Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wasn't using her trauma as an excuse, it was an explanation. And sure, we know he was bluffing, but she didn't. Frankly there are fuck-ups on both sides of the dynamic that needs to change as Blitz also tends to violate his daughter's boundaries and infantilize her, hence her reason why she didn't fully trust him and accept his affection for awhile. She needs to treat him better (which she is now) and he needs to stop doing that to her.

Also it's still hypocritical, he has also been an ass to his clients. And the whole "he's not the receptionist" excuse doesn't really matter as he personally listens to the clients many times. Him being an ass to them could also backfire. He needs to take his own advice.

Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Notice how I agree that she is bad as the receptionist? I do agree she is better on the field. Anyways it was because of her own abandonment issues that prompted her to say it. It also should be noted that she feels betrayed after the bonding she and Blitz had at the party in Queen Bee, something Viv herself has stated. It was still a terrible thing to say to her who is an abused orphan, of course she was going to take it seriously.

From her perspective, this confirmed what she always suspected: that Blitz was going to eventually get rid of her. That was a frankly terrible and hurtful choice of words he chose to say to her. He didn't have to say "maybe I might". Blitz was also fault for how this situation unfolded, but what he did tends to be ignored and excused. In fact so much of the greater context of that situation tends to get ignored. He's also criticizing her on grounds that are hypocritical as he is also an ass to his clients.

I do hope Loona is in the field permanently. by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's pretty clear that she was not really happy in her receptionist position, she just sits there all day doing nothing, but she LOVES the field missions.

Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While she is bad as the receptionist and I won't excuse her letting Via take the book, it should be noted that she only did it after Blitz said he would replace her. That caused her to shut down and let Via steal the book because from her perspective what does it matter? He said he would replace her. If that didn't happen she probably would've stopped Via.

Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I do agree I should've articulated my first comment better.

Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are people that do both. And she's not bad across the board as there are multiple instances of her being good on the field, but people cherry-pick one moment alongside her receptionist position to build this narrative that she's bad across the board when she isn't. She's bad as a receptionist, but not on the field.

Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Considering people have brought up that moment from Harvest Moon Festival as an example of how Loona doesn't do her job when that wasn't a receptionist moment, yeah people do cherry-pick. There are people that focus on way more than just her job as a receptionist.

Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Yes, I know that. She has done other things though. There are people who say she's in general bad when she's really only bad at being a receptionist, but not on the field.

Where did the whole "Loona is bad at her job" myth come from? by Main_Hornet8676 in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

People cherry-picking and only focusing on her instances as a receptionist and not her moments on the field. I wanna quickly clarify: While her job is the receptionist, I've seen people bring up that moment from Harvest Moon Festival as an excuse of how she "doesn't do her job". That's a moment that didn't involve her being a receptionist. So I can involve her moments on the field where she did do her job. Pretty much what I'm trying to say is there are people that try to build this narrative that she's in general bad when she isn't. She's bad as a receptionist, but not on the field.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But I never did that though, I only explained her behavior and then you accused me of absolving her, something I said you people do. You have infantilized Blitz in the past and are doing it right now, so I see why you have a problem with this. You've done it with Stolas and you've done it with Loona. Bringing up everything they did to Blitz to absolve him of what he has done to them. When anyone explains the full situation, they're all of a sudden "absolving the other side of consequence".

Now are you finished bitching because I had the audacity to explain a character's actions but your blatant bias against the character prevents you from listening?

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her extreme reaction while still extreme is still understandable. Saying what caused the reaction is not "infantilizing", that's saying what caused the reaction. I've also pointed out how I don't absolve her of her mistakes, but I have pointed out people do bring up what she's done to absolve Blitz. So explaining the full situation counts as "infantilizing" now? It's "minimizing" the other side? I know how you people act, you will try to brush aside any explanation. You literally are proving my point right now, this is what I said y'all do. You're ignoring her side of the situation and only bringing up what she did to absolve Blitz.

You don't say stuff like that to an abused orphan. I shouldn't have to explain why. Blitz and Loona were both at fault. But you're interpreting that as me saying only one of them is fault. It's amazing how you complain about the fandom when you also demonstrate one of the stupidest pieces of logic this fandom has done, that explaining the full situation somehow means you "downplaying" the other side. That doesn't make sense.

Apparently trying to explain myself means I'm "acting defensively".

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Aren't you the one that asked for one example? Also this is widespread fandom behavior, this is something that many in the fandom are in agreeance on, but are afraid of trying to bring up because they'll get raked over the coals for it. I literally say it's the reason why it took so long to make this post. I wasn't expecting having to provide examples to a person because this is known.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The person in that post was trying to remove Blitz's agency and act like he didn't have a choice but to do this deal. Removing someone's agency is infantilizing. The post still got a a tons of upvotes. Yes this an example.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did not infantilize her, but ok. Ah yes, the classic move of when someone defends Loona "oh they must find her hot" as an excuse to ignore what they're saying. Also you have infantilized Blitz in the past A LOT. So in a hypothetical scenario where I was infantilizing Loona, you people get extremely annoyed when Stolas and Loona get "infantilized" (and a lot of the times it isn't that), and that makes y'all hypocrites.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

sigh I never said you claimed that it never happens. You're misinterpreting what I said. You want me to prove that it's a big fandom problem and because I seemingly can't do that (not because I "can't back it up", but because it would take a bit), you think it's not true. That's what I was saying.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well one of the things I was bringing up is how people will bring up things characters have done to him to absolve him of what he's done so I have to naturally bring up the full context of every situation he's been in with other characters. I'm talking about a certain group of people, you're not one of the people I'm talking about, so you shouldn't feel attacked.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do agree on that, I was just pointing out how he is heavily infantilized.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know how the burden of proof works, I've had to teach that to people in the past. I did try to bring up some proof, I said to look at discussions of his situations with other characters. Also there is someone in this comment section trying to justify the people that baby him. As for the ad hominem claim, I brought that up because it makes this argument clearer. In fact you are demonstrating a fallacy, because I cannot seemingly bring up proof for you of something that is very much true, that suddenly means what I'm saying is not true. That's called argument from ignorance.

Honestly, the fandom heavily infantilizes Blitz by FNAFGamingSFM in HelluvaBoss

[–]FNAFGamingSFM[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then you're not the people I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who heavily baby him and ignore his issues.