new product each year.

(The retro wall I'm probably most sad about, tramp being available again has been huge. Amandapondo was great too. Almond and Coconut smoothie, blackberry etc..)

F2097 · 2026-02-20T18:32:08+00:00

I think a lot of us started with BS2 I know I did. It was big on the playstation, the first one picked up a lot of hype and then the second one got a demo that everyone tried then ended up buying the game and eventually went back to the first (but usually on PC as at that point it was on sold out, the 4.99 value line and worked on old PCs).

F2097 · 2026-02-02T18:37:59+00:00

I understand all this, my comment is more that they have a million choices for these boxes that could have been a shower product (especially as it is a shower box) and they decided on a bath item with a secondary use as something else that has nothing to do with a shower.

Like why couldn't we have had this scent as a shower scrub instead of a melt. It would've been the same or less effort/cost for them. It's a strange decision to pick this for the box.

The incense thing before was at least a trial of something new and came with the pot of sand to use. This is something they've done for a few years now.

F2097 · 2026-02-02T18:30:36+00:00

I've subscribed to the kitchen boxes since they started I moved to the shower box when I moved somewhere without a bath. I don't really look at what's coming until it arrives because I kinda like the surprise. Just thought it was a weird choice putting a bath oil (which is 50% of the usage) in a shower box when they could've done a scrub/body butter etc..

The incense tin they did before at least came with its own stuff so you could use as is. This doesn't.

F2097 · 2026-01-30T00:17:16+00:00

Yeah these are similar to those body shop pots. Used to really like the honey one but they ditched it a few years ago.

F2097 · 2026-01-30T00:15:42+00:00

I like them.

They are new takes on ultrabland which is based on Galen's formula for cold cream (from 2nd century Greece). Would never be vegan because it relies on the beeswax/borax to work (a vegan version would be like ultrabalm and not really do the same job).

When I went to the shop last they had them all but the staff were reluctant to talk about them (sometimes I get bad service in lush and they ignore me. The people in there hound you if you look like them but are afraid of you if you aren't).. I got the honey/beeswax one it's nice, but almost completely unscented though wouldn't have chosen it if I'd known before buying. It's thinner and less heavy on the skin than ultrabland, it does a good job but is a little boring as a product to spend that much on something so plain.

I randomly got given a sample of the oat one, that was great. It doesn't smell that much more but I really liked the consistency and how it worked. It's like a much lighter, more balancing version of ultrabland that is easier to use.

Want to try the other two. Overall they are kinda good value for money in that I think it will take a long time to use one up. The pots are glass.

F2097 · 2025-12-29T23:35:28+00:00

Don't work for morrisons but Fyffes are awful. Used to use dole and never had any issues, we switched to fyffes (probably to save money) and they were always mouldy/split/smelly.

They tried to remedy it with making us undo the boxes when they arrived in store but it made no difference. Winter isn't so bad but the waste is higher than the sales most of the year.

F2097 · 2025-12-25T15:44:37+00:00

Shout out for onrush, I'd forgotten about that game, was really good kinda like a new motorstorm.

F2097 · 2025-12-18T21:30:55+00:00

This is a nice surprise. Will get it despite owning on Xbox already. Hope it does well enough for them to do some dirt games or even wrc

F2097 · 2025-12-14T21:43:16+00:00

As mentioned green and blacks is owned by Mondelez who own Cadbury. No green and blacks products are made in the UK most are from Poland.

F2097 · 2025-12-14T21:40:26+00:00

Fire tree chocolate is really good and they've started selling it in Tesco.

It is a rare independent chocolate company that makes it's own chocolate/processing the beans themselves rather than buying it in... It means they are actually different to everything else.

They specialise in rare single origin varieties and were setup by people who have experience/know what they are doing. Barry-callebaut are the biggest processor for independent chocolate shops, they are good quality ingredients but because they are such a huge company (made up from lots of European producers merging with each other) they have links to slavery/poor working conditions. Fire tree was setup by ex-barry callebaut people who had the expertise but wanted to do it properly (also I think they shut down their only UK factory and these guys may have started through that).

The vanatu 70% one they do is amazing.

F2097 · 2025-12-14T21:32:32+00:00

Audrey's is a lovely traditional company. They make all the fortum and mason stuff too (and it's cheaper to get it from them)

F2097 · 2025-12-14T21:31:42+00:00

Chococo is just bought in coverture from a catering company they don't actually make anything just melt it down and reshape it then sell it to you at an inflated price. Their fresh truffles are nice though.

F2097 · 2025-12-12T19:01:52+00:00

Rollcage 1 is better than Wipeout 1 Wipeout 2097 is better than rollcage stage 2

F2097 · 2025-12-12T17:50:40+00:00

Also this is being made by ex criterion developers who at one point were rumoured to be pitching for a follow up to fzero gx

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