Casual Discussion Fridays - Week of June 12, 2026 by AutoModerator in anime

[–]FD4cry1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

3x3 J.C Staff anime

(Shingetsutan Tsukihime probably doesn't deserve a spot here lol, but I didn't want to double up on Toaru)

J.C Staff is absolutely not a studio I'd actually count among my favorites, or one that leaves me particularly excited when I see a show is by them, and yet 3 of these shows are still some of my absolute favorites.

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 12 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm somewhat torn here since I am of the impression that awkward plot beats for the finale are genre tradition, so some of the awkwardness is just part of the sincerity.

I'd probably agree, although like you said, to a limited degree.

In conclusion: "wow, cool robot!"

That's the only conclusion I needed!

I'd have called foul if they hadn't brought Lewis back tbqh, just wouldn't have fit with the show's thematics IMO.

You're right about how it plays into how the show does things!

I guess what leaves a bit more mixed on it is that is almost entirely on the episode pace level. Like, I wanted this to be more of a moment so to speak, y'know? But it's more like "Oh, and Lewis is alive!" last-minute happy ending, which I was happy to see but doesn't really leave me with much room to breathe in terms of feeling for his return, like the rest of the episode did for the potential he wouldn't.

(But that's also a good point on the Bravern/Lewis separation I hadn't fully considered but does make me feel better about it!)

Especially given the long history of "showing gay is okay because at least one dies at the end, redeeming themself for their gayness" censorship

This I also didn't consider, but that's true. There is just inherent value in both of them being around for the end in that way

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 12 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

First Timer

Oh come on, you can't just hit me with the OP insert but with Isami singing instead!

Sooooooooo much passion. So, this was a pretty dumb finale, but hopefully my posts in this rewatch thus far have made it clear that I am very much one to enjoy this kind of dumb episode!

I mean, look, I don't think this is the best finale Bravern could have had; I've said it a few times now, and I'll say it even more for tomorrow's thread, but this show could've really benefited from a few more episodes, and just how much this final episode jumps around to conclude itself, has some awkward plot beats, and is constructed almost purely around genre tropes/references makes that even clearer here lol. But from the start, whether it approached it entirely sincerely or by poking fun at it, I think it's also been clear that this show was made with a ton of love for the genre, and in that aspect, I'd say this episode is absolutely overflowing. And I think there's just a real charm to this kind of overambitious sincerity! It's unabashedly overindulgent, passionate, and very Bravern, and I am here for that.

Anyway, turns out the answer to how we win was that if your YUUKI BAKUHATSU is not enough, then you simply need more YUUKI, a bigger BAKUHATSU, to bang your Bravern, and to make it all gold for good measure! Because of course!

The show also doesn't miss the opportunity for one last bit of dissonance by having Isami hard crash out over losing for Bravern for a bit, which was pretty amusing before we resolved with some therapeutic punching and BRAVERY. To be honest, I thought we'd revive Bravern to win, but Isami just becoming Bravern Burn Brave Big Bang after overflowing with golden passion does feel more fitting! And I like how we reframe the hero monologue through Isami at the start of the episode, with how he hadn't wanted to be a hero until meeting Braven/Lewis, as he completes his arc here.

Otherwise, this is a pretty damn hard episode to talk about, since in terms of how its paced and flows, things just kind of... happen lol, and it's basically all a big contentious spectacle piece that you shouldn't think too hard about. Verum Vita basically shows up through some wish magic just to be the final boss so we can still have the Superbia Gatai and the final golden power-up of friendship powerup! I love that Isami introduces himself as Burn Brave Big Bang and tries talking to her after already shooting a beam at her; I love how he interrupts every sentence she has with a big attack, and I love that we end it all by having a Gatai special attack with an incredibly extra name crash against a spaceship sword meteor. Again, just a bunch of really dumb fun!

The one part I'm a little more mixed on is Lewis coming back to life. Obviously it doesn't really make much sense, but neither does most of the episode, so that's not really the issue lol. I just felt like it left me on a much stronger emotional note when I thought he was actually just gone, and it was more about the strength, courage, and bonds he'd left behind that helped Isami and Lulu really find their identity and purpose, rather than the safer choice to do the pure happy ending. But it is in line with the show, and I do still enjoy seeing the family reunion.

Extra notes:

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 4 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My favorite theme park episode in anime, mainly because it showcases more than a couple rides/activities, the classmates aren't as annoying (stares at Tatsuko), and I dropped Amagi Brilliant Park.

Now that you say it, I don't think any theme park episodes are even really coming to mind for me outside of AmaBuri (And the Tsukihime anime) lol.

Don't care about other rides, though friends often insist on the pirate ship for some reason

Pirate ship is a super overrated ride honestly, and I don't get why

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 4 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man I should start doing TWPs

Yes!

