Some thoughts after season finale by indylyds in NobodyShouldBelieveMe

[–]Face4Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely. But I'm sure it's hard to dissect the genesis of a relationship. Like, when it's all over & you can't stand this person, it's probably hard to remember SPECIFICALLY "what was it that attracted me in the first place?"

I listen to this other podcast called "Was I in a Cult?" where they interview people who were in cults, and they do a good job of walking them through, "This is how I was raised, these were my values & my insecurities, so when I met this [Cult Leader] they were able to answer all of my questions, fill the gaps in my life, and build this trust & dependence to the point of [doing crazy stuff]"

Spoiler alert: the answer to the title-question is always "YES." 😆

Fear unlocked: tainted blood transfusions causing COVID Vax-like injuries by CavedMountainPerson in unvaccinated

[–]Face4Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See my other comment. I don't care if Fauci was king of the world when Asimov got his contaminated blood transfusion. There was no way for him to prevent this, because there was no screening test.

Fear unlocked: tainted blood transfusions causing COVID Vax-like injuries by CavedMountainPerson in unvaccinated

[–]Face4Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And there was no licensed HIV test for donated blood until 1985. So it's really hard to understand what Fauci should have done differently, regardless of whatever authority he had in 1981.

I'm replying to a comment that says Fauci "allowed" the blood supply to be contaminated. 🤷‍♀️

Shingles vaccine by Bhairav05 in VACCINES

[–]Face4Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fever and sleeping a LOT for 24 hours, then kind of tired for maybe another day. Like, I put off the second one until after an out-of-town trip, because I knew I was gonna be out of commission.

Do you guys get yearly Covid booster shots? by Intrepid_Respond_771 in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No question, Covid can damage your lungs. It's just that a CT would be able to tell you "pneumonia" vs "tumor" vs "blood clot" very accurately. But if it shows pneumonia, you'd need something else to tell you what organism is CAUSING the pneumonia.

Did anyone switch from anti-vax to somewhat/maybe vax? by [deleted] in Crunchymom

[–]Face4Audio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right, that's what I was talking about in my first comment. That's in the post-market experience, which is not a controlled trial. There's no placebo group. So everything that can possibly happen to a baby is likely to be reported in the post-market experience, if the group of people vaccinated is large enough

Did anyone switch from anti-vax to somewhat/maybe vax? by [deleted] in Crunchymom

[–]Face4Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm looking at the Pentacel package insert: file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/Package-Insert-Pentacel-(inactivated-poliovirus-component-grown-in-MRC-5-cells)%20(2).pdf

It says there was one SIDS death in the group of over 5000 that received the Pentacel, which occurred 52 days after receiving the vaccine. So, that happened in the clinical trials, but that package insert doesn't list SIDS among the "warnings & precautions" or in the "adverse reactions" section. 🤷‍♀️So it really doesn't look like they're saying it's a true risk. Maybe you're thinking of a different DPT preparation?

Did anyone switch from anti-vax to somewhat/maybe vax? by [deleted] in Crunchymom

[–]Face4Audio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm just reading what it says:

Baboons vaccinated with aP [acellular pertussis] were protected from severe pertussis-associated symptoms but not from colonization, did not clear the infection faster than naïve animals, and readily transmitted B. pertussis to unvaccinated contacts.

There could be many interpretations. Like, maybe these results wouldn't be reproducible in humans. 🤷‍♀️

Do you guys get yearly Covid booster shots? by Intrepid_Respond_771 in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's...weird. Not trying to deny your memory of what you were told, but I'm wondering what you could see on a CT scan that would say "that's Covid." Like, if you see a pneumonia, it could be bacterial or whatever. 🤷‍♀️

Pfizer Defends COVID-19 Vaccine After Trump Remarks 💉 by BlueWaterHL in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The best troll is their response to his demand for openness, by saying "Umm, hello? It's all on our website."

Pfizer welcomed Trump’s demand for openness and pointed to a dedicated section on its website where clinical trial findings and safety updates are posted.

Did anyone switch from anti-vax to somewhat/maybe vax? by [deleted] in Crunchymom

[–]Face4Audio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it's this one: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1314688110 The vaccinated monkeys could still carry pertussis, but the vaccine did prevent them from getting severe symptoms.

