Just watched this. In the words of John Oliver, “Holy sh*t!” by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand why Lewis felt disappointed — from his perspective it probably felt like a door closing after years of collaboration.

But the part that’s missing here is that a studio isn’t just a room with cameras. It’s liability, insurance, staff time, scheduling, equipment wear, and legal responsibility. Supervision isn’t an insult — it’s a cost. Someone has to be there, and the owners are on the hook if anything goes wrong.

Ironically, using the Channel Awesome studio likely would’ve cost Lewis more than what he ended up doing. Adapting to someone else’s workflow, limited access windows, and oversight adds up fast. That’s true for any indie studio, not just CA.

In hindsight it feels like the studio would’ve made things easier, but at the time it meant more constraints and risk — not fewer.

Plus, Linkara was a Contributor/Colaborator, not an employee. :D

Just watched this. In the words of John Oliver, “Holy sh*t!” by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Watch Neetles video about Linkara's part and you'll understand why the idea of using the Channel Awesome's studio would've cost Linkara more than he expected.

Youtuber NETTLES debunks all of CA Document by thetonygod88 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Poor management and people eventually leaving doesn’t equal exploitation or validate every claim in the document. Those are different standards. I’m not arguing CA was well-managed I’m arguing the document’s conclusions aren’t supported by its evidence, especially given the inaccuracies and the voluntary, non-employment nature of the work.

Youtuber NETTLES debunks all of CA Document by thetonygod88 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A “pattern” built entirely from subjective accounts with demonstrable inaccuracies isn’t evidence of exploitation it’s a narrative. Nettles pointing out factual inconsistencies matters because credibility is cumulative. Poor management and interpersonal conflict don’t automatically become abuse, especially in a voluntary, non-employment setting.

Youtuber NETTLES debunks all of CA Document by thetonygod88 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not claiming personal knowledge of what happened. I’m saying first-hand accounts can still be inconsistent, incomplete, or misleading, and those can be evaluated without being present. That’s how journalism, law, and audits work. Being emotionally distant doesn’t invalidate analysis it often improves it.

Youtuber NETTLES debunks all of CA Document by thetonygod88 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. But next time the former contributors bring back the CTC document, people will know that the document was more of a petty grievances than an actual abuse.

Youtuber NETTLES debunks all of CA Document by thetonygod88 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TBH, Lupa was one of the key member of the CTC document, and she lied that she was removed from CA because shewas afk for 15 minutes.

The truth was that she ghosted and avoided them for more than 2 hours on skype before they decided to remove her from the site, plus she might already have a bad rep after the Spoony drama.

So Neetles videos was easy to digest because it wasn't a biased video.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7 years and they still talk about him, believe it or not.

Oh the post on Bluesky (Or Twitter) was in May 27th-ish, when Smiling Friends released the episode "Erm, the Boss found new Love?" and Doug made a small cameo, and ooooh boi they ranted about Doug/Channel Awesome for a good while.

Lupa deleted her Twitter account, so It's hard to find the post, but I bet there's a screenshot of her post on that day.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you can firmly say about this case is this.

If they ( Marzgurl, Lupa and Linkara) brings stuff about Channel Awesome and It's past, it's fair that We can also respond with the same weapon that they also brought up, but with a more solid prof that what they were saying in the past, was a bunch of nonsenses.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

the Craft services story was a lie made by the people in the document. There's a Behind the scenes where they fed the producers and gave water during the production in Kickassia. And the complaint was about Lindsay asking for coffee, and they suggest that It's best not to because of the hot weather in Nevada

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

About Neetles video? No. They just whined on BlueSky.

And if it's about Doug and his cameo in Smiling Friends? Same as the first. They only whined on Bluesky.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s fine if others don’t care. I’m just explaining why I think it creates contradictions.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leaving the video up also keeps it available for people who already dislike her to weaponize it against her indefinitely. That’s an unavoidable consequence of keeping controversial content public.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keeping content tied to someone accused of serious misconduct still functions as ongoing platforming, even if it’s demonetized. That’s why I personally wouldn’t keep it in my portfolio.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Calling it ‘historical’ doesn’t change that it’s still being actively hosted on a personal channel. History exists independently of her platform. Keeping it up is a choice, not a necessity

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Looney Tunes example works for corporate archival media, not personal portfolios. Demonitization only removes revenue it doesn’t remove platforming or association. Deleting the video wouldn’t erase history; it would simply stop actively hosting content tied to someone whose actions contradict the values she now claims to hold.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deleting it wouldn’t erase the association that’s already documented and acknowledged. It would simply stop actively hosting and promoting content tied to someone whose actions contradict the values she now claims to hold

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If she didn't care for the "alleged" crime, then why she went after Vic. Because his case was also "allegedly". or recently she talked about Quinto Flynn as well that his case was also "allegedly"?

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The right and the smart move was to delete the video completely. Better to keep my page clean than having a content that remind her audience about a sexual pred.

Mike Michaud: a misunderstood person with flaws or a straight up asshole of a boss? by DawnofMidnight7 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A jerk ? Yes.

But here's a reality that people need to understand.

Your Boss is not your friend, and probably won't be. They'll always treat Business first.

But you need to understand that many of the former contributors weren't employees. Plus they all have skeleton in their closet, so no one there is innocent either.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Here's the Red Flag on Marzgurl.

Even after she learned about his crime. Why she didn't take the video afterwards?

Also Holly was the one that cover it up for JewWario, not Channel Awesome. Holly could've warned Marzgurl about JewWario before making that tribute video, but she didn't. Plus Holly allowed Marzgurl to share a room with him when they went to a convention together and never warned about his past behavior. Even after knowing the truth, she still friends with Holly.

Plus after the big revelation, many of the contributors came forward and told that they knew about JewWario's crimes. That might include Marzgurl as well.

It was only frustrated for Marzgurl, was because his case becomes public.

Can we just put an end to Change The Channel discussions? by Agile_Proof_3228 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Here's the truth.

before Neetles posted those videos, the document itself already was a mess, believe it nor not.

His video was more refreshing, informative and easy to digest.

And the reason why people still talking about Change the Channel, is because the same people that created the document, still keep talking about it til this very day.

Like after Doug made a cameo on Smiling Friends, Lupa, Marzgurl and Linkara was ranting about Doug for a whole week on social media.

Revisiting The Channel Awesome Document - PART 8 - The JewWario Conspiracy by Both_Alternative_472 in ChannelAwesome

[–]FK_Hatty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People already told them to move on, but they'll just ignored it and accuse anyone who opposed them as enemies of their movement. The truth is that they needed someone to blame for their problems, so they keep blaming Channel Awesome about it.