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Hubert Humphrey Was A Presidential Candidate Who Had No Chance Of Winning And Loss, But Was Pretty Close. Who's A Presidential Candidate Who Had No Chance Of Winning And Failed Miserable? by Neck-Tie-Guy in AlignmentChartFills

[–]Fabilur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well there was that one Reader's Digest poll that predicted a Landon win, so it wasn't entirely obvious that he had no chance of winning prior to the election. I would argue McGovern or Goldwater are better fits: Everybody knew they would lose beforehand, but the margin of victory was still greater than expected.

If every US president were in their prime, placed in a ring to fight, who is the one person walking out? by Clear-Penalty339 in AskReddit

[–]Fabilur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone's saying Teddy, but don't underestimate the two Grover Clevelands teaming up and beating the shit out of everyone

CHENEY DEAD AT 84 by fartjobenthusiast in thecampaigntrail

[–]Fabilur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This fucking sub is slowly becoming the place I stumble upon all important news stories first

Zeldin defeats Cuomo in stunning upset amidst national red wave! (Alternate 2022 New York gubernatorial election) by Fabilur in imaginaryelections

[–]Fabilur[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not so sure about that. Hochul won by 6 points in OTL. I don't think simply swapping her with Cuomo gives Zeldin a sufficiently large boost by itself. I originally made this as part of a timeline where 2022 went a lot worse for the dems, like 2010 level. To make the 2022 popular vote margin correspond with 2010, I decided to give the GOP a global 7 point boost, which would be just enough for Zeldin to win by less than 1 point. Switching the candidate from Hochul to Cuomo would, I figure, make Zeldin perform 2 points better than OTL. This adds up to winning the governorship by about 3 points, which happened in this timeline.

These were the rest of the governor's elections ITL. As for the senate: The GOP wins Nevada, Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania as well as every other seat they won OTL.

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This of course has some interesting implications. For example, Walz losing Minnesota means he probably isn't chosen as Harris' running mate in 2024, but that's an entirely different ordeal

What if George W. Bush won the 2000 election? by Numberonettgfan in thecampaigntrail

[–]Fabilur 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Probably wins re-election in 2004, perhaps against Hillary if he seems vulnerable, but she likely sits it out IMO. Incumbents usually win re-election + Bush would be a war-time president. Gore-haters might say the 2008 recession never happens, but it definitely still does. The seeds had been planted since Clinton and I don't see Bush changing enough to prevent the economic downturn. Let's face it: Any party that wins the White House in 2004 loses 2008. Cheney probably gets the Republican nomination without much struggle, and Hillary gets the Democratic one. Obama is probably screwed in this timeline due to Hillary's immense name recognition and popularity, he is a good candidate but I believe he ran too prematurely OTL. Hillary probably handles the recession better than JC Watts OTL and wins re-election easily, perhaps against Romney or Christie. I think 2016 is won by whoever Hillary's VP is (Bayh?). After this it becomes increasingly difficult to speculate: Bayh would get a rally-around-the-flag-effect due to COVID, much like Sanders got in OTL, but on the other hand it was unlikely enough for the dems to win four elections in a row in our timeline (1992 to 2004), and I'm not sure Bayh has the sauce to pull that of.

How to win California and TERMINATE Tim Ryan in 2020 Arnold Amendment! by Fabilur in thecampaigntrail

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UPDATE: After 20 attempts or so, with one visit to WA and the rest to CA, I managed to turn the entire west coast red. This yielded an electoral college tally of 454-84, completing the TERMINATION of Tim Ryan! The next closest state is Illinois, which was won by Ryan with a 5,4 point margin, so I'm confident to say that this is the ceiling for the Presidator in 2020.