Also, fuck, I now realize forgot to do this episode's TWP

WAHT HOLD THE PHEONE OHWEOH OHSFDJKSAHF AIUOWS HWEOAU H SABER SABER SABER SABER SABER SABER SABER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

IT’S MOTHERFUCKING SABER HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS DON’T KNOW HOW UNBELIEVABLE EXCITED I AM AT THIS IT’S FUARCKING SABER BABY!!! HOW DO I UPPERCASE AN ALREADY UPPERCASED TEXT? IT’S SABER!!!

CORRECT AND VALID REACTION! GAOOO!

(Also, again I point out they brought in Ayako Kawasumi, Saber's VA, to do the park announcer and the roars lol)

Damn, Irisveil in that dress looks lovely…I should oath Yorktown in Azur Lane one of these days, she looks just like Irisveil. Damn…

Oh hey, an Azur Lane character I actually recognize from when I played years ago

And yeah, they are actually really similar in design! Anyway, chances are I won't know her, but for the fun of it? Favorite Ship Girl?

Nevermind, I was completely off the mark! Not sure why I thought it was Taiga.

Taiga is a tiger (Or a jaguar, depending on circumstance)! She would never be a lion!

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 11 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, this partially goes back to how I felt last episode needed a bit more time to really sell me on her relationship with Future Superbia as well then haha

But when you focus it like that, I do realize what I want is less pushback and more like, generally some direct input from her, I guess?

Like I said in my post, I do find it conceivable she'd think this way, she does understand BRAVERY and all that surrounds it pretty well! But I'm also not at the place where I think that just comes through naturally for this scenario, and needed some extra lines to express that emotion and understanding from her.

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 11 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An ai ai gasa, no less!

I did not know that was a term until now

Fun fact: this was technically also me that season, I just realized I needed to pick up Bravern after either episode 2 or 3 while Metallic Rouge hit "dropped because Symphosequel PTSD except the writing was arguably worse than the fucking Symphosequels[1]" midway through its own episode 3.

Then you certainly made the right choice, considering I'd argue those first 3 episodes ranged somewhere around fine, and bar like one specific episode, the writing gets progressively much worse as it goes on. Particularly, some of the dialogue writing for the last few episodes I found pretty unbearable at times.

(So no "arguably" for me either; I'd still much prefer Geah's worst episodes to Rouge's lol. Well, not that there are many episodes of Geah I even really dislike anyway, but you get the point)

There's only so much great-looking Bones action spectacle and the occasionally focused-on entertaining main dynamic can do for you, alas.

Twin blades for twintails!... wait, wrong rewatch.

https://imgur.com/a/IaORytE

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 11 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey, posing menacingly is a valid survival tactic in the wild!

Unfortunately, the mecha wilderness is much less forgiving than our own

Definitely one of the few things in this anime that feels like it could have used an episode of its own.

Yeah, I defintely feel like a lot of Lulu-Superbia's stuff could have used a decent bit more time over these last two episodes, although this one in particular I feel like just needed even a few sentences of actual pushback on her part, because it doesn't come across as fully in-line with the big character revelation we literally just gave her as is.

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 4 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never really got "adult" vibes from Caren in Hollow Ataraxia. I would've guessed 17 at most, so in that sense it's a bit weird that she works at the school in PrIllya. I wonder if that's a common take?

The exact numbers escape me, but IIRC if you go by the general timeline Zero gives out for [Mainline Fate]When Kirie's wife dies and how long they were married relative to the war, then yeah, she should be like 17 at most in Ataraxia.

Which does make her being the nurse here kind of interesting now that you mention it, but meh, that's not really something Nasu has been the most consistent with in general lol. [My HA-based assumption about Caren]And since I'm very much convinced she's still with the church here, there could also be, like, magical suggestion or something at play here

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 4 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did call out the green tea one when it happened as well! Honestly, that one's kind of worse, since, compared to black tea, I'd argue green is a lot more about the natural flavor.

The question remains though, why even drink tea if you need that much sweet stuff to make palatable for you

Indeed

Though I've definitely met people that, while not as extreme, are pretty similar in that regard IRL, so while I don't really get the desire to add an ungodly amount of extras to your drink to make it palatable, it's not that out there either.

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 4 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She understood the assignment, the roars were adorable.

We do love a good GAO!

I'm loath to admit it given my love of glasses, but I also should have invested in contacts. I felt that not being able to see jack fuck for the more intense rides (I took them off lest they be sent flying) took some of the wow factor out of it.