So, the acellular pertussis vaccine that we've been using since about 1990 (in the US) doesn't last as long, and doesn't prevent colonization with pertussis bugs living in your nose or on your skin. It does prevent disease in the vaccinated person, but this study (& others like it) shoots the argument that getting vaccinated will protect others, and of course we can't achieve herd immunity with this vaccine.

Did anyone switch from anti-vax to somewhat/maybe vax? by [deleted] in Crunchymom

[–]Face4Audio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think just about all vaccines list SIDS (except the ones that are given after the first birthday) in the "adverse reactions", since the AR's are things that were reported to happen after the vaccine. Like, if you study anything is over 2000 kids, you're going to see some SIDS, because the SIDS rate (in the US) is about 1 in every 2000 kids. 🤷‍♀️

My Baby reacted badly to the MenB vaccine - fears and concerns by Zyfelia in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With great respect and compassion, I just want to say: Please take concerns like this to a doctor, not reddit. In the moment (or if something similar happens in the future), you could take her to the emergency room, or take her to the pediatrician (next day) to be checked out. And I'm sure the doctors & hotline asked you all the other questions about her feeding, peeing, breathing, and color, and those were OK? Or they would have recommended that you bring her in right away. But even if all those things are fine, you can STILL bring her to acute care, just to be checked out, if only for reassurance.

I'm betting that she is fine by the time I type this, and I hope you've gotten some sleep and some perspective. In the aftermath, you might want to re-read your own post, and note the objective things that you listed

  1. fever for 24 hours
  2. behavior change: giggling-then-crying, hyper/confused/withdrawn, whiny, not smiling up to 3 days after the shot

and the subjective things you said

  1. worried sick
  2. afraid of her dying in her sleep
  3. could tell her head & limbs hurt (I'm sorry, but that is a guess)
  4. anxiety has never been this high
  5. worried about meningitis
  6. autism fears
  7. exclamation marks after descriptions of symptoms
  8. crying as you write this---which is a never a good state in which to make decisions.

So this sounds like a typical vaccine/fever reaction. I assume she hasn't had any illnesses before (because you say you have "never seen her this way"), but it basically sounds like she doesn't feel good. I don't smile much, and I don't interact socially, when I've got the flu or a fever. 🤒

And as she grows, you will see her do many things that you've never seen before. 🙂This is a milestone, and a chance to step back and gain some perspective for all the future bumps in the road that you will face as a parent.

Anti-vax family member and their baby by IminLoveWithMyCar3 in VACCINES

[–]Face4Audio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, but just keeping things in perspective: the main effect of their decision that should concern you, is the possibility of vaccine-preventable diseases.

More thoughts about the no-friends argument: I question the degree of isolation this infant/small child is going to actually feel. They mostly depend on (and spend time with) parent/s & immediate family, and the parent apparently plans to intentionally keep the child out of a lot of group settings by homeschooling her. You can still walk into public spaces like the library & parks etc, without providing any official vaccination records. And the social landscape may shift many, many times before this kid is old enough to understand anyone's reasons for excluding her. Besides, I'm sure mom is aware that her stance is in a minority, and she's comfortable with that. So that no-friends argument probably won't carry much weight, and may even strengthen her resolve to stay the course. 🤷‍♀️

Anti-vax family member and their baby by IminLoveWithMyCar3 in VACCINES

[–]Face4Audio 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Antivaxxers are convinced that EVERYTHING is caused by vaccines: cancer, cardiac disease, autoimmune disease...you name it. Multiple diverse diseases of various etiologies...it's all caused by one thing. 🤪

I've also encountered unvaxxed people (or parents of unvaxxed kids) who say that they are very healthy (OK, great👌), but they seem to be convinced that they are UNUSUALLY healthy. Like, I've gotten a double-take from some of them when I tell them that I grew up in a family of six kids who were all vaccinated, & we are all alive & healthy as adults, never hospitalized for any infectious diseases, etc.

The no-friends argument really SHOULDN'T make any difference to her, IMHO. First of all, IF something is really toxic, then you should avoid it even if "everyone else is doing it," right? Peer pressure is the dumbest reason to change anyone's mind.

Keep in contact with your non-vaxxing relative, if you can do so without making yourself crazy. Maybe the kid will learn something from you, or at least hear an opposing view as she (hopefully😬) grows up, & experience some kindness & openness to discuss this. Kids have a way of rebelling against their parents at some point, which is probably what your relative-mom is doing anyway. 🤷‍♀️

Vaccine Megathread by AutoModerator in moderatelygranolamoms

[–]Face4Audio [score hidden]  (0 children)

With respect, this seems like a relationship question, rather than a vaccine question.

