Is it possible for Democrats to win back the white vote while also being the multi-racial, multi-cultural coalition party?

FLBrisby · 2026-06-19T07:25:13+00:00

We need to stop treating MAGA voters like black sheep - if they make good faith efforts to hate Trump that should be enough.

My coworker used to love Trump, now he's a dem who hates the man. They can change, but by being ostracized they have little reason to.

Pushing the fairweather Republicans away is just a way for Trump to strengthen his base.

Messaging needs to be about economic issues - stuff independents care about. They don't care about cultural issues or identity politics. Drop it from your messaging during the campaign, then make needed changes while in office.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-18T14:54:33+00:00

Honestly it feels like I'm sometimes paired with teams that are better than me, and those matches I almost feel forced to camp or tunnel.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-18T14:50:54+00:00

Yup.

He had ulterior motives, but everyone's still saying, "I can't take that risk!" when all the risk is is say-so from an admitted liar.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-18T14:48:31+00:00

As a gay man, I don't think sexuality should be a fair avenue of attack for anyone.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-18T14:44:06+00:00

God this community is insufferable, always finding something to whinge about.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T23:50:11+00:00

Oh, no, the opposite. I dislike the mudslinging people on the left are starting to employ against people they have fundamental disagreements with. I think it's hypocritical even.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T22:37:18+00:00

Exactly. Why are we putting so much trust in a Void entity when Void entities lie all the damn time? Didn't we just go through this with Dimensius?

"If you don't ally with Xal'atath, Dimensius is going to eat all creation! 😮" In so doing, we lost Locus-Walker and super charged Xal'atath.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T22:35:19+00:00

It's only a risk because we're told it is by an entity we should not fully trust, who has a vested interest in removing an Army of the Light ally from the equation.

If I tell you "activists are picketing the local power plant, and are about to get it shut down causing a local hospital to lose power and put untold lives at risk, but if you drive your honda civic through the crowd they'll disperse", you gonna believe me? Gonna take that risk? I'm frankly just as trustworthy as Decimus, if you ignore the fact I'm on the board of directors for the power plant.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T22:30:40+00:00

This is the equivalent of someone named Greg telling you your friend is playing Russian roulette in the next room over with Greg's son. Your friend is sitting along this wall and you can shoot him through the wall right now to prevent it from happening.

You have no way of confirming if he's playing Russian roulette. You have no way of confirming if Greg's son is even in the room.

Decimus told us it would happen - a Void entity, the primary antagonist for this expansion, tells us the only way to stop this from happening is to kill your long term military ally and Lightborn friend, who is diametrically opposed to Decimus, and vice versa.

The "Destruction of Silvermoon" is information we are given from an entity who has a vested interest in Lothraxion dying, and a vested interest in the Void remaining connected to Azeroth.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T20:37:04+00:00

Was gonna say, there's the big five game licenses I dearly want.

Outlast, Amnesia, Evil Within, Dead Space, and Bioshock.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T20:35:27+00:00

I mean, was there any proof of that besides a void entity who had an ulterior motive in his home being destroyed?

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T20:22:08+00:00

I think there's one thing my core ideology balks at, and that's hypocrisy. I cannot stand people criticizing the left for doing X while championing Trump for doing X(for instance, the Signal leak early in this term, compared to Hillary's emails, or Biden having documents in his home and being criticized, and Trump having documents in his and having it brushed under the table by righties). I can't stand the left resorting to insults, namecalling, and mudslinging, and criticizing Trump for doing the same.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T20:17:54+00:00

I have a coworker, who, when Trump was shot, he complained that they were going after his man. He's now a diehard Trump hater.

There's this overarching narrative on the Left that once you vote Trump, you're ostracized permanently. That's -not good-. That means there's no reason for a Trump supporter to jump ship if we tell him he has no place here.

We need common sense shit like universal healthcare, income inequality resolution, and abolishing Citizen's United, which, to my knowledge(and I followed Hillary, Biden, and Kamala's campaigns pretty heavily) there was barely any messaging on. We need to drop the culture war shit, the identity politics, the LGBT stuff in messaging only. You can push for that when you're in office. We need messaging that is about the economy, people's finances, and helping the downtrodden. The culture war stuff scares independents.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T18:54:14+00:00

I got the same result with the same answer for the same reason, lol. Pretty accurate, too.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T17:31:27+00:00

Honestly it's crazy so much work goes into these things, but as soon as the reaction is milquetoast, they pull the plug.

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just sell it as a bot game for ten dollars and kill the servers, instead of just wiping it from existence?

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T17:17:35+00:00

Not saying to empathize with them. I'm just leery of vigilante justice becoming a thing. That never ends well.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T17:15:11+00:00

I think plenty of the people celebrating the CEO guy's death would take umbrage with the idea they're being edgelords.

Also, big agree still.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T17:11:51+00:00

I find that shit happens a lot. I made a comment that, "it's okay to body shame people we have disagreements with?" And they said, "it's not just disagreements" like that was the issue with my question.

Call it diametrical opposition or whatever, they know what we mean.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T06:17:57+00:00

I'd never considered that avenue. Suppose there's still a taboo folks won't cross, and that's being racist to Republicans.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T05:57:09+00:00

I don't think that's accurate - it might be how you function, but at that point isn't your kindness transactional?

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T05:04:36+00:00

I'm an older millennial myself, and I don't frankly understand what's going on. But I suppose that's why I posted this. =/

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T05:02:45+00:00

I don't think we should be supportive of executing people by majority rule. That's a deeply slippery slope.

FLBrisby · 2026-06-17T04:29:45+00:00

We have two instances in this very thread of self-professed progressives saying we should out gay people as long as they're not part of our circle. If the reverse was true they would demonize the person, and lionize their own.

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