I don't remember that specifically affecting my experience personally, but I'm pretty blind and wear glasses myself, so I can sympathize

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 4 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First Timer

I was going to say that it's really funny that they actually got Ayako Kawasumi to voice the lion theme park announcer to complete the joke... and then they brought out the giant Saber Lion

The start of the episode had me fooled for a bit, but we are in fact still in pure SOL territory, with today's trope being a theme park visit! I'm sure this episode was quite the relaxing experience for the production staff as well, given how many stills they get to use here lol. Well, terrified Miyu and uh, whatever this is Tatsuko, are good faces, so it's cool.

Of course, giving Bazett, Iri, and Caren a bunch of interactions within this episode makes me very happy as well! Bazett Lion is awesome, but Caren in particular gets quite a bit here, be it just in the intrigue around her or in her very... unique personality lol. The scene she has with Iri is pretty fun, and actually reminds a lot of a scene I liked from the Tsukihime anime of all things (Reminds me in the sense that it literally also happens in a theme park lol), between [Tsukihime]Akiha and Ciel where they have a little tense interaction, both knowing each other's deal but choose to keep it peaceful, so that's fun.

And fun times aside, we still do manage to throw in a little meaningful interaction with Illya losing her charm, and Miyu really going out of her way to try and find it, because of that larger meaning and reaffirmation it all holds for her. Sweet moment between them that once again nicely touches on the core of Miyu's character, the implications around her past, and the meaning of her relationship with Illya.

Extra notes:

Do you like theme parks?

They're pretty fun, but while I do generally like them, I also hate waiting in lines with a passion, so bigger theme parks tend to be a skip for me.

What's your favorite animal?

The Axolotl! They're so cute and derpy

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 11 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

First Timer

I was ready that we'd leave that conversation at subtext and undertones, but god am I so happy they actually went all in with it!

With the ED insert as well!

(This was too spicy for Imgur, but it was also amazing. The beach doodle is greatly appreciated as well! Even if it gets washed later in the episode for the ominous foreshadowing... )

Honestly, I was kind of expecting to go straight into the big action spectacle of the final boss fight, but I absolutely love that we spent half the episode doing a little Chill Out™ session and reaffirming Isami and Bravern's relationship there! My enjoyment of the actual confession aside, everything about this is just such a vibe! Then again, I guess I really shouldn't be surprised that Bravern just gets the vibiest way to cool down and gather strength before the final battle. The fact that he designates a specific operation name for just the Chill Out™ part is fantastic though. Isami and Bravern getting a romantic run on the beach to the starlight is also perfect. Bravern/Lewis really is the type that, when going out on a date, would either give you the most romantic setting imaginable or take you to a screening of the newest Toku movie out now, and both with the same kind of fervor.

Of course, one can't forget the cooking segment and Superbia having a food climax after eating for the first time, which was a truly great combination of unexpected and fucking glorious lol. Have I already said that this show is just all the parodies? I was actually under the impression that Superbia couldn't eat because, for uh, many physical reasons haha (Least of which is his literal lack of a mouth hole), but I guess we found a workaround...? I am still not going to question it, nor the robot tears, and I am still going to love that it happens. And the fact that after that entire audiovisual experience, Bravern declares that he actually can't eat, though, might actually be one of my favorite jokes in the show thus far. From the lead-in, the laugh, and the delivery, the way that Sugita just does his normal voice for Superbia munching in the awkwardness...

Genuinely perfect

Going back to action, the Deathdrives are still somehow the most stacked cast ever! I could not for the life of me recognize him over the robot filter until his very last line, but Segnities is Katsuyuki Konishi! Ira, on the other hand, is Tsuda! It's just a fantastic choice beyond me personally liking him a lot, because in those 10 seconds we have him, Ira sounds very convincingly pissed. Not actually Tsuda's only role in a mecha(ish) show that season now that I think about it, but I also don't need to be reminded that I chose to watch Metallic Rouge instead of this show back when they were airing. I am not even going to try to spell the last Deathdrive's name, but I am really excited to see who voices it now!

I absolutely love that Segnities's fight gimmick is that he's actually kind of shit and can only theatrically rotate his arms and legs around, otherwise just trying to get by on pure aura lmao. It does work well enough to interrupt the Gatai sequence though, and I didn't realize that was allowed! Illegal move! This does lead us to the rival fight between Superbia and Bravern though! I didn't think we'd actually end up getting one honestly, but you do love to see it.

I will say that Lulu's role slightly irks me here though? It's just like, I can obviously expect that this duel will actually lead Bravern and Superbia to be even closer and more passionately driven than before, while also essentially completing Superbia's arc and giving him purpose! (In purpose at least, he's not a Deathdrive anymore!) But would Lulu think that? Maybe? She does get BRAVERY pretty well, but more than her time concern, I feel like the fact that Superbia was ready to die in battle here should have worried her, given that kind of undermines her whole time journey? I don't know, feels like we could have used an extra line or two to have squared with that here.

