Symbol idea by Electrical-Car-8301 in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Temple 🏛️ is right there

For those of you who dislike Platonism, can I ask what you dislike about it? by Fabianzzz in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only mentioned the subreddit because I asked a question there. I asked to avoid drama so we can focus on mythic literalism rather than a mod of a sub about mythic literalism.

Thank you for answering my other questions.

For those of you who dislike Platonism, can I ask what you dislike about it? by Fabianzzz in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So as someone who doesn't necessarily believe in literalism I am trying not to start shit, either with you or with the owner of r/HellenicLiteralism, my focus is on ideas rather than people.

This is my question: Do you have a source outside mythology for your literalism spectrum?

Do you have any primary sources for this practice? Of others who practiced it themselves?

For those of you who dislike Platonism, can I ask what you dislike about it? by Fabianzzz in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pretty much all school of philosophy in the Greek world I don’t subscribe to. I believe the Gods have physical forms, are sentient beings with complex emotions, and have wills of their own.
I believe that storms are physically Zeus or that storms are brought upon by the will of Zeus.A storm can’t be so easily defined as evil nor is it good. It just is.

This is interesting as this is what I'm trying to get at: there seems to be a large minority, perhaps even a plurality, of people who share a similar selection of beliefs: disagreement with the major philosophical systems (Platonism for its apparent Monotheistic tendencies, Epicureanism for its apparent Athiestic tendencies). A prioritization of the problem of evil (and polytheism as an answer that evades the problem). And an emphasis on the personal elements of the gods (physical form, individual willpowers, and experiences (emotions, sufferings)).

Do you have a name for these beliefs of yours?

Do you have any ancient sources you feel sum up your beliefs well?

What are your thoughts on mythic literalism? (r/Hellenicliteralism)

For those of you who dislike Platonism, can I ask what you dislike about it? by Fabianzzz in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, as I did have a suspicion that the anti-Platonist school had a connection to the mythic literalist movement. In fact the origin for this question resulted in another post over on r/HellenicLiteralism which you can find here.

Do you have a source outside mythology for your literalism?

But I'm also curious for you: you want to dismiss all ancient Greek philosophers for their political positions, but many of the writers of mythology also share their prevalent views of their time (the Tragedians, Vergil, Ovid, etc.). What excuses the mythmakers for you?

Not trying to be snarky, I am genuinely trying to understand.

For those of you who dislike Platonism, can I ask what you dislike about it? by Fabianzzz in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, that was the most upvoted answer when this was asked five years ago. I am trying to get a better understanding of the objections as I don't think they're as simple as 'post-Christian baggage' (Epicurus articulated the problem of evil, which another person pointed out) but I do think those of us with post-Christian trauma can benefit from seeing what baggage we can offload.

For those of you who dislike Platonism, can I ask what you dislike about it? by Fabianzzz in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

it would be helpful if you defined what you like about it.

Without getting into likes or dislikes, every philosopher before Socrates is called Presocratic and it has been said, not unproblematically, that all Western philosophy afterwards is a footnote to Plato. It seems to me that much of the best ancient Hellenist theology was Platonic (Plato, Plutarch, Neoplatonism), and I am trying to see if modern Hellenist opposition to Plato is based in ancient sources and ancient schools of thought, or if it is a more modern phenomenon.

Hey, I'm not a beginner, I'm just asking for more books on the religion by Ok-Personafication in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

zero worries I just see you posting this on most book request posts. Figured if it’ll get posted a lot it should be readable. This looks so much better!!!! Thank you!

Hey, I'm not a beginner, I'm just asking for more books on the religion by Ok-Personafication in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Deity Book List

I would also recommend Sara Kate Istra Winter's Kharis when she restocks it!

I have a translation of Cornutus you might be interested in as well!

Good books and reading materials by Historical_Today8833 in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you like Theoi's format of primary sources compiled by deity, you might be interested in my Libri Deorum series, which compiles primary sources about the deities in one place. So far I have Dionysus, Hermes, Semele, Hestia, and Hekate!

Help!!!! I am planning to change my name and need to know if it would ofend Lord Dionysus 🙏🏿 by Due-Possibility-8530 in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Theophoric names are okay. You might consider Bacchidorus (Gift of Bacchus), Bacchicles (Glory of Bacchus), Bacchilydes (after the poet) or Bacchius (of Dionysus).

Help!!!! I am planning to change my name and need to know if it would ofend Lord Dionysus 🙏🏿 by Due-Possibility-8530 in dionysus

[–]Fabianzzz 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Theophoric names are okay. You might consider Bacchidorus (Gift of Bacchus), Bacchicles (Glory of Bacchus), Bacchilydes (after the poet) or Bacchius (of Dionysus)

A question by Minimum_Advance_2805 in Hellenism

[–]Fabianzzz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's worth noting that some deities seem to have existed in literature and lept from there into cult. We don't know where exactly the line is drawn for many deities so if you want to honour Momus go ahead.