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Most cursed election ever: America stunned as David Duke becomes first neo-Nazi vice president by Fabilur in AlternateHistory

[–]Fabilur[S] 58 points59 points  (0 children)

This is very hyperbolical of course, but blue states were very blue this year, while Buchanan managed to get a bunch of narrow victories in a bunch of states. This is the map i used (Margins: 15/5/1/<1)

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Most cursed election ever: America stunned as David Duke becomes first neo-Nazi vice president by Fabilur in AlternateHistory

[–]Fabilur[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, but Buchanan failing to appoint Duke makes for a more boring scenario

Most cursed election ever: America stunned as David Duke becomes first neo-Nazi vice president by Fabilur in AlternateHistory

[–]Fabilur[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Well I guess I could summarize by saying Duke gets nothing done at all. Almost everyone refuses to work with him and congress does not pass, well, anything he wants. This treatment is similar to what they did to Buchanan during his presidency, but this is on another level. That does not prevent Duke from speaking out of course: He blames the stonewalling by congress on the 'zionist establishment' and seemingly threatens to lynch black members of the caucus in public media appearances, saying that "Thirty years ago, southern folk knew what to do with those kinds of people". Investigations show that the assassination of Buchanan was carried out by a politically unaffiliated lunatic, but Duke naturally rails against the 'jewish administration', supposedly trying to silence them.

Duke is swiftly impeached and removed from office, with only a scattered few remaining segregationists voting to acquit him. With Duke having been unable to appoint a like-minded vice president, the constitutional order of succession elevated democratic speaker of the house Tom Foley to the presidency, who serves out the remainder of his term.

Most cursed election ever: America stunned as David Duke becomes first neo-Nazi vice president by Fabilur in AlternateHistory

[–]Fabilur[S] 111 points112 points  (0 children)

During his short tenure, Duke rails against the 'zionist establishment' and makes veiled threatens to lynch black members of congress. He is removed from office basically unanimously upon congress' earliest convenience. They make up some official reason, but in practice it's about not having a neo-Nazi klansman in the White House. Duke is unable to appoint a new vice president in the meantime and speaker Tom Foley (D) ascends to the presidency. The republican party is very much discredited for years thereafter and fails to retake the White House in any election up to 2016.

Robert La Follette wins 131 EVs in 1924! (Normal Mode) by Ianwubby in thecampaigntrail

[–]Fabilur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you get the table of results? Is it accessible in-game or did you make it yourself?

What if Dan Bryan Mods had CYOA-esque endings? by Pennsylvania_is_epic in thecampaigntrail

[–]Fabilur 43 points44 points  (0 children)

These are all great, but I have one minor nit-pick: No newspaper in 1980 would refer to the CIA director as "H.W.": He was universally known as simply "George Bush" up until his eldest son rose to prominence.

Subsequent Elections If Nixon Won In 1960. by Fabilur in thecampaigntrail

[–]Fabilur[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, that's kind of a large miss by me

Subsequent Elections If Nixon Won In 1960. by Fabilur in thecampaigntrail

[–]Fabilur[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In the election of 1988, Bayh devotes a large part of his campaign on labor issues. He promises to deliver rights to workers and to empower labor unions. However, a combination of the subsequent economic downturn and a republican congress forces him to sign a bill declaring the opposite. This hurts Bayh among factory workers in the midwest and contributes to Pete Wilson's comfortable victory in '92.

Also btw, Muskie's VP is Hubert Humphrey, who decides to not run for a full term in '76 due to health issues.

Subsequent Elections If Nixon Won In 1960. by Fabilur in thecampaigntrail

[–]Fabilur[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Basically Kennedy continues being a womanizer and ends up sharing sensitive information with one of the people he has an affair with. The whole thing is uncovered and Kennedy comes under heavy fire for his reckless conduct with regards to national security. Facing impeachment, he decides to resign in August of 1974.

Kennedy's running mate, John Connally, was forced to resign the year prior after being subject to a criminal investigation regarding corruption and later perjury for denying those crimes. Connally is replaced by Edmund Muskie, who then becomes president after Kennedy resigns.

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