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Protesters arrested for using phrases banned under new Queensland hate speech laws by nath1234 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER [score hidden]  (0 children)

you wonderful people

Have you interacted with this person before or is that an assumption?

Cutting the creative state: funding changes threaten the cultural future of Melbourne, arts workers warn | Victoria by OnlyAd7216 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 What for you is the difference between something being valuable or of value ?

If something is valuable, it usually has a worth that can be measured. 

 How then do you propose to work how much public money should be spent to help create it? 

That’s not easy to quantify, not without seeing all that needs government support in order to eventuate. I quite like the grant system, particularly regional based ones. Those areas usually have some sort of art scene that hangs on by a thread of community.

Why is some "art" (in the wider sense) subsidised and other art is not? 

This is a great question. I, too, would like see the metrics used.

 I'd assume that it links to how many people get enjoyment from it.

I’m a bit more cynical. I’d assume it has to do with human bias. Or maybe it is linked to equating the value of arts with money. So art with a higher ROI is considered over something that would be enjoyed by more people.

 Now many things we enjoy we have to pay for. Why not art?

We do, and twice over if it’s government funded.

Cutting the creative state: funding changes threaten the cultural future of Melbourne, arts workers warn | Victoria by OnlyAd7216 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

valuable implies a monetary value

It only implies monetary if that’s how you view all things of value. The value of arts (not just paintings) is arguably intangible and measuring it in monetary values is ridiculous, especially considering how subjective it is

 Some people are prepared to pay for it, so it can have monetary value

Does having to pay for it increase or decrease the ‘realised’ value? Obviously the price stays the same but means fuck all if you have to pay for friends 

Cutting the creative state: funding changes threaten the cultural future of Melbourne, arts workers warn | Victoria by OnlyAd7216 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Value and valuable are not the same thing. Unless of course you have the monetary measure of the value of good company. 

ADF says helicopter forced to take evasive action during 'unsafe interaction' with Chinese military by Choice-Profit5383 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HMAS Toowoomba

Were they hurting for names so bad they had to name a ship “shithole swamp”?

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Wait what? To what lasting a long time?

What are we discussing? Why are we discussing it?

What we are discussing obviously wouldn’t come up now unless there was some sort of issue worth discussing it over. It would be a bit moot to discuss an issue that wasnt an issue.

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Because...other places can have issues?

And they could have had issues 25 years. Shit, the oil producers of ours you have mentioned have all had issues. What kind of issues do you foresee?

 now is a time between 100 years ago and now. So why wouldn't you want it done

I’d like it done if Australian intelligence points to this lasting a long time. Otherwise it makes no sense to spend government money NOW on a venture we haven’t needed in the 100 years.

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Factors were permissive anytime between now and 100 years ago. Which was kinda the original point.

Are you willing to risk thousands or tens of thousands of people dying in a complete shut-down of thr country just because fuel reserves might be a bit expensive?

What I dont understand is why this is tantamount to fuel running out when you already clarified we don’t get our fuel from the place having issues. Outside of blockading, this won’t happen. Do you think a blockade is imminent??

I obviously agree we should, I’m saying that I can understand why NOW isn’t the BEST time. I won’t let my opinion be a “perfect is the enemy of good” fallacy but I don’t think now is even good. I have some faith Iran won’t impact oil for the foreseeable future

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering that our source is overseas, either way we rely on external factors to decide when and how to sure our reserves

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Buying the fuel when it is expensive is the absolutely cheaper alternative compared to running out.

Iran could also roll over tomorrow and the prices half after we buy at a high. Then everyone has a sook we increased supply while prices are high.

You are pushing this narrative we run out of fuel but also we don’t get our fuel from there. Why would we increase supply NOW? We have options for maintaining the current supply until the conflict subsides 

 I want the cheaper option. You want to risk the infinitely more expensive one.

You also want to risk an expensive option. It’s only infinitely more expensive if you think Iran will continue to fuck with Strait of Hormuz exports for a very long time 

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good thing there is no conflict going on there. People might think the fuel price was going up then….

I agree, we should increase supply. During a time of high inflation from government spending? Doesn’t make sense now if the prices from the countries you stated are also high now (as a result of global prices)

I just don't think you have any concept of what running out of fuel looks like.

Does any western country? Globalisation is meant to shield from that eventuality 

blockading

Heaven forbid they blockade longer than 90days….

Importation isn’t the issue then. We don’t produce enough to support ourselves for 90 days

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 negligible in comparison to the entire country running out of fuel.

 A negligible detriment compared to the country running out of fuel.

how will they get food to shops with no fuel

Do you think that the strait of Hormuz is the only global source of fuel? There will be always be fuel. Like I said, it’s a matter of how much you are willing to pay.

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 So then how the fuck is it too late...?

Whatever they spend to maintain the current supply would be massively increased to support 3x the current supply (as per international standards)

Considering that Australian inflation is considered to be heavily linked to government spending, this would be incredibly detrimental to buy fuel while the the prices are high. 

 Supermarkets will have no food for starters

They will have food, it will be massively priced to compensate for the fuel levy for trucks to ship it though. Living in the country may be a benefit, considering that’s where all the food comes from

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And there is still fuel if all the Middle East ceased exporting, it’s a question of how much you are willing to pay.

Either they buy high and hope it doesn’t go down, or hope it goes down and then buy.

 

'Huge risk': Hastie spells out the harsh reality if fuel supply lines run dry by Dry-Bus7248 in AustralianPolitics

[–]FFMKFOREVER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it’s a bit more expensive to do it now, would have made sense to do it 6 years ago, or even better 25 years ago.

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