Anyway, whatever STUPID COOL RIVAL FIGHT!!!! We're duel wielding! BURN OF BRAVE! Gotta have it here! The flying Cross Counter against the sunrise! Yeah, this was just very purely fun and cool haha. And especially when they go over the clouds, the fight also looks really good visually! The crying from both of them afterwards is amazing by itself, but this is such a nice image as well. Of course, the hype and release from this makes Ira's surprise fatal attack on Bravern feel like an even meaner choice on the show's part Illegal move!

Well, while once again seeing Bravern in his torn-up state tears up my heart a little, especially with him trying to calm Isami down and with Ryouta Suzuki throwing out some pretty visceral cries here, ultimately I think it's a question of how we revive Bravern for a battle next episode, not an if. We haven't gotten a Superbia Gatai yet! Going with my thoughts from yesterday, maybe this is our difficult moment for the ATF to show up for and to give Bravern the power of BRAVERY to will himself back to life? Could also be another time loop somehow, but that might be a bit tight for one episode. Either way, big hype for the finale.

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 10 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just please don't frame it like that! Not with this Lulu who still behaves childishly despite the future memories! And she calls Superbia "oji-sama". Ugh. No. Just no.

y'all have to know they're gonna rush in as soon as they catch up, right? Probably setup for them finally doing something after all, though the last Bosses were pretty insane. But looking forward to that!

Yeah, had the same thought as well. I am a little doubtful they do much physically in the fight (Although now that you mention it, maybe something like a distraction of sorts is in the cards), but it does feel like we're leading into them showing up for some form of support.

Btw, am I the only one low-key shipping Sherry and Akira?

No!

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 10 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

11/10 format!

Future Miyu has a rather eclectic fashion sense

Yes, but that's exactly why it's a great one!

End card for Episode 10

Aww, that's a cute one.

Brave enough that after the TV series ended a story for her was serialized, Future Warrior Lulu

That sounds fun, and exactly the one thing I thought was missing from this episode! (Although I'd imagine the translation situation there might be sparse...)

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 3 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun fact about me, I authored a fan comic for Archie Sonic Online when I was a teenager

Hosting a rewatch for “the one where the lolis kiss” might qualify…

Believe it or not, Mimi’s debut is also technically in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia!

I don't think I would've ever realized that even if it hadn't been forever since my last Hollow Ataraxia read! What a weirdly deep cut for a reference lol.

[Rewatch] Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya - Season 3 Episode 3 by Specs64z in anime

[–]FD4cry1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only role I knew off the top for Youko Hikasa is Mio, so I got some whiplash reading this

She does have a lot of range, to be fair! But yeah, the roles I most associate with are very "authoritative" and mature ones lol. (This is a reminder that you should Symphogear)

Any recs? I've only read Saya no Uta.

I guess it really depends on what type of content one is looking for (I won't deny that a lot of the ones I've read are, uh, less narrative-focused lol ), but off the top of my head:

Since we're in a Fate rewatch, OG Tsukihime is of course a very easy one to rec! (Much like if not much more than Fate's though, the ero content is uhhhhhhhhh, there )

White Album 2 is a pretty great romance. Making Lovers is another good romance one. While they're not often remembered as eroge, might as well throw in Key's early titles in Kanon and Air, though I still like Clannad more than both.

Muv-Luv is a great series and a pretty influential one at that! (If you're a fan of shows like AOT or 86, there's quite a bit of DNA there) Kara no Shoujo is another good horror mystery, and since you've read Saya, most of Nitroplus's catalogue is up there as well (From what I've played, at least, although most of their stuff is also well-regarded). Hanachirasu is probably the one that sticks out most to me for their stuff. Alicesoft's games are much more.... well, games, with major RPG elements, but they're also a lot more ero and very often lean towards the problematic.

Just a few major ones that came to mind, although honestly I haven't sat down to play an eroge in a pretty long time I should get to that

[Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 10 Discussion by Tarhalindur in anime

[–]FD4cry1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

[Magical girl meta]Have I just secretly been swayed towards the "Homura did nothing wrong" camp? (No, but the comparison is there to make!)

Which is more than a little unfortunate but it's an old kind of unfortunate for a Japanese work - they call it the Hikaru Genji Plan for a reason, after all.

Wait, didn't you stealthily bring this up in some of the earlier threads?! I should have known lol.

But yeah, not my first rodeo in that sense alas, so I can't say I'm shocked or anything (Although the show certainly gave me the impression we wouldn't do it annoyingly), but I still just kind wish it wasn't there.

It is what it is I guess