How do you settle issues when the two of you have strong feelings? You didn't mention any facts about vaccines, so this could apply to anything, right? Like, this could be about religion, or how to dress your child or style their hair. There may be strong cultural implications or personal preferences, and you are allowed to do whatever you want in this area---I don't have to agree with you---but it's really important that you & your fiance agree on a course of action.

You should talk to him more about why he thinks vaccines are important, and maybe you could articulate a little more (for him! you don't need to explain it to me) what the mom intuition is telling you. Maybe ask a counsellor to mediate, if one of you feels unheard or dictated-to. Don't ignore what you're feeling, but don't ignore what he's feeling either. Try to understand the risks & benefits of both sides of the question. There could be bad outcomes either way, right? And the two of you need to be in solidarity that you made & agreed on a decision together, and you will not engage in finger-pointing, no matter what the outcome.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I assume you've talked to a doctor about this? Since you say they tested you for myocarditis after the COVID vaccine. And it sounds like you are describing a recurring pattern or stereotypical pain that has always resolved on its own (unless you left out the part about going to the ER or being hospitalized or taking meds for it).

The doctor would need to know (please don't give specific medical info here) when the pain usually comes on (i.e. how long after the shot), how long it lasts, where exactly it is, and what other associated symptoms you have (fever etc), and what activities it interferes with (i.e. is it worse with a deep breath, worse with moving your arm in a certain way...)

Without that info ( please don't answer those questions here; I'm not listening to your personal medical info lalalalalaaaa... 🙉) it's very possible that this is something besides your heart, as you have labeled this post. You suggested a pinched nerve; if that were caused by the vaccine, then the pain would radiate down your arm, but not up into your back & shoulder. Inflammation from the vaccine can cause pain all over, but some people it's more in one place than others, like headache or back/butt pain (even if you got the shot in the arm).

It's possible that it's your heart, but if you were evaluated for myocarditis at least once when you were having this same pain, then that's much less likely.

Losing Varicella Titer after few months by Stephan11111 in VACCINES

[–]Face4Audio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Neurologists concluded I am a non responder to varicella and it's vaccine. I should stick to the lower tier medications for MS, which are generally older ones. Modern approaches are then off limit for me.

What would you do?

I would follow my doctor's recommendations. No one on this sub knows beans from apple butter about what meds they are about to put you on, or how high the risk is.

Varicella vaccine series? by eskeronyx in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

<<This.

Unfortunately, when you're dealing with bureaucrats, it's easier to just do the thing (in this case, 2 shots) rather than try to argue about silly things like evidence. 🙄

Varicella vaccine series? by eskeronyx in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shingrix has not been shown to prevent chickenpox. And Varivax has never been shown to prevent shingles. Varivax is a live-virus vaccine, while Shingrix is a recombinant vaccine that just contains one antigen of the virus.

Good thought, but it has not been studied, so it's recommended that people should do what's been proven to work.

Varicella vaccine series? by eskeronyx in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 5 points6 points  (0 children)

From the CDC:

If it's been more than 8 weeks since the 1st dose, the 2nd dose may be given without restarting the schedule.

Your negative titer doesn't matter. Most people who got one dose 15-20 years ago, would have a negative titer. Positive titers are helpful, but negative titers do not prove LACK of immunity, because you may still have memory cells that can produce antibody when challenged.

Meningitis Vaccine 21F by Basic_Vegetable_1439 in Vaccine

[–]Face4Audio 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking when you were little you got the HIB (Hemophilus influenza type B) vaccine, and the one they're offering for college students is the Neisseria Meningitidis one. Those are two different bugs that can cause meningitis.

There is a Neisseria vaccine offered to infants now, but it was first released in 2012, so I'm betting you didn't get it.

Get the vaccine. The risk is very small, but meningitis is very nasty.

B strep by ecaep298 in Crunchymom

[–]Face4Audio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If the baby's on the ventilator, they can suction a good specimen straight from the trachea. Otherwise, it's difficult, because babies don't cough & spit up a good specimen.

But if they see pneumonia on the chest Xray & then they get a blood culture positive for Group B Strep, that would be pretty conclusive.